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Scientists now say that a Brick is a Fluid !

Out of four billion Adults on Earth three people so far seem to go crazy by claiming that we and the Universe are all a SuperFluid ! And two of them are Certified Scientists one from Russia and the other from MIT USA !

Does it mean that My neurons are swimming in the same 'soup' as Yours ??
And ALL is made of the Same 'thing' ??

If fish sense other fish vibrations because they live in the same medium does it mean that we can also sense vibrations from others in the common medium of the SuperFluid ? Ohhoohhoo ! What's next , an ideal Specie where we read each others' thoughts from distance ?! No more lying and deceiving ?? Ya , in such a society How can you start a war never mind 'plan' to rob someone !

Two seemingly crazy scientists and one trailing wanna-be , trying to Wake us Up in believing the Reality !


Scientist Grigory Volovik's :

[link to arxiv.org]

The Superfluid Universe

by G.E. Volovik

Low Temperature Laboratory, Aalto University, Finland
L.D. Landau Institute for Theoretical Physics, Moscow, Russia
(Dated: April 4, 2012)



Scientist Kerson Huang from MIT :

[link to www.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de]

Dark Energy and Dark matter in

A Superfluid Universe

by Kerson Huang

Physics Department, MIT, Cambridge, USA
Institute of Advanced Studies, NTU, Singapore



And the logical version without formulas :


Oh yes , and what she already told me from the start and why we have to re-write the school books : in any (super)fluid all the phenomenon that can exist are Only : Waves , Vortices and their Harmonics , nothing else !
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That's actually a pretty old theory with plenty of evidence to back it up.
I remember talking about it 30 years ago for Christ's sake lol.
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Yeah, they say the same about glass, that the molecules are in motion and it's basically dripping down itself constantly, it's just that it supposedly takes 10,000 years or something to actually happen.
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That's actually a pretty old theory with plenty of evidence to back it up.
I remember talking about it 30 years ago for Christ's sake lol.

 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


Right , and that makes it even more intriquing because even now being demonstrated using the lates empiric formulas and astronomical/laboratory observations still it didn't see the Light of being Recognized ...

But now the mighty MIT stepped in and so I believe we are entering a new era of Recognition and positive change .

Take a look at the ramifications and what the SuperFluid implies ...
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-particle physics
-quantum physics
-string physics
-aether physics


Do you see the pattern? You start with a reference. A particle, a quanta, a string, or the aether.

And then you relate everything to that.

They are all just schemes.

However, aether physics, or starting from the concept that everything is a fluid, is a much better scheme.

Particle physics is a terrible physics. That's why particle physicists don't build ANYTHING.

Electricians build our electric grid and motors. Mechanics build our machines. Particle physicists just stand in front of chalk boards and try to think up stupid ideas to sell books.

Oh wait... string theory is actually even worse than that. Everything is made out of strings. hah. useless.
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light behaves like water.
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Yeah, they say the same about glass, that the molecules are in motion and it's basically dripping down itself constantly, it's just that it supposedly takes 10,000 years or something to actually happen.

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It is this Common Medium ( the SuperFluid ) that makes everithing and that stirs ( unintended pun ) emotions : suddenly we can't be to condenscendings to ... Mediums .

Here are more suggestions of the consequences , The Ultra Advanced Alien Specie's Boutique of Senses ( can You act ? You Bet !! ) :

Thread: The Ultra Advanced Alien Specie's Boutique of Senses




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Do you see the pattern? You start with a reference. A particle, a quanta, a string, or the aether.

And then you relate everything to that.

They are all just schemes.

However, aether physics, or starting from the concept that everything is a fluid, is a much better scheme.

Particle physics is a terrible physics. That's why particle physicists don't build ANYTHING.

Electricians build our electric grid and motors. Mechanics build our machines. Particle physicists just stand in front of chalk boards and try to think up stupid ideas to sell books.

Oh wait... string theory is actually even worse than that. Everything is made out of strings. hah. useless.
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Except fucking atom bombs

I am real nuclear physicist, I don't believe in particles, its just a model that happens to work quite well under certain circumstances.

I could be an electrician or electrical engineer, or any other kind of engineer for that matter. But I choose nuclear physics because it offers the greatest potential for both good and evil.

