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IRS Wants Me to Pay $4,730 a Month. What should I tell them?

 
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IRS Wants Me to Pay $4,730 a Month. What should I tell them?
In my attempts to make things right in my life by being on the up and up with my Shepherds (AKA the US Federal Government), I have been paying my current taxes and also have filed all my previous missed tax returns.

Fast forward to now. A short little chubby IRS agent lady came to my door saying she was just in the neighborhood which I know was a big fat lie. In any event, she has been on my wife and I like white on rice and wants my wife and I to pay the IRS 50% of our income which is $4,730 a Month to pay our back taxes.

I have no problem making payments, but basically this bitch wants my family and I to suffer and live like in poverty until they are paid. Of course I AM not liking her, her proposal or any of it and this goes along the lines of Socialism where our country is at now.

Punish success (making money and a successful business) and reward laziness and dumbness (no job and live on welfare).

You see, if I was not a success, they wouldn't come after me and in addition, I would not have to pay shit in back taxes because I would be collecting welfare and unemployment. What this tells me is that this is the future of our world and that I better get used to this shit. But in the same breathe, I AM not going to allow the lazy or unintelligent just sit on their ass and collect a check.

With Obama, taxes are going up even more and then we have health care on top of it.

In any event, what would you do if you were me and the IRS wanted 50% of your income to pay our back taxes? Is there a better way to deal with this other than bankruptcy?
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11/14/2012 10:05 AM
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What type and how old are these taxes?
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Re: IRS Wants Me to Pay $4,730 a Month. What should I tell them?
In my attempts to make things right in my life by being on the up and up with my Shepherds (AKA the US Federal Government), I have been paying my current taxes and also have filed all my previous missed tax returns.

Fast forward to now. A short little chubby IRS agent lady came to my door saying she was just in the neighborhood which I know was a big fat lie. In any event, she has been on my wife and I like white on rice and wants my wife and I to pay the IRS 50% of our income which is $4,730 a Month to pay our back taxes.

I have no problem making payments, but basically this bitch wants my family and I to suffer and live like in poverty until they are paid. Of course I AM not liking her, her proposal or any of it and this goes along the lines of Socialism where our country is at now.

Punish success (making money and a successful business) and reward laziness and dumbness (no job and live on welfare).

You see, if I was not a success, they wouldn't come after me and in addition, I would not have to pay shit in back taxes because I would be collecting welfare and unemployment. What this tells me is that this is the future of our world and that I better get used to this shit. But in the same breathe, I AM not going to allow the lazy or unintelligent just sit on their ass and collect a check.

With Obama, taxes are going up even more and then we have health care on top of it.

In any event, what would you do if you were me and the IRS wanted 50% of your income to pay our back taxes? Is there a better way to deal with this other than bankruptcy?
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Get a good lawyer that works with the IRS to reduce what you owe, they are out there. Don't let the Magic Munchkin intimidate you.
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Re: IRS Wants Me to Pay $4,730 a Month. What should I tell them?
Just personal from 2002,2003, 2004, 2007, 2008 and 2009. No business or employee taxes owed.
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Moe

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11/14/2012 10:08 AM
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Re: IRS Wants Me to Pay $4,730 a Month. What should I tell them?
Get them to agree in writing to a 50% docking of YOUR pay, but not your wife's, for a period that slightly exceeds the payment period they propose. So, 50% of of your pay for, say, 20 years.

Then, quit your job.

Problem solved.
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Why pay taxes if ben bernanke can print the money the Gov needs...

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11/14/2012 10:12 AM
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you need to get a lawyer.
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Just personal from 2002,2003, 2004, 2007, 2008 and 2009. No business or employee taxes owed.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


and you only recently filed? I forget the exact timeline BUT I think it's two years AFTER filing, taxes that are over two or three years old become eligible for discharge in Bankruptcy....

not saying you want to go that route but just remember, it is an option available to you....
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11/14/2012 10:13 AM
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Re: IRS Wants Me to Pay $4,730 a Month. What should I tell them?
check with those companies that settle for pennies on the dollar, or see a tax attorney. my sister had her attorney do a one time settlement for freakin pennies on her back taxes. seems like it was around 1/10 of what she owed. but state wouldn't budge.
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11/14/2012 10:17 AM
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Re: IRS Wants Me to Pay $4,730 a Month. What should I tell them?
another thing....you should STOP TALKING to them....whatever you are going to do, you need to rely on yourself and professionals advice that YOU obtain.

The lady you are talking to is not your friend..she has no intention, no matter how kind she may sound, in doing anything other than maximizing their return. Her SOLE purpose is in getting you to disclose information to HER, the debt collector.

