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PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP!! i hope.....

 
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PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP!! i hope.....
This email just hit the net... and honestly i think its about time regular ppl/sheep start seeing things for what they really are!

The email subject was "Conspiracy Theory" lol... fitting i guess!


TUE NOV 13, 2012 AT 12:33 PM PST
Jill Kelley (Khawam). The Lebanese Mata Hari?
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OK, this is getting weird. If Jill Kelley was not in the employ of a foreign intelligence service then the world's spy agencies have collectively suffered a dereliction of duty.
As we know today, General Petraus's successor in Afghanistan is a man named General John Allen who also happens to be in line for promotion to Commander of the United State European Command and Supreme Allied Commander, Europe.
It probably goes without saying that both General Petraus of the CIA and General Allen would be top targets for foreign intelligence operations -- especially by countries in the Middle East. Knowing details of US actions there would be of benefit to many countries; some allies, some nominal allies and some considered to be enemies.
The fact that socialite Jill Kelley's maiden name is Khawam and that she was born in Lebanon to Maronite Christian parents should raise eyebrows a bit. (Note that the Maronite Christians were allies of Israel in the Lebanese Civil War/Lebanon invasion.) The fact that she and her husband were willing to go into debt to throw lavish parties for high level officers who are involved in the Middle East should make even the most resolute anti-CTers among us pause. The further fact that she is identified as an unofficial liason between top American Generals and unspecified Middle Eastern contacts, well...
Detail past the secret symbol.
This is the source article. [link to www.washingtonpost.com]
Anybody who reads the history of previous intelligence/counterintelligence operations will note a few things that are of concern. It is pretty strange for a US General involved in Afghanistan to be exchanging "thousands of emails" with a civilian woman who is not his wife and who has no official duties whatsoever.
Jill Kelley, a Tampa resident who poured her energies into throwing lavish parties for and hobnobbing with area military brass, is now linked to two of the nation’s top commanders in a fast-moving scandal.
In recent years, Kelley and her husband, Scott, had appointed themselves ad hoc social ambassadors for military personnel at nearby MacDill Air Force Base, just a stone’s throw from the Kelleys’ mansion on Bayshore Boulevard.

The parties were how Jill and Scott Kelley eventually became friends with Holly and David Petraeus. They were also how Kelley came to be in regular contact with Allen. Both generals served as the top officers at the U.S. Central Command, based at MacDill
Kelley and her twin sister, Natalie Khawam, often went shopping and out to lunch with Holly Petraeus, particularly when her husband was stationed in Afghanistan, the friends said.
Access. This woman was well positioned to interact with top US brass in the Middle East. Although by no means conclusive, why would a surgeon and his wife buy a very expensive house near a military base and immediately throw themselves into cultivating relationships with the top brass? The surgeon does not appear to be particulary wealthy, well respected but working for a University clinic. If you have family in the medical field you know oncologists are not particularly well-paid.
The social galas seemed to spare no expense, guests said, and often featured copious buffets, valet parking, string quartets, as well as premium cigars and champagne. While they were throwing glamorous parties, the Kelleys racked up substantial debt, prompting banks to initiate foreclosure proceedings on two properties
Motivation. The oldest motivation for espionage is money. People in debt with access to secrets are the greatest risk.
Khawam said that quality stemmed from the Catholic family’s persecution in their native Lebanon, when Jill, David and Natalie were small children and their parents eventually fled to the United States. All three built productive new lives in America, with both David and Natalie becoming lawyers.
Connections. These people are essentially foreign nationals which is no crime or sin, but their aggressive attempt to get access to top military personel certainly should have raised a warning bell in both Petraus's and Allen's minds (or the minds of their staff.) Oh wait...
A military officer who is a former member of Petraeus’s staff said Kelley was a “self-appointed” go-between for Central Command officers with Lebanese and other Middle Eastern government officials. She was a fixture at social and charity events involving Central Command officials in Tampa. The officer said Kelley’s presence was often a bit puzzling to Petraeus’s staff, but the officer said there was never any indication that her relationship with the general was anything more than social.
Opportunity. Somehow this woman's role has morphed from socialite to "go-between" for CC officers and Middle Eastern government officials. How one goes from partying in Florida to arranging our, um, affairs with other nations is a bit of a puzzle. Did she accept "gifts" from Middle Eastern government officials for arranging access? It is not a large step from that to active espionage.
“She is so gracious, so lovely,” he said. “She’s one of those people — she walks in the room, and the room lights up.”
Ability. Or maybe not such a puzzle.
Our military men are not thinking with the appropriate parts of their anatomy.
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Re: PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP!! i hope.....
Waking up...here? They still think their votes counted....
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Waking up...here? They still think their votes counted....
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True! but it's very hard convincing these sheep of anything so this is just a hopeful post! lol
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Obama: "The best is yet to come" Really?

