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A core belief in gnosticism is that the original creator was put to sleep...in gnostic scripture this is related to adam being put into a deep sleep, but the term adam does not refer to a being called adam, but to an idea, a principle.. it also does have a literal meaning, as in the beginning there was clarity and bliss, but this was put to sleep. Those in creation at this point were subjected to great tribulation and then forced into a deep sleep. The original soul was cut off from her spirit......this is where hell came about. Not some place of fire and brimstone as some christians would spew at you, but more of a cycle of life. It is interesting that in judaism there is no belief in hell, but there is belief in an adversary. This creation of satan being against us is another illusion. Satan is no enemy. Satan was created as a pawn to shift blame. Hell came about when we were put to sleep, in a state of death... rebirthing cycle after cycle in a state of forgetfullness and dormancy. But once again, not some place of fire and brimstone that the catholic church speaks of. It is more of an autopilot to life. This is why in buddhism a core teaching is to remove yourself from suffering and break free from the cycle of rebirth..this does not mean that rebirth cannot take place again, one can choose to be reborn again here on earth willingly, while already being free (bodhisattva); but if you are here and you did not choose to be here then you were put here in that way in the first place. You were sentenced to hell.. when hell doesnt even exist. This is why jesus spoke of the kingdom of heaven being right here on earth. One just has to have the eyes to see. BUT, how can one have the eyes to see when they are disconnected from their very essence... a sleeping spirit cannot direct the boddy vessel, however the living ALL SOUL can call the spirit back to itself, waking it up. Breaking it free from its own death and false illusions.

This is why in gnostcism the world around us is tainted and unnatural. We are living amongst an unnatural state of being. Thus when one breaks free from the unnatural life around us, one can connect with the ALL SOUL, and restore their spirit to its natural state. Once this occures the deep sleep is lifted and the spirit is awake again. This process is a long one and can be quite traumatic. When the spirit wakes up and realizes it is more than just a human with a name, that its whole life it has been living in a state of death, and now is alive again.. it takes time to get re-aquainted. It can be scary and uneasy.. sourrounded by death. But this is not death in terms of dead bodies and ghosts and demons etc.. because those things are all part of this false unnatural system, and in true logic, true reality, do not exist and are only an illusion. It is death in terms of spirit. Once one becomes alive again in spirit, they sense the entrapment taking place all around them. Literally, spirits are trapped within thier vessels..not even aware that they are in existence...


This is where the christ comes into play.

Christ restores the spirit and soul. The very energy that is alive and present in the universe stems from this free flowing life giving water that is christ. Once we become awakened again, we realize we are living this perpetual dance.. given to us through christ. I am able to connect with my soul again because christ has given me this creation to re-aquaint myself with her. This is for everyone to do, not just my own. Jealous parties please remove yourself.

Where does islam come into play?

Islam = surrender...

I AM willing to surrender my carnal construction.. learn from it.. and evolve it into my true SELF - sprit mind.

surrender to the circumstances.. surrender to the dark... surrender to the misunderstanding, and commiting yourself to a cause, to allah.. to ONE (allah translates to one). To me, that ONE is the ALL SOUL...

Granted, Mohamed was mislead, was decieved, but his purpose remains just. What he was trying to accomplish is a great thing, the deeper meaning behind his religion is what intrigues me. Why dont one of you try acting as a prophet to save a group of people. Being subjected to what he was subjected to, it is very hard to discern sometimes. IT IS NO EASY TASK. Great people have come from the muslim faith. All of this stems from Christ.