For me physics is about understanding the universe and the reality that we live in. All models used in physics are inherently incorrect. But they do work if you know what you are doing.
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And BTW the MIT pdf presentation is quite good. Very interesting stuff.
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For me physics is about understanding the universe and the reality that we live in. All models used in physics are inherently incorrect. But they do work if you know what you are doing. ....

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If you like Logic Arguments ( not puzzels ) than you'll enjoy following the UPN thread that also arrives to the conclusion that the Universe is made of a SuperFluid . That Can be troublesoot by anyone unlike the formulas in the MIT version . Try it !

[link to UPNtheory.WordPress.com]


Did you 'feel' the MAIN Conclusion : in a SuperFluid Universe all possible phenomenon can Only be : Waves , Vortices and their Harmonics ! It just explained the dual particle-wave nature observed ... read more , it's powerful .
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For me physics is about understanding the universe and the reality that we live in. All models used in physics are inherently incorrect. But they do work if you know what you are doing. ....

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If you like Logic Arguments ( not puzzels ) than you'll enjoy following the UPN thread that also arrives to the conclusion that the Universe is made of a SuperFluid . That Can be troublesoot by anyone unlike the formulas in the MIT version . Try it !

[link to UPNtheory.WordPress.com]


Did you 'feel' the MAIN Conclusion : in a SuperFluid Universe all possible phenomenon can Only be : Waves , Vortices and their Harmonics ! It just explained the dual particle-wave nature observed ... read more , it's powerful .
 Quoting: Doru


My conclusion is that reality is entirely wave(like) phenomena. The vortex can be derived from simple harmonic oscillations quite easily, and thus is a subset of wave.

Harmonics, i.e allowed wave-functions is a wonderful area of study both for the math person and the physics person.

Wave-particle duality is a horrible misnomer. Photons for instance are not 'particles' or 'waves'. Sometimes the wave model works better and sometimes the particle model works better. Light is not a wave and it is not a particle.

I have personally performed many of the historic experiments that lead us to believe in electrons, protons, and modern physics in general, and when you do this you realize just how much bullshit is mixed into the ideas and concepts underlying physics. There really is no way around it, for the regular person doesn't have access to the equipment necessary and must take some pundits word as fact. I suggest to everyone to try and perform as many experiments your self as you can, and learn the physics and the math rigor to make it meaningful so you can make up your own mind about how the world works.

That being said QED works to something like 50 decimal places, so when you come up with something better let me know.
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For me physics is about understanding the universe and the reality that we live in. All models used in physics are inherently incorrect. But they do work if you know what you are doing. ....

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If you like Logic Arguments ( not puzzels ) than you'll enjoy following the UPN thread that also arrives to the conclusion that the Universe is made of a SuperFluid . That Can be troublesoot by anyone unlike the formulas in the MIT version . Try it !

[link to UPNtheory.WordPress.com]


Did you 'feel' the MAIN Conclusion : in a SuperFluid Universe all possible phenomenon can Only be : Waves , Vortices and their Harmonics ! It just explained the dual particle-wave nature observed ... read more , it's powerful .
 Quoting: Doru


My conclusion is that reality is entirely wave(like) phenomena. The vortex can be derived from simple harmonic oscillations quite easily, and thus is a subset of wave.

Harmonics, i.e allowed wave-functions is a wonderful area of study both for the math person and the physics person.


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In that case you'll find the UPN right on because it describes sub-sub-...particles as vortices spinning the SuperFluid at very high speeds .

Look here how some scientists are observing the same SuperFluid ... note the remark about the Universe not having any empty spaces , exctely what the UPN is based on :


[link to english.ruvr.ru]

" ... And do we know what these gases are?

Yeah. I’d say we do. There’ve been various studies in the past about this gas which we know as “intergalactic medium”. We know quite a lot about it. And what we haven’t really done is mapped out on a kind of scale that we’re doing today. This intergalactic medium is mostly pretty remote stuff, but there’s really no part of the universe that is really empty of matter. There’s always something. And that’s what we’re looking at. ... " ....
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light behaves like water.