By Alan Hart
Posted on 13. Nov, 2012

When President Obama tried to get a real Middle East peace process going by calling on Israel to halt its illegal settlement activity and his “Yes, we can” became “No, we can’t”, I dared to invest some hope in the idea that in a second term he would use the leverage all presidents have to oblige Israel to end its defiance of international law and be serious about peace on terms the Palestinians could accept. And that investment was not the consequence of mere wishful thinking on my part.

There were two main reasons for my cautious optimism.

The first was (and is today even more so) in the fact that behind closed doors in Washington D.C. top military and security people are completely aware that it’s no longer in America’s own best interests to go on supporting the Zionist (not Jewish) state right or wrong.

The second was my knowledge from sources I trust that Obama has always understood that without an acceptable measure of justice for the Palestinians there could be no end to the conflict, only catastrophe for all. When he was preparing for his first run for the White House, he told a close American-Palestinian friend not to expect too much from him in his first term but to be optimistic about what he could and would do in a second term. (I took that to mean that Obama was fully aware of a fundamental truth expressed to me by former President Carter. As I have stated in previous articles, he said that any American president has only two windows of opportunity to take on the Zionist lobby, the second window being the last year of his second term – i.e. after the mid-term elections of the second term).

Today there is a third reason for cautious optimism. It was summed up in a Ha-aretz headline over an article by Akiva Eldar on 12 November – American Jews are giving up on Israel.

His opening two paragraphs were the following:
The most worrying news that came out of the U.S. presidential elections was that American Jews seem to have lost interest in Israel. Just 10 percent of American-Jewish voters said Israel was their highest priority when they went to the polls, according to a recent exit poll conducted by the pro-peace Israel lobby J Street. Nine out of 10 said domestic issues like job rates and health care were their top concerns. This is despite the fact that the Republicans and Jewish activists, many of whom are supporters of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, told countless horror stories about what they described as Barack Obama's plot to throw Israel to the Iranian wolves.

These statistics support the analysis of political commentator Peter Beinart, an associate professor at the City University of New York's Graduate School of Journalism, who argues that the ongoing occupation and the revelations of Israeli racism have distanced American Jews from Israel and from the Zionist idea.

And then there’s this. For a recent study two researchers from the California State University and the Hebrew Union College asked young American Jews whether they would regard Israel’s destruction as a personal tragedy. Fifty percent said they would not.

In a commentary on this finding for the Connecticut edition of the Jewish Ledger, Eric Mandel (a supporter of Israel right or wrong) asked why young American Jews do not feel connected to Israel. His answer included this:
“One explanation is that many young American Jews feel that Zionism conflicts with their liberal values. Raised on the ideal of universalism and exposed to post-nationalist ideology on campus, they cannot grasp how a nation state of and for a particular people is not racist by definition.
“More importantly, many young Jews are compelled by the Palestinian narrative of victimhood. They have internalized the belief that the underdog is always an innocent victim and holds the moral high ground, and they cannot give their allegiance to the ‘oppressor.’ The anti-Israel bias at many schools, particularly in Middle East studies departments, reinforces these negative views, as does the propaganda of anti-Israel campus movements like BDS. There is cause for concern that the American Diaspora’s support for Israel will not be inevitable.”

