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‘KIDS WITHOUT GOD’: ATHEIST ACTIVISTS LAUNCH SHOCKING WEB SITE TO CONVERT KIDS & TEENS INTO NON-BELIEVERS

 
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So if god doesn't exist and atheism is the true way to go, then we should all just fall into anarchy and lawlessness right? I mean if there is no morals, no right or wrong, good or bad, and survival of the fittest is the truth, why shouldn't I destroy and manipulate to get what I want?
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Respect for fellow man. Do you need someone to tell you it's wrong to take someones life? Do you need someone to tell you not to rape? Do you need someone to tell you not to steal?

Don't hurt other people, it's pretty simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53777226


Why should they respect their fellow MAN?

Parents do not have to teach children to be bad, lie, cheat
hurt other's that is something that comes NATURAL to the CARNAL MIND...


You teach Children RIGHT FROM WRONG and we know what is right from WRONG because GOD gave us those commandments thousands of years ago from the:

NOAHIDE LAWS

to the MOSAIC LAWS

to the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST..



However today you are seeing a World that rejects GOD and has spiraled into LAWLESSNESS which comes from MAN's DEPRAVED AND CARNAL MIND..

WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF SAVAGES...


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The other key note for anyone actually paying attention here. The atheists are going so far out of their way to derail this conversation, it appears most have not even bothered to look at the web site. They are just here to push their points. Soo many accountless cowards spewing there religion...atheism.
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So if god doesn't exist and atheism is the true way to go, then we should all just fall into anarchy and lawlessness right? I mean if there is no morals, no right or wrong, good or bad, and survival of the fittest is the truth, why shouldn't I destroy and manipulate to get what I want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42666539


If that's how you feel, then you probably need to be locked up.

I don't wrong others because I don't want them doing it to me, not because some book told me to. It's about being a decent human being. Community based animals, humans generally involved (though we can adapt to other forms), need each other to help ensure our well being and survival of the race.


Why would any of that even matter? Well I don't really feel like going to jump off a bridge or something and I'm sure you'll have trouble finding others that would. It'd be more trouble than continuing my life. Other animals don't do it (except in extreme cases like us), so it's unlikely we need to either.


Plus, show me people that actually follow the teachings of christ, then maybe I'll believe that it's doing some good.
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My point is atheist's are promoting a survival of the fittest society, that is fact according to Darwinism. So if that's true than we should indeed do what we need to become "the king of the jungle" right? The fact that you don't want to do that and would rather respect each other is telling of what your true beliefs and feelings really are. So I ask why do you put your beliefs in a system that promotes lawlessness and anarchy?
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Darwin is not an atheists god. He doesn't instruct people on how to behave. Survival of the fittest was never a suggestion of how to live, it was an explanation of the survival and advancement of species. The strongest will survive times of strife better than the weak.
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The atheist activist community in America has taken an increasingly-active role in trying to convince citizens with doubts about their faith to fully evolve into non-believers and to “come out,” publicly proclaiming their anti-theism. Think of it as a form of secular evangelism.

Already, non-believers have attempted to reach clergy who are in doubt through The Clergy Project. Additionally, there’s a humanist church service each week in Tulsa, Oklahoma (and these are only two examples). Now, in addition to reaching adults, atheist activists have their eyes set on converting kids and teens.

The American Humanist Association (AHA), a group that seeks to create “a progressive society where being good without gods” is widely accepted, has launched a new outreach web site called KidsWithoutGod.com.

According to a press release put out by the organization, the project’s key intention is to attract “humanist, atheist and other non-traditionally religious kids” so that they can find information that is not colored by “supernaturalism.”

[link to www.theblaze.com]

Luke 17:2

It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin.

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Tying a millstone around someone's neck and dumping them in the ocean is pretty god damn violent. That sounds like mafia shit. I don't want to associate with someone like that.
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ATHEISM IS A LIFE ON A ROAD TO NO-WHERE AND A SOUL DOOMED TO DESTRUCTION...
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ah..leftist humor..Yes..critical thinking like brutally defending the life of a child molester, rapist and murderer from capital punishment, yet having parades to celebrate the slaughter of 54 million American aborted babies.
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Not sure what any of that has to do with anything. You think just because someone isn't christian, they support that? That's exactly why non-christians don't like christians.