This is why Christian scripture and muslim scripture speaks of the man you call jesus as being the messiah. The messiah sets his people free. The humans. But another core teaching is that there is another messiah inside of us, this is what jesus spoke of.. NOT HIMSELF as being the messiah, but Christ in itself. This is the messiah of the jewish people. It is a very feminine messiah.



furthermore.. buddha is the shit.
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you were going on pretty well there until you said budha was the shit. that alone shows you don' t really know what you're talking about.
i understand the gnostic teachings and have read an account of how they originated and from what, mainly the other mystery schools before gnosticism. now, budhism is only another way of trying to explain the same thing. have you actually ever been there? there is no place, no principle, no recitation of dogma. life, indeed all life, is becoming. so how can you say that budhism is the shit?
when you say it is the shit, then you are what? you are apart from it? really? and where do you stand apart from it? be still, and know god.
anyway. budhism is only an attempt to explain the unexplainable.
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or is this just some form of slang that i have misunderstood? you said budha is the shit, not budha is shit. idk but,
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you were going on pretty well there until you said budha was the shit. that alone shows you don' t really know what you're talking about.
i understand the gnostic teachings and have read an account of how they originated and from what, mainly the other mystery schools before gnosticism. now, budhism is only another way of trying to explain the same thing. have you actually ever been there? there is no place, no principle, no recitation of dogma. life, indeed all life, is becoming. so how can you say that budhism is the shit?
when you say it is the shit, then you are what? you are apart from it? really? and where do you stand apart from it? be still, and know god.
anyway. budhism is only an attempt to explain the unexplainable.
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how did i ever say i was apart from it?

buddha, the man,Siddhartha Gautama, is the shit

i stand by my statement.

if you really battle within the forces of the mind, you would know buddha is the shit.
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or is this just some form of slang that i have misunderstood? you said budha is the shit, not budha is shit. idk but,
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you are wise.

you made great points

but you did mis understand me

saying buddha is the shit is saying buddha is a great guy with great teachings...

not as in shit..

sorry for confusion

tootles.
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i let my ego get in the way sometimes sorry
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i let my ego get in the way sometimes sorry
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no, it's wonderful to hear from someone that knows, too. i later realized, wait a minute, so, good post
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i let my ego get in the way sometimes sorry
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no, it's wonderful to hear from someone that knows, too. i later realized, wait a minute, so, good post
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A core belief in gnosticism is that the original creator was put to sleep...in gnostic scripture this is related to adam being put into a deep sleep, but the term adam does not refer to a being called adam, but to an idea, a principle.. it also does have a literal meaning, as in the beginning there was clarity and bliss, but this was put to sleep. Those in creation at this point were subjected to great tribulation and then forced into a deep sleep. The original soul was cut off from her spirit......this is where hell came about. Not some place of fire and brimstone as some christians would spew at you, but more of a cycle of life. It is interesting that in judaism there is no belief in hell, but there is belief in an adversary. This creation of satan being against us is another illusion. Satan is no enemy. Satan was created as a pawn to shift blame. Hell came about when we were put to sleep, in a state of death... rebirthing cycle after cycle in a state of forgetfullness and dormancy. But once again, not some place of fire and brimstone that the catholic church speaks of. It is more of an autopilot to life. This is why in buddhism a core teaching is to remove yourself from suffering and break free from the cycle of rebirth..this does not mean that rebirth cannot take place again, one can choose to be reborn again here on earth willingly, while already being free (bodhisattva); but if you are here and you did not choose to be here then you were put here in that way in the first place. You were sentenced to hell.. when hell doesnt even exist. This is why jesus spoke of the kingdom of heaven being right here on earth. One just has to have the eyes to see. BUT, how can one have the eyes to see when they are disconnected from their very essence... a sleeping spirit cannot direct the boddy vessel, however the living ALL SOUL can call the spirit back to itself, waking it up. Breaking it free from its own death and false illusions.

This is why in gnostcism the world around us is tainted and unnatural. We are living amongst an unnatural state of being. Thus when one breaks free from the unnatural life around us, one can connect with the ALL SOUL, and restore their spirit to its natural state. Once this occures the deep sleep is lifted and the spirit is awake again. This process is a long one and can be quite traumatic. When the spirit wakes up and realizes it is more than just a human with a name, that its whole life it has been living in a state of death, and now is alive again.. it takes time to get re-aquainted. It can be scary and uneasy.. sourrounded by death. But this is not death in terms of dead bodies and ghosts and demons etc.. because those things are all part of this false unnatural system, and in true logic, true reality, do not exist and are only an illusion. It is death in terms of spirit. Once one becomes alive again in spirit, they sense the entrapment taking place all around them. Literally, spirits are trapped within thier vessels..not even aware that they are in existence...


