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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25196431 United States 11/14/2012 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dont you all get it? If you choose with intent to survive in the society, you consent to its laws and punishments, stated or not. If you wish to not be apart, live in the wild or another counrty. That is not consenting. Once you rely on any form of it, you are enslaved to it. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27384624 United States 11/14/2012 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27384624 I was charged with misdemeanor "obstructing a peace officer" for simple saying "I do not consent" and rolling up my window. TRUST me, I know a LOT more about the system than you do. I spent 2 years full time reading all of the alternative law stuff and then one day, I decided to test it. I took it in the ass. All of you people are making a LOT of assumptions, but I am asking a simple question on a parallel subject. Keep your assumptions and post INFORMATION. in your OP, you say "this was a traffic violation contest". i didnt make any assumptions, i went with the bullshit YOU provided. misdemeanor obstruction ISN'T a traffic violation, dickhead. so, how about this: pony up as much pertinent info as you can (like jurisdiction, actual code you were charged with, any additional charges you might have "neglected" to mention), and you might actually get some pertinent input. or maybe you thought fucking kreskin was going to respond to your post? It was a traffic stop. I refused to consent and was hauled in. The misdemeanor ("criminal") charge was added later by overzealous prosecutors. So, try to refrain from injecting your ego into the discussion. Hello is there anybody in there? You refused to consent but you already consented with your driver license You already agreed to their system by signing your driver license Yes in their warped minds you consented even though you didn't because there was no full disclosure Either pay the fine or disappear off the radar You are not paying close enough attention. My license was signed "without prejudice" and the state was notified of that fact for one year prior. It is now "criminal" in my state to not have a valid license with you. This just underscores my point that it does not matter what you do anymore, the system will proceed over your "non-consent" and EVERYTHING else you try to do. This all happened 3 years ago, but I fought so hard that it drug out in court for 2+ years. I went through 3 judges and 6 prosecutors. Got almost everything dismissed except they clung like wolves to the "obstruction" charge, which was totally bogus. In the end, they brought in a "guest judge" from out of town and stuffed me in an unused, unfinished court room at the end of the hall and WHAM BAM, conviction. I ruffled so many feathers, that the actual District Attorney's personal deputy came all the way from the down town office to railroad my ass. Then, I bargained the judge out of my sentence, lol. Bet you sheeple didn't know you could do THAT?! I simply didn't consent to the sentence and she said OK! I talked her down to 6 months' probation and some community service and no fines. She as talking $1000 and jail time at first, lol. CASE CLOSED. But then, two weeks later, I got a letter with an "Amended sentence" for thousands of dollars. This is, of course, utterly illegal. My probation officer told me emphatically that I had pissed off "somebody important" and that I should not try to fight it, no matter how illegal it was. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27384624 United States 11/14/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is a contract without your signature? There is no consent without full disclosure and a signature Birth Cirtificate. It was signed by both or one parents giving the power of consent for your at birth. Sent back to the Government with consent revoked for non-disclosure. I'm telling you people, there is NO REMEDY. Don't let somebody sell you the idea that there is. Hence, I ATTEMPTED to ask a simple question in the beginning here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26551418 United States 11/14/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rule #l Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26551418 In their world a driver license = CONSENT Rule #2 Talk to a statute enforcer is CONSENT Rule #3 There is NO CONSENT unless there is FULL DISCLOSURE There has never been full disclosure which means their system is NULL & VOID People keep saying this, but I keep saying: Test your theories and see haw far you get. If one of you is David Merril, why don't you tell them how you have to BIKE everywhere in the snow? You signed a driver license You already consented Drive without a license It's better for your health Makes no difference. It is now "criminal" to drive without one, BTW. That means, tazer, jail. Another rule: Sovereignty is internal Meaning NO FEAR Just think of them as Microsoft employees with guns pulling you over |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27384624 United States 11/14/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can you be a party to a document you NEVER SIGNED? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26551418 You never signed the constitution so it doesn't pertain to you That makes perfect sense, but then WHY are all Americans raised to believe that they ARE a party to that document? Eh? Keep in mind that I have read EVERY strawman, freeman, redemption etc. piece of material that exists. ALL of it. It does not work in court, because the fascist system will just tune you out or shush you and proceed to the end (you, screwed) without allowing anything on the record. Now, I want to see official documents that address my first question: Who are "the people" and why am I not one of them. I can understand that I did not sign the Constitution, but then WHAT THE FUCK do we have state Constitutions for? This is the one I was told I was not a party to. Does this have to do with the IRS? If so, There is a clause in the Constitution, You ( as in your full name ) are a CORPORATION (i.e. JOHN E. DOE ) Your "we the people" is ( i.e. John E, of the DOE Family ) When you are born, your birth cirtificate is sold to the FEDS as a bond on JOHN E.DOE, in essence you should be able to pay all your IRS owed money from a simple signature upon your Birth Cirtificate. I might not be explaining it correctly and if anyone here knows what im talking about please intervene. I have seen it on here before and there are key words to use to make this happen in your favor. It all dates back to 1913. I'll try to find more info for you This is VERY old and vERY bogus "freeman" garbage. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27384624 United States 11/14/2012 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27384624 People keep saying this, but I keep saying: Test your theories and see haw far you get. If one of you is David Merril, why don't you tell them how you have to BIKE everywhere in the snow? You signed a driver license You already consented Drive without a license It's better for your health Makes no difference. It is now "criminal" to drive without one, BTW. That means, tazer, jail. Another rule: Sovereignty is internal Meaning NO FEAR Just think of them as Microsoft employees with guns pulling you over That's fine until the Macrohard lead bullet hits you in the chest. I had 3 red laser dots on my chest. 1 second from being tazered. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26551418 United States 11/14/2012 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27573720 in your OP, you say "this was a traffic violation contest". i didnt make any assumptions, i went with the bullshit YOU provided. misdemeanor obstruction ISN'T a traffic violation, dickhead. so, how about this: pony up as much pertinent info as you can (like jurisdiction, actual code you were charged with, any additional charges you might have "neglected" to mention), and you might actually get some pertinent input. or maybe you thought fucking kreskin was going to respond to your post? It was a traffic stop. I refused to consent and was hauled in. The misdemeanor ("criminal") charge was added later by overzealous prosecutors. So, try to refrain from injecting your ego into the discussion. Hello is there anybody in there? You refused to consent but you already consented with your driver license You already agreed to their system by signing your driver license Yes in their warped minds you consented even though you didn't because there was no full disclosure Either pay the fine or disappear off the radar You are not paying close enough attention. My license was signed "without prejudice" and the state was notified of that fact for one year prior. It is now "criminal" in my state to not have a valid license with you. This just underscores my point that it does not matter what you do anymore, the system will proceed over your "non-consent" and EVERYTHING else you try to do. This all happened 3 years ago, but I fought so hard that it drug out in court for 2+ years. I went through 3 judges and 6 prosecutors. Got almost everything dismissed except they clung like wolves to the "obstruction" charge, which was totally bogus. In the end, they brought in a "guest judge" from out of town and stuffed me in an unused, unfinished court room at the end of the hall and WHAM BAM, conviction. I ruffled so many feathers, that the actual District Attorney's personal deputy came all the way from the down town office to railroad my ass. Then, I bargained the judge out of my sentence, lol. Bet you sheeple didn't know you could do THAT?! I simply didn't consent to the sentence and she said OK! I talked her down to 6 months' probation and some community service and no fines. She as talking $1000 and jail time at first, lol. CASE CLOSED. But then, two weeks later, I got a letter with an "Amended sentence" for thousands of dollars. This is, of course, utterly illegal. My probation officer told me emphatically that I had pissed off "somebody important" and that I should not try to fight it, no matter how illegal it was. lst thing you did wrong. You got a driver license 2nd thing you did wrong. You went to court. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26551418 United States 11/14/2012 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26551418 You signed a driver license You already consented Drive without a license It's better for your health Makes no difference. It is now "criminal" to drive without one, BTW. That means, tazer, jail. Another rule: Sovereignty is internal Meaning NO FEAR Just think of them as Microsoft employees with guns pulling you over That's fine until the Macrohard lead bullet hits you in the chest. I had 3 red laser dots on my chest. 1 second from being tazered. Big difference between you and me. I'm not afraid of death. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27384624 United States 11/14/2012 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27384624 It was a traffic stop. I refused to consent and was hauled in. The misdemeanor ("criminal") charge was added later by overzealous prosecutors. So, try to refrain from injecting your ego into the discussion. Hello is there anybody in there? You refused to consent but you already consented with your driver license You already agreed to their system by signing your driver license Yes in their warped minds you consented even though you didn't because there was no full disclosure Either pay the fine or disappear off the radar You are not paying close enough attention. My license was signed "without prejudice" and the state was notified of that fact for one year prior. It is now "criminal" in my state to not have a valid license with you. This just underscores my point that it does not matter what you do anymore, the system will proceed over your "non-consent" and EVERYTHING else you try to do. This all happened 3 years ago, but I fought so hard that it drug out in court for 2+ years. I went through 3 judges and 6 prosecutors. Got almost everything dismissed except they clung like wolves to the "obstruction" charge, which was totally bogus. In the end, they brought in a "guest judge" from out of town and stuffed me in an unused, unfinished court room at the end of the hall and WHAM BAM, conviction. I ruffled so many feathers, that the actual District Attorney's personal deputy came all the way from the down town office to railroad my ass. Then, I bargained the judge out of my sentence, lol. Bet you sheeple didn't know you could do THAT?! I simply didn't consent to the sentence and she said OK! I talked her down to 6 months' probation and some community service and no fines. She as talking $1000 and jail time at first, lol. CASE CLOSED. But then, two weeks later, I got a letter with an "Amended sentence" for thousands of dollars. This is, of course, utterly illegal. My probation officer told me emphatically that I had pissed off "somebody important" and that I should not try to fight it, no matter how illegal it was. lst thing you did wrong. You got a driver license 2nd thing you did wrong. You went to court. It's clear that you know nothing about the subject. Good day, sir or madam. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26551418 United States 11/14/2012 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is a contract without your signature? There is no consent without full disclosure and a signature Birth Cirtificate. It was signed by both or one parents giving the power of consent for your at birth. That's not consent from me. It means nothing |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1326993 United States 11/14/2012 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are a citizen of the United States, its laws pertain to you, regardless if you think they are "fair" or not. That makes you one of the people, the prosecutor was obviously wrong, but so were you. However, a foreign national is not under the jurisdiction of American officials, but if they go that route - none of the protections are valid either. A double edged sword at best. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26551418 United States 11/14/2012 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26551418 Hello is there anybody in there? You refused to consent but you already consented with your driver license You already agreed to their system by signing your driver license Yes in their warped minds you consented even though you didn't because there was no full disclosure Either pay the fine or disappear off the radar You are not paying close enough attention. My license was signed "without prejudice" and the state was notified of that fact for one year prior. It is now "criminal" in my state to not have a valid license with you. This just underscores my point that it does not matter what you do anymore, the system will proceed over your "non-consent" and EVERYTHING else you try to do. This all happened 3 years ago, but I fought so hard that it drug out in court for 2+ years. I went through 3 judges and 6 prosecutors. Got almost everything dismissed except they clung like wolves to the "obstruction" charge, which was totally bogus. In the end, they brought in a "guest judge" from out of town and stuffed me in an unused, unfinished court room at the end of the hall and WHAM BAM, conviction. I ruffled so many feathers, that the actual District Attorney's personal deputy came all the way from the down town office to railroad my ass. Then, I bargained the judge out of my