I'm not 'leftist' either. You're a fucking moron with your assumptions.
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Well, my apologies. Not too many conservatives are rabidly opposed to Christianity like the lefty loons are. Maybe you are just a centrist loon, implying that anybody that is Christian lacks critical thinking skills. Has it ever dawned on you that the universe contains mysteries that your little pea brain isn't physically capable of comprehending?
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I never said that I feel that way about christians. But when they assume the world is going to fall apart when their view is waning in society, I start to feel a little sick...
I consider that the universe is full of unexplained mystery every day. You're assuming I don't because I don't follow this one doctrine? This is ego-centrism in its purest form. Just because I don't see it the way you do, doesn't mean I don't see it. I'm more of an agnostic than an atheist.
There may be a God out there... not sure. Nothing gives me reason to think there is at this time, and if there is, I personally don't think it'd be the one from the bible.
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In my opinion, you are entitled to feel that way. I feel sorry you feel that way and hope one day you will see the light. But that is YOUR CHOICE. Perhaps if you didn't predicate atheism as the path to critical thinking, and imply that Being Christian negated the ability to think critically, we wouldn't have had this discussion. It actually sounded a bit hateful, and one of a handful of mindless sound bites that the Marxists LOVE to use.
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So if god doesn't exist and atheism is the true way to go, then we should all just fall into anarchy and lawlessness right? I mean if there is no morals, no right or wrong, good or bad, and survival of the fittest is the truth, why shouldn't I destroy and manipulate to get what I want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42666539


If that's how you feel, then you probably need to be locked up.

I don't wrong others because I don't want them doing it to me, not because some book told me to. It's about being a decent human being. Community based animals, humans generally involved (though we can adapt to other forms), need each other to help ensure our well being and survival of the race.


Why would any of that even matter? Well I don't really feel like going to jump off a bridge or something and I'm sure you'll have trouble finding others that would. It'd be more trouble than continuing my life. Other animals don't do it (except in extreme cases like us), so it's unlikely we need to either.


Plus, show me people that actually follow the teachings of christ, then maybe I'll believe that it's doing some good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53722252


My point is atheist's are promoting a survival of the fittest society, that is fact according to Darwinism. So if that's true than we should indeed do what we need to become "the king of the jungle" right? The fact that you don't want to do that and would rather respect each other is telling of what your true beliefs and feelings really are. So I ask why do you put your beliefs in a system that promotes lawlessness and anarchy?
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that isn't what survival of the fittest means....

in evolution survival of the fittest can be the underdogs that get to be the fittest. smaller can be better, if they are a better fit for the environment that would = survival of the fittest. fittest does not mean strongest or fastest.
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Survival of the fittest means doing whatever you can to ensure your or your species survival and to get atop the food-chain. I didn't say it mattered if you were big or small, just saying there would be no rules and right or wrong wouldn't exist.
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The atheist activist community in America has taken an increasingly-active role in trying to convince citizens with doubts about their faith to fully evolve into non-believers and to “come out,” publicly proclaiming their anti-theism. Think of it as a form of secular evangelism.

Already, non-believers have attempted to reach clergy who are in doubt through The Clergy Project. Additionally, there’s a humanist church service each week in Tulsa, Oklahoma (and these are only two examples). Now, in addition to reaching adults, atheist activists have their eyes set on converting kids and teens.

The American Humanist Association (AHA), a group that seeks to create “a progressive society where being good without gods” is widely accepted, has launched a new outreach web site called KidsWithoutGod.com.

According to a press release put out by the organization, the project’s key intention is to attract “humanist, atheist and other non-traditionally religious kids” so that they can find information that is not colored by “supernaturalism.”

[link to www.theblaze.com]

Luke 17:2

It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin.

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Tying a millstone around someone's neck and dumping them in the ocean is pretty god damn violent. That sounds like mafia shit. I don't want to associate with someone like that.
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GOD does not want to deal with them either, that is why you don't cause the little ones to sin...
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Respect for fellow man. Do you need someone to tell you it's wrong to take someones life? Do you need someone to tell you not to rape? Do you need someone to tell you not to steal?