This is where the christ comes into play.

Christ restores the spirit and soul. The very energy that is alive and present in the universe stems from this free flowing life giving water that is christ. Once we become awakened again, we realize we are living this perpetual dance.. given to us through christ. I am able to connect with my soul again because christ has given me this creation to re-aquaint myself with her. This is for everyone to do, not just my own. Jealous parties please remove yourself.

Where does islam come into play?

Islam = surrender...

I AM willing to surrender my carnal construction.. learn from it.. and evolve it into my true SELF - sprit mind.

surrender to the circumstances.. surrender to the dark... surrender to the misunderstanding, and commiting yourself to a cause, to allah.. to ONE (allah translates to one). To me, that ONE is the ALL SOUL...

Granted, Mohamed was mislead, was decieved, but his purpose remains just. What he was trying to accomplish is a great thing, the deeper meaning behind his religion is what intrigues me. Why dont one of you try acting as a prophet to save a group of people. Being subjected to what he was subjected to, it is very hard to discern sometimes. IT IS NO EASY TASK. Great people have come from the muslim faith. All of this stems from Christ.


This is why Christian scripture and muslim scripture speaks of the man you call jesus as being the messiah. The messiah sets his people free. The humans. But another core teaching is that there is another messiah inside of us, this is what jesus spoke of.. NOT HIMSELF as being the messiah, but Christ in itself. This is the messiah of the jewish people. It is a very feminine messiah.



furthermore.. buddha is the shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431



I have a problem right at the beginning,
if he was the creator, who put him to sleep?
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A core belief in gnosticism is that the original creator was put to sleep...in gnostic scripture this is related to adam being put into a deep sleep, but the term adam does not refer to a being called adam, but to an idea, a principle.. it also does have a literal meaning, as in the beginning there was clarity and bliss, but this was put to sleep. Those in creation at this point were subjected to great tribulation and then forced into a deep sleep. The original soul was cut off from her spirit......this is where hell came about. Not some place of fire and brimstone as some christians would spew at you, but more of a cycle of life. It is interesting that in judaism there is no belief in hell, but there is belief in an adversary. This creation of satan being against us is another illusion. Satan is no enemy. Satan was created as a pawn to shift blame. Hell came about when we were put to sleep, in a state of death... rebirthing cycle after cycle in a state of forgetfullness and dormancy. But once again, not some place of fire and brimstone that the catholic church speaks of. It is more of an autopilot to life. This is why in buddhism a core teaching is to remove yourself from suffering and break free from the cycle of rebirth..this does not mean that rebirth cannot take place again, one can choose to be reborn again here on earth willingly, while already being free (bodhisattva); but if you are here and you did not choose to be here then you were put here in that way in the first place. You were sentenced to hell.. when hell doesnt even exist. This is why jesus spoke of the kingdom of heaven being right here on earth. One just has to have the eyes to see. BUT, how can one have the eyes to see when they are disconnected from their very essence... a sleeping spirit cannot direct the boddy vessel, however the living ALL SOUL can call the spirit back to itself, waking it up. Breaking it free from its own death and false illusions.

This is why in gnostcism the world around us is tainted and unnatural. We are living amongst an unnatural state of being. Thus when one breaks free from the unnatural life around us, one can connect with the ALL SOUL, and restore their spirit to its natural state. Once this occures the deep sleep is lifted and the spirit is awake again. This process is a long one and can be quite traumatic. When the spirit wakes up and realizes it is more than just a human with a name, that its whole life it has been living in a state of death, and now is alive again.. it takes time to get re-aquainted. It can be scary and uneasy.. sourrounded by death. But this is not death in terms of dead bodies and ghosts and demons etc.. because those things are all part of this false unnatural system, and in true logic, true reality, do not exist and are only an illusion. It is death in terms of spirit. Once one becomes alive again in spirit, they sense the entrapment taking place all around them. Literally, spirits are trapped within thier vessels..not even aware that they are in existence...


This is where the christ comes into play.

