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FatalW1shes

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Well that is union Mentality.


Duh, uh,,,,well .....uh.....

You pay is this or we will just all lose our jobs and not make anything.


If I was CEO of Hostess I'd be like fuck ya'll.


Fuck Union thugs and fuck your stupid demands. Here is where we need to be to survive. Either you agree to make this amount or we all go down.

If the Union won't budge then fuck em. Nobody will work and we can say goodbye to hostess.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Its not that the workers will not take a pay
cut, its that the company is pocketing their
pension pay and has already said they will not
be paying pensions--

[link to www.wcsh6.com]

We'll probably be saying bye to Twinkies but
I am not blaming it all on the Union either...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27227279


Yes, the union and their demands are why they are where they were.

Instead of cutting things back because of the economy, Hostess was made to pay the demands set back years ago when the economy was better and there wasn't a war against obese people.


Now their profits have shrunk to the point where they cannot survive nor pay the pensions. Businesses need to be able to breathe with the economy. Unions make it so they have to pay whether the company is profitable or not.

Best thing to do is like mentioned above. Close and re-open without a union and put the people that want to work back to work.
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Well on a good note there will be less fat people around.
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right out of Atlas Shrugged. I hope all companies do this and teach the bottom feeders a lesson.
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Well on a good note there will be less fat people around.
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Ha Ha
Twinkies eaters are too big to fail.
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They were already in distress...
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Unions are nazi communists in nature - every last one of them. Once they close shop and reopen in a right-to-work State they will no longer be in distress.

"The National Socialist German Workers' Party, commonly known in English as the Nazi Party, was a political party in Germany between 1920 and 1945. Its predecessor, the German Workers' Party (DAP), existed from 1919 to 1920"
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This is the DOOM we've all been fearing!

No more Twinkies and Ding Dongs!


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So if you have given up pay twice and the company wants you to give up pay a third time. Even though the higher ups have given up nothing you are a "THUG".

Union workers are contracted employees. Say yes or say no to the contract. How can that be that hard.
If you have a contract does that make you a "THUG"?


I'm Union employee! I consider myself a conservative guy.
A gun lover, a lover of my savior.

My contract allows for atleast someone to say something when double standards are implemeted because of my race or my gender. I work alot of 16 hour days. My friends work those and holidays. We have a contract to protect the working conditions and the amount of pay we recieve. I've been in manufacturing for 13 years. There's always someone looking to push the limits of myself and my family. My contract helps me to be protected.

There's alot of people drinking the Koolaid on Unions and their contracts. Remember the people telling you alot of this stuff they themselves work on a contract.
I've read some of Rush Limbaugh's books, but even he has a contract am I right? (no offense Rush luvya!)

alot of things about unions are true alot are not.
The war against Union employees are just another tool of control.
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The whole purpose of unions was for fair wages and safe working conditions. My husband was a route driver years ago and had to belong to the union. They did nothing for his poor working conditions. A delivery truck with no heat in subzero temps and holes in the floor of a truck that kept breaking down. huffy
As for Hostess, I could care less. I know what goes into that crap. poop
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too bad. i feel sorry for a company that can make a product that outlives the company. twinkies will become the new gold bar
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LOL!

I don't know about gold bar, but I bet they make decent insulation for cars, refrigerators and such.
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Holy cow! Here is a prime example of the power of the union and this president over Corporate America. Our economy is toast.

Observing rules when posting from outside sources:
"BIDDEFORD, Maine —
Hostess Brands announced on Wednesday that it will file a motion with a bankruptcy court to liquidate the entire company if striking employees don't return to work by Thursday at 5 p.m.

The Bakery, Confectionary, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers Union has been on strike since last Friday."


Read more: [link to www.wmtw.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 989102


Maine is an UBER Liberal blue state.....let it fail.
They have no one to blame but themselves.

cheer
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NOT ALL OF US HERE ARE BLUE.

Last Edited by Hawgzilla on 11/14/2012 07:34 PM
Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now.
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So if you have given up pay twice and the company wants you to give up pay a third time. Even though the higher ups have given up nothing you are a "THUG".

Union workers are contracted employees. Say yes or say no to the contract. How can that be that hard.
If you have a contract does that make you a "THUG"?


I'm Union employee! I consider myself a conservative guy.
A gun lover, a lover of my savior.

My contract allows for atleast someone to say something when double standards are implemeted because of my race or my gender. I work alot of 16 hour days. My friends work those and holidays. We have a contract to protect the working conditions and the amount of pay we recieve. I've been in manufacturing for 13 years. There's always someone looking to push the limits of myself and my family. My contract helps me to be protected.

There's alot of people drinking the Koolaid on Unions and their contracts. Remember the people telling you alot of this stuff they themselves work on a contract.
I've read some of Rush Limbaugh's books, but even he has a contract am I right? (no offense Rush luvya!)

alot of things about unions are true alot are not.
The war against Union employees are just another tool of control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27758970


Yes you are a fucking thug ! Say yes or no ? laugh

You lying sack of shit. You and I both know if they said no you leeches will try to suck the life out of everything around you through thuggery !
You fuckers will stand in front of the factories, intimidate new "none union" employee's, damage shit and inflate a blow up rat whore. So dont lie and act like an innocent little bitch..............................you bitch !

What a lyin little motha fucka you are ! Acting like the little innocent princess !! 1rof1

granny
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When a union carpenter in Chicago costs $208,000.00 a year to employ (Just costs no profit just hard costs) you know we have a problem.