Don't hurt other people, it's pretty simple.
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If it's survival of the fittest I see no reason to respect anyone but myself, and right and wrong don't exist, so someone telling me what was right or wrong wouldn't matter would it? The fact that you have a form of inner morality that tells you hurting someone is wrong should tell you something about yourself and life.
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Then you're a sick monster. Please call your local psych ward and have them pick you up.
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Well that's what atheism promotes survival of the fittest. I don't believe in it if you couldn't figure that out.
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That's not what atheism promotes. Atheism promotes NOTHING, that's the idea. We're free to of ourselves. That doesn't mean we're 'supposed' to be violent or anything. Like I said, if that's ho you feel, that's your problem. Not everyone feels that way, and I can assure you that, just as easily as a religion can make a society, atheists can come together and create one. It's as simple as 'treat others as you want to be treated'. I don't need a book to tell me that, because it's just common sense.
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Respect for fellow man. Do you need someone to tell you it's wrong to take someones life? Do you need someone to tell you not to rape? Do you need someone to tell you not to steal?

Don't hurt other people, it's pretty simple.
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If it's survival of the fittest I see no reason to respect anyone but myself, and right and wrong don't exist, so someone telling me what was right or wrong wouldn't matter would it? The fact that you have a form of inner morality that tells you hurting someone is wrong should tell you something about yourself and life.
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Then you're a sick monster. Please call your local psych ward and have them pick you up.
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Well that's what atheism promotes survival of the fittest. I don't believe in it if you couldn't figure that out.
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animals survive by working as a team (humans, dolphins, lions etc)

if they didn't, they would have much less chance at surviving alone.

especially ancient humans. with the lack of strength, speed, agility etc. we evolved to work as a team as well as become more intelligent which let us build tools (like chimps and other apes except humans kept getting smarter and smarter because our brains kept getting bigger and bigger)
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The atheist activist community in America has taken an increasingly-active role in trying to convince citizens with doubts about their faith to fully evolve into non-believers and to “come out,” publicly proclaiming their anti-theism. Think of it as a form of secular evangelism.

Already, non-believers have attempted to reach clergy who are in doubt through The Clergy Project. Additionally, there’s a humanist church service each week in Tulsa, Oklahoma (and these are only two examples). Now, in addition to reaching adults, atheist activists have their eyes set on converting kids and teens.

The American Humanist Association (AHA), a group that seeks to create “a progressive society where being good without gods” is widely accepted, has launched a new outreach web site called KidsWithoutGod.com.

According to a press release put out by the organization, the project’s key intention is to attract “humanist, atheist and other non-traditionally religious kids” so that they can find information that is not colored by “supernaturalism.”

[link to www.theblaze.com]

Luke 17:2

It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin.

 Quoting: christian


Tying a millstone around someone's neck and dumping them in the ocean is pretty god damn violent. That sounds like mafia shit. I don't want to associate with someone like that.
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GOD does not want to deal with them either, that is why you don't cause the little ones to sin...
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I think you missed the AC's point...
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So if god doesn't exist and atheism is the true way to go, then we should all just fall into anarchy and lawlessness right? I mean if there is no morals, no right or wrong, good or bad, and survival of the fittest is the truth, why shouldn't I destroy and manipulate to get what I want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42666539



Respect for fellow man. Do you need someone to tell you it's wrong to take someones life? Do you need someone to tell you not to rape? Do you need someone to tell you not to steal?

Don't hurt other people, it's pretty simple.
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Why should they respect their fellow MAN?

Parents do not have to teach children to be bad, lie, cheat
hurt other's that is something that comes NATURAL to the CARNAL MIND...


You teach Children RIGHT FROM WRONG and we know what is right from WRONG because GOD gave us those commandments thousands of years ago from the:

NOAHIDE LAWS

to the MOSAIC LAWS

to the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST..



However today you are seeing a World that rejects GOD and has spiraled into LAWLESSNESS which comes from MAN's DEPRAVED AND CARNAL MIND..

WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF SAVAGES...

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Humans are more intelligent than animals. We are capable of teaching children to behave properly without the Bible. If you use the Bible to teach your children and they believe, that's great. If you teach your children to behave properly and don't use the Bible, that's fine as well. I know plenty of people raised without religion in their home that are fine human beings.
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This is literally disturbing. Makes me feel ill that I have brought a child into this dumpster of a world. Vile and disturbed are these demons.

How could you look at your own body...the marvel that it is and not believe in some sort of Creator...you have the entire planet, solar system, galaxies, and universes to marvel at day in and day out! Wake up if you are a nonbeliever.

To be a nonbeliever it takes nothing at all...to have faith and seek the path of God takes the ultimate courage.
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I don't agree with that statement. It takes a lot more faith to be an atheist than it takes to be a Christian. Because unlike Christianity they have no evidence for what they claim.
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Neither do you.
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You're helping him make his point.
He is ADMITTING that he doesn't have evidence, which is why it takes FAITH for him to be an Atheist.