Christ restores the spirit and soul. The very energy that is alive and present in the universe stems from this free flowing life giving water that is christ. Once we become awakened again, we realize we are living this perpetual dance.. given to us through christ. I am able to connect with my soul again because christ has given me this creation to re-aquaint myself with her. This is for everyone to do, not just my own. Jealous parties please remove yourself.

Where does islam come into play?

Islam = surrender...

I AM willing to surrender my carnal construction.. learn from it.. and evolve it into my true SELF - sprit mind.

surrender to the circumstances.. surrender to the dark... surrender to the misunderstanding, and commiting yourself to a cause, to allah.. to ONE (allah translates to one). To me, that ONE is the ALL SOUL...

Granted, Mohamed was mislead, was decieved, but his purpose remains just. What he was trying to accomplish is a great thing, the deeper meaning behind his religion is what intrigues me. Why dont one of you try acting as a prophet to save a group of people. Being subjected to what he was subjected to, it is very hard to discern sometimes. IT IS NO EASY TASK. Great people have come from the muslim faith. All of this stems from Christ.


This is why Christian scripture and muslim scripture speaks of the man you call jesus as being the messiah. The messiah sets his people free. The humans. But another core teaching is that there is another messiah inside of us, this is what jesus spoke of.. NOT HIMSELF as being the messiah, but Christ in itself. This is the messiah of the jewish people. It is a very feminine messiah.



furthermore.. buddha is the shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431



I have a problem right at the beginning,
if he was the creator, who put him to sleep?
 Quoting: K.Kool


thats the mystery.

also, i used adam as a reference, but to me, from my experience, the creator is she.

who put her to sleep

did she put herself to sleep?

why?

even she is having a hard time remembering
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no more sleep, everyone is awake now
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no more sleep, everyone is awake now
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everyone that matters ;)

OH I AM SO MEAN.
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Re: Gnostic Take on Spirit Awakenings...
A core belief in gnosticism is that the original creator was put to sleep...in gnostic scripture this is related to adam being put into a deep sleep, but the term adam does not refer to a being called adam, but to an idea, a principle.. it also does have a literal meaning, as in the beginning there was clarity and bliss, but this was put to sleep. Those in creation at this point were subjected to great tribulation and then forced into a deep sleep. The original soul was cut off from her spirit......this is where hell came about. Not some place of fire and brimstone as some christians would spew at you, but more of a cycle of life. It is interesting that in judaism there is no belief in hell, but there is belief in an adversary. This creation of satan being against us is another illusion. Satan is no enemy. Satan was created as a pawn to shift blame. Hell came about when we were put to sleep, in a state of death... rebirthing cycle after cycle in a state of forgetfullness and dormancy. But once again, not some place of fire and brimstone that the catholic church speaks of. It is more of an autopilot to life. This is why in buddhism a core teaching is to remove yourself from suffering and break free from the cycle of rebirth..this does not mean that rebirth cannot take place again, one can choose to be reborn again here on earth willingly, while already being free (bodhisattva); but if you are here and you did not choose to be here then you were put here in that way in the first place. You were sentenced to hell.. when hell doesnt even exist. This is why jesus spoke of the kingdom of heaven being right here on earth. One just has to have the eyes to see. BUT, how can one have the eyes to see when they are disconnected from their very essence... a sleeping spirit cannot direct the boddy vessel, however the living ALL SOUL can call the spirit back to itself, waking it up. Breaking it free from its own death and false illusions.

This is why in gnostcism the world around us is tainted and unnatural. We are living amongst an unnatural state of being. Thus when one breaks free from the unnatural life around us, one can connect with the ALL SOUL, and restore their spirit to its natural state. Once this occures the deep sleep is lifted and the spirit is awake again. This process is a long one and can be quite traumatic. When the spirit wakes up and realizes it is more than just a human with a name, that its whole life it has been living in a state of death, and now is alive again.. it takes time to get re-aquainted. It can be scary and uneasy.. sourrounded by death. But this is not death in terms of dead bodies and ghosts and demons etc.. because those things are all part of this false unnatural system, and in true logic, true reality, do not exist and are only an illusion. It is death in terms of spirit. Once one becomes alive again in spirit, they sense the entrapment taking place all around them. Literally, spirits are trapped within thier vessels..not even aware that they are in existence...