Stay away from the "pennies on the dollar" scams in settling your IRS claims.

Depending on where you live a good tax ATTORNEY will resolve this for about $5 or $6k in fees......


When I say "Resolve" I mean work out a real agreement that benefits you the most.


The problem it sounds as if you face though is income. If they are demanding that much it sounds as if you are a high wage earner...not a good place to be in with them in dealing with back taxes.....good luck

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Admit it, this was just a thread for you to boast about how much you earn. Be honest. lame
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11/14/2012 10:22 AM
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so, you withheld your taxes for years, and now you're claiming that somehow you are "a successful businessman"?? you're a tax cheat. they could be tossing your ass in jail, and selling off ALL your assets. going bankrupt won't do you any good, the court will toss it. "i owe uncle sam a ton and want to dodge having to pay it back" isn't a just cause for bankruptcy. i know a cat who worked 3 jobs for 20 years to pay off uncle to avoid being jailed over taxes. 7 day weeks, minimum 12 hour days. he was actually grateful, because he kept his house, and didnt end up in a fed prison. understand, im not trying to abuse you, im just trying to show you the reality of your situation. you willingly, knowingly, and premeditatedly committed a felony. no ands, ifs, or buts about it. sure, the payment plan is draconian. would you prefer a felony conviction? no more firearms, no more vote, as well as completely losing that standard of living you value so much. parole after 35% of the sentence, having to ask permission of a PO to get a drivers license. absolute no questions asked banning from holding all kinds of professional licenses. try to negotiate a lesser payment, but rest assured you're gonna be coughing up 33% AT LEAST. that's how it works. but even if you get no reduction, it's better than being incarcerated, and STILL OWING THE DOUGH.
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11/14/2012 10:23 AM

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You see, if I was not a success...
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


I dunno, Moe.

Seems like there is some valid controversy about just how much of a "success" you and your business ventures may be:

[link to loan-safenlhc.blogspot.com]

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You see, if I was not a success...
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


I dunno, Moe.

Seems like there is some valid controversy about just how much of a "success" you and your business ventures may be:

[link to loan-safenlhc.blogspot.com]

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what.the.fuck.
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so, you withheld your taxes for years, and now you're claiming that somehow you are "a successful businessman"?? you're a tax cheat. they could be tossing your ass in jail, and selling off ALL your assets. going bankrupt won't do you any good, the court will toss it. "i owe uncle sam a ton and want to dodge having to pay it back" isn't a just cause for bankruptcy. i know a cat who worked 3 jobs for 20 years to pay off uncle to avoid being jailed over taxes. 7 day weeks, minimum 12 hour days. he was actually grateful, because he kept his house, and didnt end up in a fed prison. understand, im not trying to abuse you, im just trying to show you the reality of your situation. you willingly, knowingly, and premeditatedly committed a felony. no ands, ifs, or buts about it. sure, the payment plan is draconian. would you prefer a felony conviction? no more firearms, no more vote, as well as completely losing that standard of living you value so much. parole after 35% of the sentence, having to ask permission of a PO to get a drivers license. absolute no questions asked banning from holding all kinds of professional licenses. try to negotiate a lesser payment, but rest assured you're gonna be coughing up 33% AT LEAST. that's how it works. but even if you get no reduction, it's better than being incarcerated, and STILL OWING THE DOUGH.
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Get over yourself..you don't go to jail for not paying taxes.....only for willfully failing to file...he has filed...nobody is going to jail.

and you are wrong, taxes, even FED taxes are in fact, are eligible for discharge in bankruptcy, it all depends on how old they are....
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11/14/2012 10:27 AM

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Ignore her.

Call the IRS collections deprtment yourself and voluntarily set up a $100 per month payment plan.

They are obliged by law to take your offer and cease collection activities as long as you keep up the payments.
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Re: IRS Wants Me to Pay $4,730 a Month. What should I tell them?
Just personal from 2002,2003, 2004, 2007, 2008 and 2009. No business or employee taxes owed.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV

I just said no and stopped paying my monthly installment agreement(which i should have never started) in 2004, by the time the garnished my wages, almost lost job over) i only had to pay about 1/3 what i owed, they could only collect from 7 years back.

or
only pay 2007, 2008, 2009

or make a one time cash offer. about25% of total (2007, 2008, 2009) that is working for people
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"If I would have know I could have redeemed lawful money I would have done so since my very first paycheck" (only works once)
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Re: IRS Wants Me to Pay $4,730 a Month. What should I tell them?
Get them to agree in writing to a 50% docking of YOUR pay, but not your wife's, for a period that slightly exceeds the payment period they propose. So, 50% of of your pay for, say, 20 years.

Then, quit your job.