He is saying that Christians DO have perceived 'evidence' that their religion is legit, so they DO NOT HAVE TRUE FAITH.

Learn to read and understand english.
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Why the hell do they care? Geez
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So if god doesn't exist and atheism is the true way to go, then we should all just fall into anarchy and lawlessness right? I mean if there is no morals, no right or wrong, good or bad, and survival of the fittest is the truth, why shouldn't I destroy and manipulate to get what I want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42666539



Respect for fellow man. Do you need someone to tell you it's wrong to take someones life? Do you need someone to tell you not to rape? Do you need someone to tell you not to steal?

Don't hurt other people, it's pretty simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53777226


Why should they respect their fellow MAN?

Parents do not have to teach children to be bad, lie, cheat
hurt other's that is something that comes NATURAL to the CARNAL MIND...


You teach Children RIGHT FROM WRONG and we know what is right from WRONG because GOD gave us those commandments thousands of years ago from the:

NOAHIDE LAWS

to the MOSAIC LAWS

to the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST..



However today you are seeing a World that rejects GOD and has spiraled into LAWLESSNESS which comes from MAN's DEPRAVED AND CARNAL MIND..

WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF SAVAGES...

 Quoting: christian


If this is how you feel the human mind works, I'm sorry for you. I can't pray for you, but I'll do what I can.

I'm sorry, but you're simply mistaken. Morality does not come from a book.
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ATHEISM IS A LIFE ON A ROAD TO NO-WHERE AND A SOUL DOOMED TO DESTRUCTION...
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Amen, I used to be on that road. Sure did give me the ability to keep doing what I knew was not right. Almost no atheist will admit it, but they are atheist because they don't want to admit to themselves they know they could be living a better life. They are addicted to something that brings them down instead of lifting them up. So they make up this story and invest blind faith in no creator and then say the proof is: blah blah and they just say the word religion.

It's all really quite pathetic. I love these lost souls and only hope the best for you all. I can not waste anymore energy on people not even willing to help themselves. Awesome post op. The fact that it's ruffling feathers like this says a lot.

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If that's how you feel, then you probably need to be locked up.

I don't wrong others because I don't want them doing it to me, not because some book told me to. It's about being a decent human being. Community based animals, humans generally involved (though we can adapt to other forms), need each other to help ensure our well being and survival of the race.


Why would any of that even matter? Well I don't really feel like going to jump off a bridge or something and I'm sure you'll have trouble finding others that would. It'd be more trouble than continuing my life. Other animals don't do it (except in extreme cases like us), so it's unlikely we need to either.


Plus, show me people that actually follow the teachings of christ, then maybe I'll believe that it's doing some good.
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My point is atheist's are promoting a survival of the fittest society, that is fact according to Darwinism. So if that's true than we should indeed do what we need to become "the king of the jungle" right? The fact that you don't want to do that and would rather respect each other is telling of what your true beliefs and feelings really are. So I ask why do you put your beliefs in a system that promotes lawlessness and anarchy?
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that isn't what survival of the fittest means....

in evolution survival of the fittest can be the underdogs that get to be the fittest. smaller can be better, if they are a better fit for the environment that would = survival of the fittest. fittest does not mean strongest or fastest.
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Florida teen charged with murder after mother found stabbed in eye
Sharon Aydelott was found stabbed and beaten to death in her home on Christmas Eve. Her son, William Brandon Aydelott, was arrested that night and charged with murder. means doing whatever you can to ensure your or your species survival and to get atop the food-chain. I didn't say it mattered if you were big or small, just saying there would be no rules and right or wrong wouldn't exist.
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Well I am sure the people of NOAH's Day
The People of LOT's DAY- SODOM:
Were trying to be survivors of the fittest, however that does not really help you out, when Asteroids and Comets are raining down on you..

GOD determines the FATE OF ALL CREATION...

It is up to you to see if you want his survivor raft...Jesus Christ...

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Good. Children need to stop being brainwashed with fictional bullshit!
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If that's how you feel, then you probably need to be locked up.

I don't wrong others because I don't want them doing it to me, not because some book told me to. It's about being a decent human being. Community based animals, humans generally involved (though we can adapt to other forms), need each other to help ensure our well being and survival of the race.