This is where the christ comes into play.

Christ restores the spirit and soul. The very energy that is alive and present in the universe stems from this free flowing life giving water that is christ. Once we become awakened again, we realize we are living this perpetual dance.. given to us through christ. I am able to connect with my soul again because christ has given me this creation to re-aquaint myself with her. This is for everyone to do, not just my own. Jealous parties please remove yourself.

Where does islam come into play?

Islam = surrender...

I AM willing to surrender my carnal construction.. learn from it.. and evolve it into my true SELF - sprit mind.

surrender to the circumstances.. surrender to the dark... surrender to the misunderstanding, and commiting yourself to a cause, to allah.. to ONE (allah translates to one). To me, that ONE is the ALL SOUL...

Granted, Mohamed was mislead, was decieved, but his purpose remains just. What he was trying to accomplish is a great thing, the deeper meaning behind his religion is what intrigues me. Why dont one of you try acting as a prophet to save a group of people. Being subjected to what he was subjected to, it is very hard to discern sometimes. IT IS NO EASY TASK. Great people have come from the muslim faith. All of this stems from Christ.


This is why Christian scripture and muslim scripture speaks of the man you call jesus as being the messiah. The messiah sets his people free. The humans. But another core teaching is that there is another messiah inside of us, this is what jesus spoke of.. NOT HIMSELF as being the messiah, but Christ in itself. This is the messiah of the jewish people. It is a very feminine messiah.



furthermore.. buddha is the shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431



I have a problem right at the beginning,
if he was the creator, who put him to sleep?
 Quoting: K.Kool


thats the mystery.

also, i used adam as a reference, but to me, from my experience, the creator is she.

who put her to sleep

did she put herself to sleep?

why?

even she is having a hard time remembering
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431





Hahaha, no mystery, just plainly illogical.

Think about it, the Creator of the Universe falls asleep for no reason, what was he/she tired?

LOL.
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come on,,,,, if you want to understand first understand you will never unerstand. then, also you should try not to visualize or attempt to frame the question is human terms. like male and female. it's more of a phenomena, a pulsing, a force, a primeval force. so for instance, something that is always and forever. something that is unfathomable. that is god. not a person, not a a thing, and not something that can be understood. now, what is she, to you? receiving and accepting? acknowledging and understanding? truth and gentleness and compassion, intrinsic wholeness, belonging and giving, birthing and originating?
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you can nearly have all of the pieces, but if your belief is still entrained by one wrong piece of information then you remain bound to illusion, which means you will be integrated into the One. as far as I can tell, you are like so many who remain part of the Illusion and irrelevant to the journey as I recognize that now. do not try to usher me into misdirection ghost.
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you can nearly have all of the pieces, but if your belief is still entrained by one wrong piece of information then you remain bound to illusion, which means you will be integrated into the One. as far as I can tell, you are like so many who remain part of the Illusion and irrelevant to the journey as I recognize that now. do not try to usher me into misdirection ghost.
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how would you state it then?
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A core belief in gnosticism is that the original creator was put to sleep...in gnostic scripture this is related to adam being put into a deep sleep, but the term adam does not refer to a being called adam, but to an idea, a principle.. it also does have a literal meaning, as in the beginning there was clarity and bliss, but this was put to sleep. Those in creation at this point were subjected to great tribulation and then forced into a deep sleep. The original soul was cut off from her spirit......this is where hell came about. Not some place of fire and brimstone as some christians would spew at you, but more of a cycle of life. It is interesting that in judaism there is no belief in hell, but there is belief in an adversary. This creation of satan being against us is another illusion. Satan is no enemy. Satan was created as a pawn to shift blame. Hell came about when we were put to sleep, in a state of death... rebirthing cycle after cycle in a state of forgetfullness and dormancy. But once again, not some place of fire and brimstone that the catholic church speaks of. It is more of an autopilot to life. This is why in buddhism a core teaching is to remove yourself from suffering and break free from the cycle of rebirth..this does not mean that rebirth cannot take place again, one can choose to be reborn again here on earth willingly, while already being free (bodhisattva); but if you are here and you did not choose to be here then you were put here in that way in the first place. You were sentenced to hell.. when hell doesnt even exist. This is why jesus spoke of the kingdom of heaven being right here on earth. One just has to have the eyes to see. BUT, how can one have the eyes to see when they are disconnected from their very essence... a sleeping spirit cannot direct the boddy vessel, however the living ALL SOUL can call the spirit back to itself, waking it up. Breaking it free from its own death and false illusions.