What all this suggests to me is that a growing number of American Jews are beginning to understand that it’s only by distancing themselves from the Zionist monster that they can best protect their own interests. As I have previously argued (it bears repeating), what we are witnessing in the world today is a rising global tide of anti-Israelism, which is NOT anti-Semitism. The danger is that it could be transformed into classical anti-Semitism if American and European Jews do not distance themselves from the Zionist state and its crimes.

It has never been a secret that the Zionist lobby in all of its manifestations does not speak for most American Jews. In recent years, for example, polls taken by various Jewish institutions and organizations have indicated that AIPAC, the dictator of American policy on all matters to do with the Israel-Palestine conflict, represents the views and wishes of not more than 25 per cent of American Jews.

Continue to read:
[link to www.opinion-maker.org]
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Doing some extra reading.... connecting some possible dots... not listening only to what the media brainwashes them with...
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This email just hit the net
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Because you're always right there on page 1 of the internet so you're always the first to see things that "just hit the net".

1rof1
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Define Waking Up
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Doing some extra reading.... connecting some possible dots... not listening only to what the media brainwashes them with...
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Still a Long way to go.

Until all pineal glands are open and in unison.
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definitely... i myself am unprogramming myself.. u know.. stopped eating meat for the most part, studying "secret life of plants" "art of war" and "tesla's work", and going to start yoga/meditation next week! =D I believe that they will soon see that the garbage they feed us is not only to kill us but also to block the truth from being seen. I am focusing on myself and making sure the energy i put out is the same i want to receive... hard process but it start within yourself, right Bickle?
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This email just hit the net
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Because you're always right there on page 1 of the internet so you're always the first to see things that "just hit the net".

1rof1
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make fun if thats what makes u happy! i was going to put the source of where i got it, but thought about possible legal problems if i disclosed where i found it! lol
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11/14/2012 05:27 PM
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Waking up...here? They still think their votes counted....
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True! but it's very hard convincing these sheep of anything so this is just a hopeful post! lol
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Hope was lost with the fraudulent outcome of the last election.
...before Nov 6th was the time to do something.


USEFUL IDIOTS only realize they have been USEFUL IDIOTS after it's too late....hence the terminology.

whatever
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This email just hit the net
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Because you're always right there on page 1 of the internet so you're always the first to see things that "just hit the net".

1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610727


make fun if thats what makes u happy! i was going to put the source of where i got it, but thought about possible legal problems if i disclosed where i found it! lol
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It's cool mate, I'm not detracting from the substance of your post, I just find it funny when people assume something just happened because it's the first time they saw it.
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11/14/2012 05:36 PM
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Just trust it. Sometimes things come to us that seem unlucky or strange, but they were completely to our benefit from the beginning.
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11/14/2012 05:41 PM
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Waking up...here? They still think their votes counted....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27682197


True! but it's very hard convincing these sheep of anything so this is just a hopeful post! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27700889


Hope was lost with the fraudulent outcome of the last election.
...before Nov 6th was the time to do something.


USEFUL IDIOTS only realize they have been USEFUL IDIOTS after it's too late....hence the terminology.

whatever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7702124


It is sad that you still think even if the election would have turned out differently that things would or could have changed. Either way the USA is doomed... from the crap they feed our bodies to the crap they feed our brains... if we do not unprogram from the system we are all doomed! What would any president offer you personally for HOPE? Nothing for me, i don't partake in the elections... If your government cared about you or anyone for that matter they would not ROB THE POOR to feed the RICH... PERIOD!

"When you vote, you not only cast a paper ballot; you confirm that you approve of the system and those who run it - corruption and all"
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11/14/2012 05:45 PM
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Trust me, people are not waking up. It's every man for himself.

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