Why would any of that even matter? Well I don't really feel like going to jump off a bridge or something and I'm sure you'll have trouble finding others that would. It'd be more trouble than continuing my life. Other animals don't do it (except in extreme cases like us), so it's unlikely we need to either.


Plus, show me people that actually follow the teachings of christ, then maybe I'll believe that it's doing some good.
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My point is atheist's are promoting a survival of the fittest society, that is fact according to Darwinism. So if that's true than we should indeed do what we need to become "the king of the jungle" right? The fact that you don't want to do that and would rather respect each other is telling of what your true beliefs and feelings really are. So I ask why do you put your beliefs in a system that promotes lawlessness and anarchy?
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that isn't what survival of the fittest means....

in evolution survival of the fittest can be the underdogs that get to be the fittest. smaller can be better, if they are a better fit for the environment that would = survival of the fittest. fittest does not mean strongest or fastest.
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Survival of the fittest means doing whatever you can to ensure your or your species survival and to get atop the food-chain. I didn't say it mattered if you were big or small, just saying there would be no rules and right or wrong wouldn't exist.
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it has nothing to do with getting to the top of the food chain...
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So if god doesn't exist and atheism is the true way to go, then we should all just fall into anarchy and lawlessness right? I mean if there is no morals, no right or wrong, good or bad, and survival of the fittest is the truth, why shouldn't I destroy and manipulate to get what I want?
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Respect for fellow man. Do you need someone to tell you it's wrong to take someones life? Do you need someone to tell you not to rape? Do you need someone to tell you not to steal?

Don't hurt other people, it's pretty simple.
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Why should they respect their fellow MAN?

Parents do not have to teach children to be bad, lie, cheat
hurt other's that is something that comes NATURAL to the CARNAL MIND...


You teach Children RIGHT FROM WRONG and we know what is right from WRONG because GOD gave us those commandments thousands of years ago from the:

NOAHIDE LAWS

to the MOSAIC LAWS

to the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST..



However today you are seeing a World that rejects GOD and has spiraled into LAWLESSNESS which comes from MAN's DEPRAVED AND CARNAL MIND..

WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF SAVAGES...

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Humans are more intelligent than animals. We are capable of teaching children to behave properly without the Bible. If you use the Bible to teach your children and they believe, that's great. If you teach your children to behave properly and don't use the Bible, that's fine as well. I know plenty of people raised without religion in their home that are fine human beings.
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to behave properly... According to who???

This fails because what one person thinks is proper, is what another person thinks is vile...

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If that's how you feel, then you probably need to be locked up.

I don't wrong others because I don't want them doing it to me, not because some book told me to. It's about being a decent human being. Community based animals, humans generally involved (though we can adapt to other forms), need each other to help ensure our well being and survival of the race.


Why would any of that even matter? Well I don't really feel like going to jump off a bridge or something and I'm sure you'll have trouble finding others that would. It'd be more trouble than continuing my life. Other animals don't do it (except in extreme cases like us), so it's unlikely we need to either.


Plus, show me people that actually follow the teachings of christ, then maybe I'll believe that it's doing some good.
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My point is atheist's are promoting a survival of the fittest society, that is fact according to Darwinism. So if that's true than we should indeed do what we need to become "the king of the jungle" right? The fact that you don't want to do that and would rather respect each other is telling of what your true beliefs and feelings really are. So I ask why do you put your beliefs in a system that promotes lawlessness and anarchy?
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that isn't what survival of the fittest means....

in evolution survival of the fittest can be the underdogs that get to be the fittest. smaller can be better, if they are a better fit for the environment that would = survival of the fittest. fittest does not mean strongest or fastest.
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Survival of the fittest means doing whatever you can to ensure your or your species survival and to get atop the food-chain. I didn't say it mattered if you were big or small, just saying there would be no rules and right or wrong wouldn't exist.
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Just think about the phrase for a second. "Survival of the fittest." That seems to me to mean that fittest will survive. I see nothing in there suggesting that it implies the fittest will rape and murder everyone they see.

If you have enough food to make it through winter, you will survive. If you don't have enough food to make it through winter, you will not survive.

That is survival of the fittest. It has nothing to do lawlessness.
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There are a lot of religious wackos out there, but God will win at the very end no doubt.
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ATHEISM IS A LIFE ON A ROAD TO NO-WHERE AND A SOUL DOOMED TO DESTRUCTION...
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Amen, I used to be on that road. Sure did give me the ability to keep doing what I knew was not right. Almost no atheist will admit it, but they are atheist because they don't want to admit to themselves they know they could be living a better life. They are addicted to something that brings them down instead of lifting them up. So they make up this story and invest blind faith in no creator and then say the proof is: then they just say the word religion.