sentence, lol. Bet you sheeple didn't know you could do THAT?! I simply didn't consent to the sentence and she said OK! I talked her down to 6 months' probation and some community service and no fines. She as talking $1000 and jail time at first, lol. CASE CLOSED. But then, two weeks later, I got a letter with an "Amended sentence" for thousands of dollars. This is, of course, utterly illegal. My probation officer told me emphatically that I had pissed off "somebody important" and that I should not try to fight it, no matter how illegal it was. lst thing you did wrong. You got a driver license 2nd thing you did wrong. You went to court. It's clear that you know nothing about the subject. Good day, sir or madam. The legalese of the system is simple for people like myself There is no consent without full disclosure Simple |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26551418 United States 11/14/2012 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are a citizen of the United States, its laws pertain to you, regardless if you think they are "fair" or not. That makes you one of the people, the prosecutor was obviously wrong, but so were you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326993 However, a foreign national is not under the jurisdiction of American officials, but if they go that route - none of the protections are valid either. A double edged sword at best. Citizen = Strawman = Fiction I'm a man |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27384624 United States 11/14/2012 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27384624 You are not paying close enough attention. My license was signed "without prejudice" and the state was notified of that fact for one year prior. It is now "criminal" in my state to not have a valid license with you. This just underscores my point that it does not matter what you do anymore, the system will proceed over your "non-consent" and EVERYTHING else you try to do. This all happened 3 years ago, but I fought so hard that it drug out in court for 2+ years. I went through 3 judges and 6 prosecutors. Got almost everything dismissed except they clung like wolves to the "obstruction" charge, which was totally bogus. In the end, they brought in a "guest judge" from out of town and stuffed me in an unused, unfinished court room at the end of the hall and WHAM BAM, conviction. I ruffled so many feathers, that the actual District Attorney's personal deputy came all the way from the down town office to railroad my ass. Then, I bargained the judge out of my sentence, lol. Bet you sheeple didn't know you could do THAT?! I simply didn't consent to the sentence and she said OK! I talked her down to 6 months' probation and some community service and no fines. She as talking $1000 and jail time at first, lol. CASE CLOSED. But then, two weeks later, I got a letter with an "Amended sentence" for thousands of dollars. This is, of course, utterly illegal. My probation officer told me emphatically that I had pissed off "somebody important" and that I should not try to fight it, no matter how illegal it was. lst thing you did wrong. You got a driver license 2nd thing you did wrong. You went to court. It's clear that you know nothing about the subject. Good day, sir or madam. The legalese of the system is simple for people like myself There is no consent without full disclosure Simple Go get arrested and see how you do! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26551418 United States 11/14/2012 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is a contract without your signature? There is no consent without full disclosure and a signature Birth Cirtificate. It was signed by both or one parents giving the power of consent for your at birth. That's not consent from me. It means nothing Were my parents given full disclosure when they signed the birth certificate NOPE no full disclosure = NO CONSENT = NO CONTRACT |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26551418 United States 11/14/2012 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26551418 lst thing you did wrong. You got a driver license 2nd thing you did wrong. You went to court. It's clear that you know nothing about the subject. Good day, sir or madam. The legalese of the system is simple for people like myself There is no consent without full disclosure Simple Go get arrested and see how you do! Only fictions can get arrested |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9026665 United States 11/14/2012 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can you be a party to a document you NEVER SIGNED? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26551418 You never signed the constitution so it doesn't pertain to you That makes perfect sense, but then WHY are all Americans raised to believe that they ARE a party to that document? Eh? Keep in mind that I have read EVERY strawman, freeman, redemption etc. piece of material that exists. ALL of it. It does not work in court, because the fascist system will just tune you out or shush you and proceed to the end (you, screwed) without allowing anything on the record. Now, I want to see official documents that address my first question: Who are "the people" and why am I not one of them. I can understand that I did not sign the Constitution, but then WHAT THE FUCK do we have state Constitutions for? This is the one I was told I was not a party to. Does this have to do with the IRS? If so, There is a clause in the Constitution, You ( as in your full name ) are a CORPORATION (i.e. JOHN E. DOE ) Your "we the people" is ( i.e. John E, of the DOE Family ) When you are born, your birth cirtificate is sold to the FEDS as a bond on JOHN E.DOE, in essence you should be able to pay all your IRS owed money from a simple signature upon your Birth Cirtificate. I might not be explaining it correctly and if anyone here knows what im talking about please intervene. I have seen it on here before and there are key words to use to make this happen in your favor. It all dates back to 1913. I'll try to find more info for you My bad, didn't get to the "License" part for whatever reason but what I say still stands. Here's a link that might help everyone here: CONSUMER GOODS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE REGISTERED [link to savingtosuitorsclub.net] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1321115 United States 11/14/2012 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am looking for a person who knows much more about the REALITY of this subject - not speculation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27384624 When the prosecutor said this, I pursued the question as to why, etc. and she stonewalled me. I was VERY persistent and I could see her armpits soak through her shirt. Finally she got up and left the room and sent a different deputy prosecutor in to see me. This was a traffic violation contest. Anyway, I am a natural born American who has served in the military, etc. If I am not one of "the people" refered to as "We, the people" in the State and Federal Constitution, then WHAT THE FUCK AM I? This would mean that those documents are no applicable and that I (you, we...) have NO rights whatsoever. And, all court cases on that subject are just dog and pony shows. I can assure you %100 that this happened in real life. I want to speak with somebody who KNOWS how and why this is so. It is a game-changer, obviously. Where are some REAL documents I can look up (in a library) that explain this phenomenon? THANKS! WHAT?? She is wrong, wrong wrong. You ARE the PEOPLE - we ALL are. Shame on her for saying this to you. You need look no farther than the Constitution of your state and the federal one - you are CLEARLY a part of the "PEOPLE". What law school did she graduate from?? Lawyers-R-Us? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1321115 United States 11/14/2012 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Put it this way Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26551418 Nobody has jurisdiction over you because you have never consented to anything But what did you do? You talked to them which in their world = CONSENT That's simply not true. If you don't talk, you'll get tazered and dumped off in jail. Trust me, I know. I did it. CONSENT is not required in this fascist system. Anybody who says otherwise in SELLING SOMETHING. Also, on this subject I have to deal with a lot of male egos who bought into the "strawman" idea and cannot be convinced that they are not right (because they paid money and time to "learn" about it.) To all of you: I challenge you to go get arrested and then try to get off the hook using strawman BS. Go ahead, I'll wait. Guys, this strawman stuff is just that - BS. It's a way tot ry and twist the law into a pretzle to make it fit a person's desire to be "free" or the corporation. None of it, none of it, has any basis in our modern system of jurisprudence. You will have a much better time finding errors in procedure and substance, rather than trying to make the argument that the state has no legal right when it comes to you as a person. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27261702 United States 11/14/2012 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Constitution is a contract, a contract which you are not party to because your name is not on it. it does not apply to you as when you are in court you are there as a corporate entity using documents issued by another corporate entity . Forget all the freeman crap ans sovereign citizen bullshit. its all about contracts .. drivers license? thats a contract you entered into by exchanging your right travel for a privelege (license) to drive. Driving is legally defined as a commercial activity and therefore regulated. Traveling is not a commercial activity and not to be regulated . The UCC is the law of the land in regards to administrative and contractual matters. Check it out.. Thread: No Car registration is required by law. Check it out. |