Problem solved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27636366


Well, the problem is I live in California which is a community state and even though we were not married until 2009, her income in paying the IRS back is included in all my previous years as well. In addition, we own our own business and they are sending letters to us, the owners to dock our own pay. wtf
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11/14/2012 10:39 AM

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Why pay taxes if ben bernanke can print the money the Gov needs...

ben4574
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Then we would not be slaves and would be true free men then. Ummm, something tells me that this plan is not in TPTB agenda.
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Moe

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11/14/2012 10:41 AM

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Just personal from 2002,2003, 2004, 2007, 2008 and 2009. No business or employee taxes owed.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


and you only recently filed? I forget the exact timeline BUT I think it's two years AFTER filing, taxes that are over two or three years old become eligible for discharge in Bankruptcy....

not saying you want to go that route but just remember, it is an option available to you....
 Quoting: Truthserum


Yes, this is true, but I do not qualify for chapter 7 and only a chapter 13 which it would have to be repaid in a similar fashion. Chapter 13 may be a plan because in the end, I can clean up my credit which has affected my leasing, renting and buying power ion all that I do.
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don't talk to her

get a tax attorney

do not deal with them by yourself
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^^^THIS^^^

When you have to fight the pigs you've got to hire a pig.
Do not deal with them by yourself!
Hard tell'in not know'in
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one thing to ponder is that no one will hire you while you owe the taxes, not even walmart or mcdonolds, it comes up on a bg search. so don't lose your job
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You see, if I was not a success...
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


I dunno, Moe.

Seems like there is some valid controversy about just how much of a "success" you and your business ventures may be:

[link to loan-safenlhc.blogspot.com]

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what.the.fuck.
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Yep.

Scroll all the way on down through the link.

All the pictures. All the links.

Ever wonder how a con man, pathological liar, narcissist, or master manipulator operates?

Check it all out.

Thanks to the OP coming here and telling us what a "success" he is, GLPers have an extremely valuable opportunity to watch how this sort of operator games and scams.
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don't talk to her

get a tax attorney

do not deal with them by yourself
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


My experience with lawyers over the last 10 years has been a joke to say the least. I understand what you are saying and have talked to one, but I will talk to more.
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Tell the IRS that you are a black illegal alien single mom with six baby daddy's and you have turned lesbian
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Re: IRS Wants Me to Pay $4,730 a Month. What should I tell them?
Get them to agree in writing to a 50% docking of YOUR pay, but not your wife's, for a period that slightly exceeds the payment period they propose. So, 50% of of your pay for, say, 20 years.

Then, quit your job.

Problem solved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27636366


Well, the problem is I live in California which is a community state and even though we were not married until 2009, her income in paying the IRS back is included in all my previous years as well. In addition, we own our own business and they are sending letters to us, the owners to dock our own pay. wtf
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


i got a ton of letters, they dont mean anything. just a bunch of threats, dont make contact at all, until the day you make a cash offer, all they care about is cash. i agree you should get a tax lawyer. I went through all this stuff/foreclosure/bankruptcy/taxes already , it will come to a end, you will be starting over,life will go one
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don't talk to her

get a tax attorney

do not deal with them by yourself
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ohyeah

Remember, the IRS has no law to restrain it, and no goal but to bankrupt you. They are the foreign enemy agents of an usurping political cult.
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one thing is close all your back accounts if possible
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You see, if I was not a success...
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


I dunno, Moe.

Seems like there is some valid controversy about just how much of a "success" you and your business ventures may be:

[link to loan-safenlhc.blogspot.com]

scratching
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Here is the deal with these 'ANONYMOUS' postings and slanderous posting about me on the internet. Yes, I have went to jail and prison for growing and selling marijuana and also a battery case that WAS NOT MY WIFE and all these pictures etc are lies and bogus.

Toughy w/braces

These 'ANONYMOUS' postings with lies and untruths have been posted by loan modification scams companies and mortgage criminals who I have personally went after over the last 5 years while running my forum at www.LoanSafe.org/forum in my attempts to help protect struggling homeowners from becoming victims of these scams.

In doing so, I have become a target of these scammers who post anonymously in weak attempts to destroy my business or reputation. Also, you will NOT find 1 Better Business Bureau complaint, police or actual real complaints about my business anywhere other than a few 'ANONYMOUS' postings on 'ANONYMOUS' websites. The facts are anyone can say whatever they want and people will either choose to believe it or not. In the end, I don't care because the people who believe 'ANONYMOUS' postings from 'ANONYMOUS' websites are ignorant humans who I do not wish to associate with or do business with.

Fat Toughy
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Tell the IRS that you are a black illegal alien single mom with six baby daddy's and you have turned lesbian
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