This is why in gnostcism the world around us is tainted and unnatural. We are living amongst an unnatural state of being. Thus when one breaks free from the unnatural life around us, one can connect with the ALL SOUL, and restore their spirit to its natural state. Once this occures the deep sleep is lifted and the spirit is awake again. This process is a long one and can be quite traumatic. When the spirit wakes up and realizes it is more than just a human with a name, that its whole life it has been living in a state of death, and now is alive again.. it takes time to get re-aquainted. It can be scary and uneasy.. sourrounded by death. But this is not death in terms of dead bodies and ghosts and demons etc.. because those things are all part of this false unnatural system, and in true logic, true reality, do not exist and are only an illusion. It is death in terms of spirit. Once one becomes alive again in spirit, they sense the entrapment taking place all around them. Literally, spirits are trapped within thier vessels..not even aware that they are in existence...


This is where the christ comes into play.

Christ restores the spirit and soul. The very energy that is alive and present in the universe stems from this free flowing life giving water that is christ. Once we become awakened again, we realize we are living this perpetual dance.. given to us through christ. I am able to connect with my soul again because christ has given me this creation to re-aquaint myself with her. This is for everyone to do, not just my own. Jealous parties please remove yourself.

Where does islam come into play?

Islam = surrender...

I AM willing to surrender my carnal construction.. learn from it.. and evolve it into my true SELF - sprit mind.

surrender to the circumstances.. surrender to the dark... surrender to the misunderstanding, and commiting yourself to a cause, to allah.. to ONE (allah translates to one). To me, that ONE is the ALL SOUL...

Granted, Mohamed was mislead, was decieved, but his purpose remains just. What he was trying to accomplish is a great thing, the deeper meaning behind his religion is what intrigues me. Why dont one of you try acting as a prophet to save a group of people. Being subjected to what he was subjected to, it is very hard to discern sometimes. IT IS NO EASY TASK. Great people have come from the muslim faith. All of this stems from Christ.


This is why Christian scripture and muslim scripture speaks of the man you call jesus as being the messiah. The messiah sets his people free. The humans. But another core teaching is that there is another messiah inside of us, this is what jesus spoke of.. NOT HIMSELF as being the messiah, but Christ in itself. This is the messiah of the jewish people. It is a very feminine messiah.



furthermore.. buddha is the shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431



I have a problem right at the beginning,
if he was the creator, who put him to sleep?
 Quoting: K.Kool


thats the mystery.

also, i used adam as a reference, but to me, from my experience, the creator is she.

who put her to sleep

did she put herself to sleep?

why?

even she is having a hard time remembering
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431





Hahaha, no mystery, just plainly illogical.

Think about it, the Creator of the Universe falls asleep for no reason, what was he/she tired?

LOL.
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you act as if you know...

i agree though it is very illogical.. for such a logical rational.
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you can nearly have all of the pieces, but if your belief is still entrained by one wrong piece of information then you remain bound to illusion, which means you will be integrated into the One. as far as I can tell, you are like so many who remain part of the Illusion and irrelevant to the journey as I recognize that now. do not try to usher me into misdirection ghost.
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pay heed to no one but your self :)
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you can nearly have all of the pieces, but if your belief is still entrained by one wrong piece of information then you remain bound to illusion, which means you will be integrated into the One. as far as I can tell, you are like so many who remain part of the Illusion and irrelevant to the journey as I recognize that now. do not try to usher me into misdirection ghost.
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pay heed to no one but your self :)
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so true,
we each are offering our insights, i don't think anyone is trying to misdirect another. we come together to interact is all, now, i am very open to hearing what is the truth. integrating into the oneness, that is a good point. that seems to be the issue, just speaking for myself. it's pretty crazy. idk , i'm only trying to understand, and also hear what others say about it
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you can nearly have all of the pieces, but if your belief is still entrained by one wrong piece of information then you remain bound to illusion, which means you will be integrated into the One. as far as I can tell, you are like so many who remain part of the Illusion and irrelevant to the journey as I recognize that now. do not try to usher me into misdirection ghost.
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pay heed to no one but your self :)
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so true,
we each are offering our insights, i don't think anyone is trying to misdirect another. we come together to interact is all, now, i am very open to hearing what is the truth. integrating into the oneness, that is a good point. that seems to be the issue, just speaking for myself. it's pretty crazy. idk , i'm only trying to understand, and also hear what others say about it
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we are learning together :)
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The Apocryphon of John.