mrclean User ID: 18330853 Switzerland 11/14/2012 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You may want to do some research into: February 21, 1871 with the Forty-First Congress in session an Act was passed*. The title was "An Act To Provide A Government for the District of Columbia" also known as the "Act of 1871." A SEPARATE CONSTITUTION was created after the Civil War which made you a SUBJECT. So technically the prosecutor was correct, you are not a citizen as defined in 'we, the people' anymore... When a lawyer goes to take the bar, they must SWEAR AN OATH to the 'corporation of the United States'... The entire system is illegitimate... You really think the Civil War was fought over slavery? Those that won the war simply re-wrote history. Read all about the SCAM of 1871 here: [link to reality-bytes.hubpages.com] mrclean |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27261702 United States 11/14/2012 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26551418 Where is a contract without your signature? There is no consent without full disclosure and a signature Birth Cirtificate. It was signed by both or one parents giving the power of consent for your at birth. That's not consent from me. It means nothing Were my parents given full disclosure when they signed the birth certificate NOPE no full disclosure = NO CONSENT = NO CONTRACT The problem lies in the fact that if you do not reserve your rights from the very beginning of contractual negotiation you are legally considered to have forfeited your rights |
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Therion156 User ID: 1506341 Mexico 11/14/2012 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The CON-stitutions, both federal & state ONLY applies to persons or their agents that hold political office... IOW, the constitutions are limitations upon governmental powers.... since you are not in political office or an agent of a political office holder, the constitutions do not apply to you.... note the so-called bill of rights... it doesnt give you rights... it merely provides for rules that prohibits the government & its agents from exercising certain powers that are inimical to the concepts of liberty as contained in the organic charter..... when you try to stand employing the constitution you MUST insure that your natural human rights are antecedent prior to the formation of any government.... and note on the record that it is THEY as government actors who must abide by the rules, conditions & limitations of the constitutions... NOT YOU! Hence you must use great discretion & care in the use of language, for they will attempt to trick you into covertly admitting that you are a political office holder and\or agent thereof, and once that happens you are subject not only to their rules, codes & regulations but also to the 4th branch statutory jurisdiction where only limited privileges exist by statute.... NOT LEGAL ADVICE, ENTERTAINMENT ONLY! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27261702 United States 11/14/2012 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27573720 in your OP, you say "this was a traffic violation contest". i didnt make any assumptions, i went with the bullshit YOU provided. misdemeanor obstruction ISN'T a traffic violation, dickhead. so, how about this: pony up as much pertinent info as you can (like jurisdiction, actual code you were charged with, any additional charges you might have "neglected" to mention), and you might actually get some pertinent input. or maybe you thought fucking kreskin was going to respond to your post? It was a traffic stop. I refused to consent and was hauled in. The misdemeanor ("criminal") charge was added later by overzealous prosecutors. So, try to refrain from injecting your ego into the discussion. Hello is there anybody in there? You refused to consent but you already consented with your driver license You already agreed to their system by signing your driver license Yes in their warped minds you consented even though you didn't because there was no full disclosure Either pay the fine or disappear off the radar You are not paying close enough attention. My license was signed "without prejudice" and the state was notified of that fact for one year prior. It is now "criminal" in my state to not have a valid license with you. This just underscores my point that it does not matter what you do anymore, the system will proceed over your "non-consent" and EVERYTHING else you try to do. This all happened 3 years ago, but I fought so hard that it drug out in court for 2+ years. I went through 3 judges and 6 prosecutors. Got almost everything dismissed except they clung like wolves to the "obstruction" charge, which was totally bogus. In the end, they brought in a "guest judge" from out of town and stuffed me in an unused, unfinished court room at the end of the hall and WHAM BAM, conviction. I ruffled so many feathers, that the actual District Attorney's personal deputy came all the way from the down town office to railroad my ass. Then, I bargained the judge out of my sentence, lol. Bet you sheeple didn't know you could do THAT?! I simply didn't consent to the sentence and she said OK! I talked her down to 6 months' probation and some community service and no fines. She as talking $1000 and jail time at first, lol. CASE CLOSED. But then, two weeks later, I got a letter with an "Amended sentence" for thousands of dollars. This is, of course, utterly illegal. My probation officer told me emphatically that I had pissed off "somebody important" and that I should not try to fight it, no matter how illegal it was. |
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