It's all really quite pathetic. I love these lost souls and only hope the best for you all. I can not waste anymore energy on people not even willing to help themselves. Awesome post op. The fact that it's ruffling feathers like this says a lot.
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Typical arrogant & judgmental fucking Christians with all the answers about everybody else. It's their way or the highway!
"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics, a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's." ("Mark Twain in Eruption")
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So if god doesn't exist and atheism is the true way to go, then we should all just fall into anarchy and lawlessness right? I mean if there is no morals, no right or wrong, good or bad, and survival of the fittest is the truth, why shouldn't I destroy and manipulate to get what I want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42666539



Respect for fellow man. Do you need someone to tell you it's wrong to take someones life? Do you need someone to tell you not to rape? Do you need someone to tell you not to steal?

Don't hurt other people, it's pretty simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53777226


Why should they respect their fellow MAN?

Parents do not have to teach children to be bad, lie, cheat
hurt other's that is something that comes NATURAL to the CARNAL MIND...


You teach Children RIGHT FROM WRONG and we know what is right from WRONG because GOD gave us those commandments thousands of years ago from the:

NOAHIDE LAWS

to the MOSAIC LAWS

to the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST..



However today you are seeing a World that rejects GOD and has spiraled into LAWLESSNESS which comes from MAN's DEPRAVED AND CARNAL MIND..

WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF SAVAGES...

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If this is how you feel the human mind works, I'm sorry for you. I can't pray for you, but I'll do what I can.

I'm sorry, but you're simply mistaken. Morality does not come from a book.
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Where does Morality come from and how did it evolve???
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Not sure what any of that has to do with anything. You think just because someone isn't christian, they support that? That's exactly why non-christians don't like christians.

I'm not 'leftist' either. You're a fucking moron with your assumptions.
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Well, my apologies. Not too many conservatives are rabidly opposed to Christianity like the lefty loons are. Maybe you are just a centrist loon, implying that anybody that is Christian lacks critical thinking skills. Has it ever dawned on you that the universe contains mysteries that your little pea brain isn't physically capable of comprehending?
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I never said that I feel that way about christians. But when they assume the world is going to fall apart when their view is waning in society, I start to feel a little sick...
I consider that the universe is full of unexplained mystery every day. You're assuming I don't because I don't follow this one doctrine? This is ego-centrism in its purest form. Just because I don't see it the way you do, doesn't mean I don't see it. I'm more of an agnostic than an atheist.
There may be a God out there... not sure. Nothing gives me reason to think there is at this time, and if there is, I personally don't think it'd be the one from the bible.
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In my opinion, you are entitled to feel that way. I feel sorry you feel that way and hope one day you will see the light. But that is YOUR CHOICE. Perhaps if you didn't predicate atheism as the path to critical thinking, and imply that Being Christian negated the ability to think critically, we wouldn't have had this discussion. It actually sounded a bit hateful, and one of a handful of mindless sound bites that the Marxists LOVE to use.
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You missed the point of my last statement... In fact, you seem to have disregarded it entirely.

You predicated that the reduction of christian influence is destroying us. That is hateful in my opinion to everyone else ever had a different opinion from you. The only reason I made the 'critical thinking' comment is because of the nature of the prior statement, because apparently you lack it if you truly believe that you KNOW right from wrong. (hint: if anyone did, the world would be a much better place)

It's one of those mindless soundbites that I've seen repeated by so many who claimed to be christian, but spoke in a very non-christian manner.
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Respect for fellow man. Do you need someone to tell you it's wrong to take someones life? Do you need someone to tell you not to rape? Do you need someone to tell you not to steal?

Don't hurt other people, it's pretty simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53777226


Why should they respect their fellow MAN?

Parents do not have to teach children to be bad, lie, cheat
hurt other's that is something that comes NATURAL to the CARNAL MIND...


You teach Children RIGHT FROM WRONG and we know what is right from WRONG because GOD gave us those commandments thousands of years ago from the:

NOAHIDE LAWS

to the MOSAIC LAWS

to the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST..



However today you are seeing a World that rejects GOD and has spiraled into LAWLESSNESS which comes from MAN's DEPRAVED AND CARNAL MIND..

WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF SAVAGES...

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Humans are more intelligent than animals. We are capable of teaching children to behave properly without the Bible. If you use the Bible to teach your children and they believe, that's great. If you teach your children to behave properly and don't use the Bible, that's fine as well. I know plenty of people raised without religion in their home that are fine human beings.
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to behave properly... According to who???

This fails because what one person thinks is proper, is what another person thinks is vile...

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Not to hurt your fellow man. It's not that complicated. I don't need anyone to tell me it's not nice cause suffering for other people.
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ATHEISM IS A LIFE ON A ROAD TO NO-WHERE AND A SOUL DOOMED TO DESTRUCTION...
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Amen, I used to be on that road. Sure did give me the ability to keep doing what I knew was not right. Almost no atheist will admit it, but they are atheist because they don't want to admit to themselves they know they could be living a better life. They are addicted to something that brings them down instead of lifting them up. So they make up this story and invest blind faith in no creator and then say the proof is: then they just say the word religion.

It's all really quite pathetic. I love these lost souls and only hope the best for you all. I can not waste anymore energy on people not even willing to help themselves. Awesome post op. The fact that it's ruffling feathers like this says a lot.
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Typical arrogant & judgmental fucking Christians with all the answers about everybody else. It's their way or the highway!
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If you chose to see/read it that way...so be it.
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ATHEISM IS A LIFE ON A ROAD TO NO-WHERE AND A SOUL DOOMED TO DESTRUCTION...
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Amen, I used to be on that road. Sure did give me the ability to keep doing what I knew was not right. Almost no atheist will admit it, but they are atheist because they don't want to admit to themselves they know they could be living a better life. They are addicted to something that brings them down instead of lifting them up. So they make up this story and invest blind faith in no creator and then say the proof is: then they just say the word religion.

It's all really quite pathetic. I love these lost souls and only hope the best for you all. I can not waste anymore energy on people not even willing to help themselves. Awesome post op. The fact that it's ruffling feathers like this says a lot.
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Typical arrogant & judgmental fucking Christians with all the answers about everybody else. It's their way or the highway!
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No it's GOD Almighty's WAYS or the Highway to Hell...

Don't meant to be brass, but your salvation is on the line and that is eternal my friend..

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If it's survival of the fittest I see no reason to respect anyone but myself, and right and wrong don't exist, so someone telling me what was right or wrong wouldn't matter would it? The fact that you have a form of inner morality that tells you hurting someone is wrong should tell you something about yourself and life.
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Then you're a sick monster. Please call your local psych ward and have them pick you up.
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Well that's what atheism promotes survival of the fittest. I don't believe in it if you couldn't figure that out.
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That's not what atheism promotes. Atheism promotes NOTHING, that's the idea. We're free to of ourselves. That doesn't mean we're 'supposed' to be violent or anything. Like I said, if that's ho you feel, that's your problem. Not everyone feels that way, and I can assure you that, just as easily as a religion can make a society, atheists can come together and create one. It's as simple as 'treat others as you want to be treated'. I don't need a book to tell me that, because it's just common sense.
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Common sense comes from somewhere and if you believe in common sense you believe in something not nothing, just saying. Hypothetically if a person rapped or killed someone and you have a society that believes in nothing and has no right or wrong, how could you justify him/her being locked up? How can you justify any laws for that matter, you believe in nothing.
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Respect for fellow man. Do you need someone to tell you it's wrong to take someones life? Do you need someone to tell you not to rape? Do you need someone to tell you not to steal?

Don't hurt other people, it's pretty simple.
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Why should they respect their fellow MAN?

Parents do not have to teach children to be bad, lie, cheat
hurt other's that is something that comes NATURAL to the CARNAL MIND...


You teach Children RIGHT FROM WRONG and we know what is right from WRONG because GOD gave us those commandments thousands of years ago from the:

NOAHIDE LAWS

to the MOSAIC LAWS

to the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST..



However today you are seeing a World that rejects GOD and has spiraled into LAWLESSNESS which comes from MAN's DEPRAVED AND CARNAL MIND..

WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF SAVAGES...

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If this is how you feel the human mind works, I'm sorry for you. I can't pray for you, but I'll do what I can.

I'm sorry, but you're simply mistaken. Morality does not come from a book.
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Where does Morality come from and how did it evolve???
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Working together to not be eaten by lions in Africa.





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