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SHTF Hand Held Communication Devices

 
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megaphone
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That's funny!
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11/14/2012 04:30 PM
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Yaesu FM Transceiver with Ham Radio License, oh wait no FCC to regulate it, don't worry about license ;)
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I'm a big fan of the yaesu radios. I have an ft-51r, and the very slick and badass VX-8DR, this guy is waterproof and quad band, you can rx .5-999Mhz, w/o mods. The 51r will tx/rx on 50-999 after you modify it slightly.

They also do data (modem) pretty nicely if you are into that sort of thing.

I also have a pile of motorola talkabout type radios too, these are good because you can give them to friends etc. The handheld vhf/uhf radios can be tuned to the talkabouts on FRS channels at 462.xxxx
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25276568


You can probably get more than 3 Wouxons for the price of one Yaesu.

My Wouxon hits a repeater 45 miles away, made well, etc.

$99 bucks at:

[link to www.cheapham.com]

If your budget is even tighter, go for a BaoFeng for about $50 or less:

[link to www.amazon.com]

If you want to pass your Technician Exam, I highly recommend(Best $25 I ever spent):

[link to www.hamradiolicenseexam.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25658088


Indeed cheap chinese electronics are available. The baofeng looks better in that it has a larger frequency range.

I have to say that I have beat the living hell out of my FT-51r, I have used it in logging camps and on the ocean and I have never had it fail me. I hope the newer one does just as well, and I think it will. These radios are solid workhorses, and for emergency situations that's what you want. Yaesus' are like the Nikons' of the ham world, not the very best, but right up there. Anyway you get what you pay for, and it might be better to have three radios instead of one. Esp after two break.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25276568


The new offering of the FT-51r is the FT-60R and can be bought for under $150 at:

[link to www.universal-radio.com]

[link to www.gigaparts.com]

I also have a commercial Wouxon with 2.5 steps as well. Like my Wouxons a lot, but might pick up a Yaesu FT-60R. I have the Yaesu 2900 and the 8800 as well, but I use my Wouxon the most.
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First you have to decide WHY you want to communicate ... and with who. That determines the DISTANCE that you need to communicate over.

Secondly will you be communicating via VOICE or DATA? That determines the MODE that you want to communicate with.

In order of distance covered:

No or easy to obtain license options (US oriented):

FRS walkie talkies: 1/4 to 1/2 mile, unless open territory then maybe 2 miles

GMRS walkie talkies: 1/2 to 1 mile, unless open territory then maybe 3 to 4 miles (forget the advertising 27 miles!!)

CB (AM): 1/2 to 4 miles with standard antenna (probably 2 to 3)

CB (SSB - single sideband): 3 to 15 miles with standard antenna (probably 8 to 12)

MURS (near marine radio & 2 meter amateur freqs) 4 to 30 miles with typical (more complex) antenna set up

Amatuer Radio License options:

2 Meters, 4 to 30 miles with typical antenna set up (technician class or higher - US)

6 Meters, 10 to 50 miles with typical antenna set up
(technician class or higher - US)

160 Meters, (just above AM commercial radio station band) 20 to 50 miles day, 40 to 200 miles night (general class or higher - US) NO SKIP except terrain induced

80 Meters, 20 to 80 miles day, 40 to 300 miles night (general class or higher) NO SKIP except terrain induced

40 Meters or higher, round the world potential. Skip is the main determining factor on who you hear and how far the signal goes (includes 20 meters, 15 meters, 10 meters etc. etc.)(10 meters can also have the propagation dynamics of the CB band since it is immediately adjacent to it wrt frequencies)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25450407


Forgot to add:

One can virtually triple the range of the FRS or GMRS radios if one uses a "Pringles" Can at each end and point's that Can towards the other person.

Take an empty "Pringles" can. About 1/3 of the way from the bottem poke a small hole in the side and stick the stubby antenna through it into the Pringle's can. Point the Pringles can towards the other radio. VOILA, you now have a makeshift directional antenna. When done on both ends it about triples the range of the FRS & GMRS radios.
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11/14/2012 04:43 PM
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Yaesu FM Transceiver with Ham Radio License, oh wait no FCC to regulate it, don't worry about license ;)
 Quoting: Saratonin


I'm a big fan of the yaesu radios. I have an ft-51r, and the very slick and badass VX-8DR, this guy is waterproof and quad band, you can rx .5-999Mhz, w/o mods. The 51r will tx/rx on 50-999 after you modify it slightly.

They also do data (modem) pretty nicely if you are into that sort of thing.

I also have a pile of motorola talkabout type radios too, these are good because you can give them to friends etc. The handheld vhf/uhf radios can be tuned to the talkabouts on FRS channels at 462.xxxx
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25276568


You can probably get more than 3 Wouxons for the price of one Yaesu.

My Wouxon hits a repeater 45 miles away, made well, etc.

