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I have decided not to celebrate xmas with gift(of material items) giving and receiving.

 
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I have decided not to celebrate xmas with gift(of material items) giving and receiving.
The gift of loving thy self is more than enough. And being with family when needed and lending a helping hand is worth more than any thing that can be bought. The best things ARE free.

When my family gets together on thanksgiving, we usually exchange ideas about what we want for xmas and look at adds in the newspaper about Black Friday deals. I will tell them i want nothing and why. I understand the concept about the being known as Jesus, and his birth and rise into Christ consciousness more now then EVER. It's truly beautiful when the truth is realized and you know it from within yourself. And it feels so good to love yourself and distribute that love to others. They(anybody you are around when you are truly within that love in your heart) can truly feel what you feel when you are around them and you become an energy of true pure love that helps to shine that light within all around you. They will understand if they truly feel their heart when i explain it to them(I will only explain what needs to be explained at that time, to help them get where i am coming from on their level). And if some of them do not understand where i am coming from, i will leave them be and let it resonate with them for a while. So the seed of true love can grow.

With Love, DH
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Being together with family and in good moods is the best gift we all could ask for:)
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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I understand the concept about the being known as Jesus, and his birth and rise into Christ consciousness more now then EVER.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


Your own words betray the fact that you have not understood at all. There is no such thing as 'Christ consciousness' as you and other new agers believe, or the 'rise into it'.

On the contrary, Jesus said,

"Unless a man is born again, he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven."

But no doubt you will choose to believe who you want to believe.

Anyway, since this thread is about Christmas presents, I will leave it there. I just wanted to point out that fact.

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I think that as long as an individual understands that in all things, the intangibles (heart, spirit, etc) come before the tangibles (material), then it doesn't really matter how you approach the holidays.

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I understand the concept about the being known as Jesus, and his birth and rise into Christ consciousness more now then EVER.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


Your own words betray the fact that you have not understood at all. There is no such thing as 'Christ consciousness' as you and other new agers believe, or the 'rise into it'.

On the contrary, Jesus said,

"Unless a man is born again, he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven."

But no doubt you will choose to believe who you want to believe.

Anyway, since this thread is about Christmas presents, I will leave it there. I just wanted to point out that fact.

afro
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Christianity is a new age belief from Gnosticism and Egyptian teachings. What i speak of has been known cense even before the ancient Egypt we know of today.

But alas, believe what you will brother:)

Last Edited by DoubleHelix on 11/14/2012 04:46 PM
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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I think that as long as an individual understands that in all things, the intangibles (heart, spirit, etc) come before the tangibles (material), then it doesn't really matter how you approach the holidays.

peace


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I can agree with that. Although, I will still refuse to spend a penny on it and will accept no gift or guilt that could possibly come along with the decision i have made about it. I am not saying that is what everyone should do. But it is what i have chosen to do.

In order to break free from this perpetual system of defunct traditions that lead us farther from ourselves, we must start by taking a stand for what you feel is right. No matter how strong the opposition my be. You just might find more in agreement with you than you may think.

Be with family, enjoy a wonderful meal. Isn't that the point anyway. When did it ever HAVE to be about gifts and spending money most do not have to spend anyway. We have strayed so far. But now we know what feels right.

All i am saying is why not act upon what you feel is right. Instead of giving in like always. It's time we walk the walk instead of just talking the talk. This is what i will do.

And anyone else IS free to do what they feel is right. We will always have our free will. Why not use it?

I am not directing this reply at you, per say bro.

But to all who may read it:)

Last Edited by DoubleHelix on 11/14/2012 05:03 PM
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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The gift of loving thy self is more than enough. And being with family when needed and lending a helping hand is worth more than any thing that can be bought. The best things ARE free.

When my family gets together on thanksgiving, we usually exchange ideas about what we want for xmas and look at adds in the newspaper about Black Friday deals. I will tell them i want nothing and why. I understand the concept about the being known as Jesus, and his birth and rise into Christ consciousness more now then EVER. It's truly beautiful when the truth is realized and you know it from within yourself. And it feels so good to love yourself and distribute that love to others. They(anybody you are around when you are truly within that love in your heart) can truly feel what you feel when you are around them and you become an energy of true pure love that helps to shine that light within all around you. They will understand if they truly feel their heart when i explain it to them(I will only explain what needs to be explained at that time, to help them get where i am coming from on their level). And if some of them do not understand where i am coming from, i will leave them be and let it resonate with them for a while. So the seed of true love can grow.

With Love, DH
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


As a wise man once told me, the greatest gift one can give to another, is a change from within for the better that they may follow. My regards,
EL
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I understand the concept about the being known as Jesus, and his birth and rise into Christ consciousness more now then EVER.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


Your own words betray the fact that you have not understood at all. There is no such thing as 'Christ consciousness' as you and other new agers believe, or the 'rise into it'.