(31) And I entered into the midst of their prison which is the prison of the body. And I said, 'He who hears, let him get up from the deep sleep.' And he wept and shed tears. Bitter tears he wiped from himself and he said, 'Who is it that calls my name, and from where has this hope come to me, while I am in the chains of the prison?' And I said, 'I am the Pronoia of the pure light; I am the thinking of the virginal Spirit, who raised you up to the honored place. Arise and remember that it is you who hearkened, and follow your root, which is I, the merciful one, and guard yourself against the angels of poverty and the demons of chaos and all those who ensnare you, and beware of the deep sleep and the enclosure of the inside of Hades.'


and

The Gospel of Truth.

(28: 25) When the light shine on the terror which that person had experienced, he knows that it is nothing. Thus they were ignorant of the Father he being the one whom they did not see. Since it was terror and disturbance and instability and doubt and division, there were many illusions at work by means of these, and there were empty fictions, as if they were sunk in sleep and found themselves in disturbing dreams. Either there is a place to which they are fleeing, or without strength they come from having chased after others, or thy are involved in striking blows, or they are receiving blows themselves, or they have fallen from high places, or they take off into the air though they do not even have wings. Again, sometimes it is as if people were murderding them, though there is no one even pursuing them, or they themselves are killing their neighbors, for they have been stained with their blood. When those who are going through all these things wake up, they see nothing, they who were in the midst of all these disturbances, for they are nothing. Such is the way of those who have cast ignorance aside from them like sleep, not esteeming it as anything, nor do they esteem its works as solid things either, but they leave them behind like a dream in the night. The knowledge of the Father they value as the dawn. This is the way each one has acted, as though asleep at the time when he was ignorant. And this is the way he has come to knowledge, as if he had awakened. And Good for the man who will return and awaken. And blessed is he who has opened the eyes of the blind.
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Rather, those whom she bears will be under our charge. But let us not tell Adam, for he is not one of us. Rather let us bring a deep sleep over him. And let us instruct him in his sleep to the effect that she came from his rib, in order that his wife may obey, and he may be lord over her."
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I have a problem right at the beginning,
if he was the creator, who put him to sleep?
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His wife.

She was running her mouth so much he went to sleep to get some peace.
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Scio etiam liberales non se esse maxime liberales. Me et optimates tui, et vide, et quod ideo nos sumus kooks forte impar fortasse ultimam esse.
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I have a problem right at the beginning,
if he was the creator, who put him to sleep?
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His wife.

She was running her mouth so much he went to sleep to get some peace.
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lol
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I have a problem right at the beginning,
if he was the creator, who put him to sleep?
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His wife.

She was running her mouth so much he went to sleep to get some peace.
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tounge
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i let my ego get in the way sometimes sorry
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Slay the Black Dragon with your fierce sword, my Brother.
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'It is important to remember that later varieties and recensions of Gnostic teachings are present in virtually all transmissions of the Occult tradition in the West. Some of these later variations resemble the original model more closely than others. Clergy, members and other persons interested in the Gnostic Church often possess Martinist, Masonic, Rosicrucian, Theosophical and similar affiliations and dedications. All of these schools of thought, whether they acknowledge it or not, are related not only to each other, but by way of historical and mystical descent also to the matrix of ancient Gnosticism."
[link to gnosis.org]
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