$99 bucks at:

[link to www.cheapham.com]

If your budget is even tighter, go for a BaoFeng for about $50 or less:

[link to www.amazon.com]

If you want to pass your Technician Exam, I highly recommend(Best $25 I ever spent):

[link to www.hamradiolicenseexam.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25658088


+1 on wouxun
KG-uvd1p

I hate chinese shit but this one is actually very good
word is they make it in the same plant as yaesu/vertex

I've had mine for over a year it went thru hell and high water
it still works great

I examined all the soldering and layout of the pcb closely under a microscope

I do surface mount soldering at work on microcomponents and microwave assemblies

sure some of the menu layouts suck but you get used to it

few months in a charger burned out, got a new one for $20
they actually improved the design, the regulator now has a heatsink

the batteries are very cheap and light and actually last a very long time

after I dropped it for the Nth time the flashlight stopped working but I'll just fix that myself no biggie

I'm very happy with it especially for the price ~$99

I've had and used at least 7 other handhelds
from icom, yaesu, standard, motorola etc

I consider myself an expert user and am a certified electronics tech
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11/14/2012 04:45 PM
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oh and one more thing forget the wouxon belt clip it's too weak but good new is Motorola beltclips fit it just fine
30 seconds with a file and viola
UNBREAKABLE now
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11/14/2012 04:51 PM
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11/14/2012 04:52 PM
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If you want a real radio for when SHTF CB radio is not your best bet. Amateur radio is without a doubt your best bet. I recommend becoming a licensed Amateur Radio Operator. Its very easy to get into now adays, study with practice tests online. Honestly though when SHTF it wont matter if you are licensed at all. Here are some portable radios that I recommend the first two are the best for long range communication. These are multi band shortwave radios that range from HF to UHF and VHF.

[link to www.hamcity.com (secure)]

[link to www.hamcity.com (secure)]

These radios will probably be your best bet for long range communication and monitoring local police/fire.

If you want nothing but an HT (handheld radio)anything from Yaesu, Icom, Or Kenwood.

Here is an example of a decent one, the problem is that they are extremely limited to what bands they can pick up. UHF and VHF HT's are nice when you hit a repeater, but when SHTF you probably are going to hear the most communication over HF radio. The two HF radios I listed above this one are not Hand Held but they are portable and can fit in a backpack or in the Yaesu FT-817's case can be slung across your back.


[link to www.hamcity.com (secure)]
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11/14/2012 04:54 PM
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megaphone
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omg that actually made me laugh out loud. then think about it and see it and laughed out again.
then i had to explain why i was laughing

lol

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11/14/2012 05:10 PM
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fire is also a good thing
spraypaint
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11/14/2012 05:16 PM
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How about a digital frequency hopping 900MHz UHF handheld?


[link to www.trisquare.us]
Gerlad The Magnificent

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11/14/2012 05:26 PM

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What would you suggest for hand held communication devices when the SHTF ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25677410


AR15

Just kidding. I would suggest one of those wind up radios like this one:

[link to www.amazon.com]
Huzzah!
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11/14/2012 05:57 PM
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Has anyone ever tried the Puxing 888K ?
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11/14/2012 08:03 PM
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We got over three quarters of a mile with 2 paper cups and the string
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11/14/2012 08:50 PM
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How about a digital frequency hopping 900MHz UHF handheld?


[link to www.trisquare.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25667625


you will be able to communicate with yourself

cause ain't nobody else got one
Theslcguy

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11/14/2012 09:23 PM
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All you'll need right here... Best for preppers!

BaoFeng *UV-5R Plus*;
[link to www.amazon.com]

Best with; [link to www.amazon.com]
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11/14/2012 09:23 PM
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What would you suggest for hand held communication devices when the SHTF ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25677410


OP, I would recommend that you do a search on survival blog, then think carefully about your budget and needs. The question needs to be honed a little to get a more precise answer.

For example, do you wish to listen only or transmit? What range do you desire? How much money do you have to spend? Are you willing to learn how to use it, or do you want something fast and dirty to operate? What's important to you in your system? What are your needs and those of the people using it? What's your technical proficiency level? Is security important? Why do you need a transmit/receive ability?
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11/14/2012 09:28 PM
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Start here:
[link to www.survivalblog.com]
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11/14/2012 09:59 PM
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[link to 3.bp.blogspot.com]
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11/15/2012 10:32 AM
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12574507


1rof1
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All you'll need right here... Best for preppers!

BaoFeng *UV-5R Plus*;
[link to www.amazon.com]

Best with; [link to www.amazon.com]
 Quoting: Theslcguy


Thank you I will check them out !
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What would you suggest for hand held communication devices when the SHTF ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25677410


OP, I would recommend that you do a search on survival blog, then think carefully about your budget and needs. The question needs to be honed a little to get a more precise answer.

For example, do you wish to listen only or transmit? What range do you desire? How much money do you have to spend? Are you willing to learn how to use it, or do you want something fast and dirty to operate? What's important to you in your system? What are your needs and those of the people using it? What's your technical proficiency level? Is security important? Why do you need a transmit/receive ability?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110734



Thank you for the great advice. I will definitely do some more research before I buy. Ideally I would like one that would both listen and transmit.
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Thank you

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