On the contrary, Jesus said,

"Unless a man is born again, he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven."

But no doubt you will choose to believe who you want to believe.

Anyway, since this thread is about Christmas presents, I will leave it there. I just wanted to point out that fact.

afro
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Not to offend you, but we don't really know much about what was actually in the bible. The roman catholic church probably inserted many texts into the bible to keep people ignorant, hell, for many years it was illegal to own your own copy of the bible because they had to interpret it for you. The original followers of Jesus Christ were burned at the stake with the bible they had around their neck. The Codex Sinaiticus isn't even a finished version, but much is different. The number of the beast is different, for all we know the idea of being reborn isn't in the bible. I was born to two protestant Christians, and they baptized me, but I never consented, nor would I have if is was asked now or ever. I think following that to the T is similar to those who would like to see the gays die because it says it in the bible (also probably put there by the Catholics).

Just take the text with a grain of salt. If you had a first edition, straight from the mouth of jesus version, I would not have a single problem with following it word for word, but you just don't know. King James was a Rosicrucian, a form of masonry, so a far as you know, he could have wanted you to be in the dark about the truths of what Jesus said.

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You party pooper!
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As a wise man once told me, the greatest gift one can give to another, is a change from within for the better that they may follow. My regards,
EL
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Yes

As in, to teach by example. This is all i am saying here. To do what you feel is right and not to do what you feel is wrong, just because everyone else does it.

I just wanted to make that clear. And thank you for you post:)
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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You party pooper!
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Who says you still cant party?



I say every day should be a party5a
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You party pooper!
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Who says you still cant party?



I say every day should be a party5a
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Amen! I like your idea...it's less expensive!
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Here in Tucson, we have a Festivus Pole with Adornments outside the main public library; or lights stretched down from the top of the pole in the shape of a christmas tree.

here is a pic from 2010
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the airing of grievances approaches.

I generally refer to Thanksgiving as Thankstaking, for that's pretty much what the settlers did to the natives - took from them ...

reverse & re-invent reality (tell the truth, leak it all) ..

Every day is a holy day ...

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srry but obama clause is handing out presents n u r buying.
i think us elves should go on strike n b grinches.
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Will you observe Thanksgiving?
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Here in Tucson, we have a Festivus Pole with Adornments outside the main public library; or lights stretched down from the top of the pole in the shape of a christmas tree.

here is a pic from 2010
[link to 4.bp.blogspot.com]

festivus
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the airing of grievances approaches.

I generally refer to Thanksgiving as Thankstaking, for that's pretty much what the settlers did to the natives - took from them ...

reverse & re-invent reality (tell the truth, leak it all) ..

Every day is a holy day ...

cool2
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Ha!

So it is actually celebrated in places, lol. That's awesome.

Every day IS a holy day..

Happy Festivus to the rest of us : D
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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“Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca
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Will you observe Thanksgiving?
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It will be a party : D

But the only thing i will be observing is good ol home cookin while in good spirits.

BTW most families that i know of do not even acknowledge what is taught in the school systems about that day anyway. Its just about being together and eating good food(and football for some).

And believe me. If anything is mentioned about the tradition. I will not hesitate to speak my mind. I have been known to do that within my family, and they know better than to ask me unless they wish to hear an alternative way of seeing things, lol.
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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Will you observe Thanksgiving?
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It will be a party : D

But the only thing i will be observing is good ol home cookin while in good spirits.

BTW most families that i know of do not even acknowledge what is taught in the school systems about that day anyway. Its just about being together and eating good food(and football for some).

And believe me. If anything is mentioned about the tradition. I will not hesitate to speak my mind. I have been known to do that within my family, and they know better than to ask me unless they wish to hear an alternative way of seeing things, lol.
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Then youve already been spreading that gift, albeit unknowingly. At this point, all you're doing is refining the perfect you. My regards,
EL
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LoL

Some of them can do more(and see more) than that even.

Thanks for the link's : D
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Last year, my children and I agreed to take the money that would normally be spent on gifts and give it to a struggling family that we personally knew. They were having a hell of a time just making ends meet through no fault of their own. We were all smiles on Christmas morning because we knew that our friends were having a good morning, too, with plenty to eat and no worries about unpaid bills. We're never going to return to the madness of Christmas past. I am still plotting out what we will be doing on Christmas morning but one thing for certain is that it won't be cleaning up a pile of discarded wrapping paper. Spending time with each other is our greatest gift and that just can't be wrapped.
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This year, I'm only giving out gifts to the little kids in our family. They are really the only ones who get the real joy out of presents anyway. None of us adults really need anything.

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