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In fact , the most powerful conclusion of those two scientists ( one from MIT ! ) is that all phenomeon possible in this Universal SuperFluid are Only Waves , Vortices and their Harmonics . Including Light and bricks ...

( BTW , Thank You for the brick of beer that I got as Karma ! )
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-particle physics
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Do you see the pattern? You start with a reference. A particle, a quanta, a string, or the aether.

And then you relate everything to that.

They are all just schemes.

However, aether physics, or starting from the concept that everything is a fluid, is a much better scheme.

Particle physics is a terrible physics. That's why particle physicists don't build ANYTHING.

Electricians build our electric grid and motors. Mechanics build our machines. Particle physicists just stand in front of chalk boards and try to think up stupid ideas to sell books.

Oh wait... string theory is actually even worse than that. Everything is made out of strings. hah. useless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


Except fucking atom bombs

I am real nuclear physicist, I don't believe in particles, its just a model that happens to work quite well under certain circumstances.

I could be an electrician or electrical engineer, or any other kind of engineer for that matter. But I choose nuclear physics because it offers the greatest potential for both good and evil.

For me physics is about understanding the universe and the reality that we live in. All models used in physics are inherently incorrect. But they do work if you know what you are doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23524705


No. You have it backwards. The atom bomb was developed through trial and error.

They just use particle physics to describe what they believe might be happening.

You don't need complex math to get some nuclear material and get it real hot, so that it blows up.
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Duhh... there are no solids.... anyone whos seen kiano reeves jump off a building and hit the street knows that.s226
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Yeah, they say the same about glass, that the molecules are in motion and it's basically dripping down itself constantly, it's just that it supposedly takes 10,000 years or something to actually happen.
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yes. it is true that glass is a liquid.

and a brick is fired at very high temperatures enough
to melt the silica and stuff into a vitreous state.

so, i wouldn't be surprised if a brick qualifies as a liquid.
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I will go one further and say that if you could manipulate light beams, you could manipulate a brick.
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It\'s all vibratory frequencies within a superfield.

[link to www.youtube.com]
No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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It would appear liquid if you perceived it bleeding through to other dimensions.
No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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A Bric is a measure of sugar in a fluid.
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Yeah, they say the same about glass, that the molecules are in motion and it's basically dripping down itself constantly, it's just that it supposedly takes 10,000 years or something to actually happen.
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A chair is the same, while is used and cared for will be in a stable state. If that chair is not used or cared from it follows into decay a then to dust. Evey thing like that will go back to dust, just like us. We were taught that in school when I was young. That glass will break and go into another state like sand.
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Thick as a brick. tounge


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Vibrations on a brick can make it fluid, it is only fluid by out side manipulation. Left in it natural state, with no one using, left in the outside elements in goes back to it natural state dust or dirt. It can be crapped up an made into another brick.

Glass can become liquid the same way a the brick, with some outside help. Neither one can without outside help.

You also can become liquid the same way as the brick and glass, not a very happy thought!
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i.m always in for new stuff and theories so i tested this statement that all is fluid the empiric way.

Unfortunatilyi landed up in hospital, but i don.t give up so easy: next time i.ll try to ajust the angle (from 90 to 45 degrees f ex) before diving into a wall of bricks when i want to swim.
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What did the Car Companies new way ahead of everybody when they were telling us that a door is a jar ??

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BWAHAHHAHAHA!!!@!@!!!
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Yeah, they say the same about glass, that the molecules are in motion and it's basically dripping down itself constantly, it's just that it supposedly takes 10,000 years or something to actually happen.
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A chair is the same, while is used and cared for will be in a stable state. If that chair is not used or cared from it follows into decay a then to dust. Evey thing like that will go back to dust, just like us. We were taught that in school when I was young. That glass will break and go into another state like sand.
 Quoting: Daughter


A chair really a tree on its way to being firewood.
Its not hard to see that everything is a state of flux, constant change, nothing is permanent or solid however this intellecutal knowledge doesnt do much for us.
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So the expression 'shitting bricks' is really a synonym for diarrhea???

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Many things are much more porous than they actually seem.
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meh, science can't even tell us how the wind blows
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You don't need complex math to get some nuclear material and get it real hot, so that it blows up.
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