This can't be sustained for to long !
[/quote

Why should carpententers work cheaper than lawyers and engineers? Id rathe see carpenters paid good wages so good intelligent men can afford to be carpenters than skimp on their wages and have carpentry work done by idiots who fall off scaffoldings, endanger each other and do shoddy work. You get what you pay for.
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If they are prepared to move that fast they must be at deaths door in a business context. Where is the communication between the union and the management, or how is there value to the (soon to retire) management in blaming the shutdown on the union? Or, how stupid is the union?
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make way for change
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I worked for a small family owned business for many years. Before I started working for them all of their employees were trying to make it a union shop (they manufactured cutting tools)

Instead of letting the union in my boss fired each and every employee. There were probably 15 guys working for them at the time.

Just an aside but Hostess cakes tasted a lot better when I was a kid in the 60's.
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If they close and I can't get my Twinkie I will personally beat the shit out of each and every one of those lazy ass union workers!
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When a union carpenter in Chicago costs $208,000.00 a year to employ (Just costs no profit just hard costs) you know we have a problem.

This can't be sustained for to long !
[/quote

Why should carpententers work cheaper than lawyers and engineers? Id rathe see carpenters paid good wages so good intelligent men can afford to be carpenters than skimp on their wages and have carpentry work done by idiots who fall off scaffoldings, endanger each other and do shoddy work. You get what you pay for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17694439



You have to be a union thug because "only" union thugs use this argument "skimp on their wages and have carpentry work done by idiots who fall off scaffoldings, endanger each other and do shoddy work".
Only a union thug uses this kind of reasoning in thier self indulging, greedy entitled little brains.

Sniffed you out like the little spoiled bitch you are !
You see, I can smell a union whore a mile away !

and you reek son !
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So if you have given up pay twice and the company wants you to give up pay a third time. Even though the higher ups have given up nothing you are a "THUG".

Union workers are contracted employees. Say yes or say no to the contract. How can that be that hard.
If you have a contract does that make you a "THUG"?


I'm Union employee! I consider myself a conservative guy.
A gun lover, a lover of my savior.

My contract allows for atleast someone to say something when double standards are implemeted because of my race or my gender. I work alot of 16 hour days. My friends work those and holidays. We have a contract to protect the working conditions and the amount of pay we recieve. I've been in manufacturing for 13 years. There's always someone looking to push the limits of myself and my family. My contract helps me to be protected.

There's alot of people drinking the Koolaid on Unions and their contracts. Remember the people telling you alot of this stuff they themselves work on a contract.
I've read some of Rush Limbaugh's books, but even he has a contract am I right? (no offense Rush luvya!)

alot of things about unions are true alot are not.
The war against Union employees are just another tool of control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27758970


Yes you are a fucking thug ! Say yes or no ? laugh

You lying sack of shit. You and I both know if they said no you leeches will try to suck the life out of everything around you through thuggery !
You fuckers will stand in front of the factories, intimidate new "none union" employee's, damage shit and inflate a blow up rat whore. So dont lie and act like an innocent little bitch..............................you bitch !

What a lyin little motha fucka you are ! Acting like the little innocent princess !! 1rof1

granny
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17694439


Sorry to hear this. If you relax you will find that Contracted employees have taken nothing from you. In fact the idea of a contracted employee is very "conservative" in nature. The wages and working conditons in America have been fought for long and hard. There are lot to complain about employee demands. If it needs to rest on the shoulders of some guy that busts ass and works under a contract So Be It! I'm only saying if you have an agreement you should stand with it. If you can't you should sink with it. If you think the agreement should be broken and you should wait in the parking for work at pennies on the dollar bacause you don't know any better then I can understand your immaturity. Peace brother!
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Shit is overpriced corruption. Amazing the ingredients the earth gives for free just keeps going up in price like it's magically disappearing or something. Those workers should take their frustrations out on the family members of the executives. They all deserve it.
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The earth gives us for free?

I can see you are a stupid stinking hippie.

There is NOTHING free.
You have to WORK for it.
Do you think farmers are working their asses off
from sunrise to sunset, feeding your worthless ass,
because that's how they get their jollies?

You are an idiot who should be dropped into some
wilderness, to let "Mother Earth" take care of you.
Within a week your sorry carcass would provide
some "free" food for a pack of coyotes.
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The smell of the shills in this post seem like the one ones thathave gone about ruining the republican and democratic parties.


You losers seem to have ruined everything. I bet your real big on RFIDchip implants and agenda 21.
I would give alot to meet one of you face to face.
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Let them do what they want. Who are we to tell them anything...
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thats o.k. i don't eat 'em anymore

and i just fired up a factory filled with cupcakes to replace them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27736309


Hahah, you're a funny guy. Good luck with paying your employees with Union Wages, fool.
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Supply and demand, folks. Labor costs have nothing to do with people turning up their noses at the Ho Ho. Hostess is dying because no one wants to eat trans fats and preservatives when there are good cupcakes available at coffee shops and bakeries dotting every block even out in the suburbs.

Hostess was a thing of the seventies--when the suburbs were the far boonies with only one grocery store and healthniks were the lunatic fringe.
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Let them do what they want. Who are we to tell them anything...
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Tha's becoming more evident daily!
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Let them do what they want. Who are we to tell them anything...
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Tha's becoming more evident daily!
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Or aleast we hope!
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Company litmus test:

If the top 1% of people at the company (president, vice presidents and so on) could solve the problem by taking a pay cut, and they don't, then it isn't anyone else's problem, just greedy people at the top playing games.

Even in bankruptcy it's common for the top few to have a staggering portion of the funds under their command, personally.

So, is that the case here?
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Company litmus test:

If the top 1% of people at the company (president, vice presidents and so on) could solve the problem by taking a pay cut, and they don't, then it isn't anyone else's problem, just greedy people at the top playing games.

Even in bankruptcy it's common for the top few to have a staggering portion of the funds under their command, personally.

So, is that the case here?
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Excellent point!
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Company litmus test:

If the top 1% of people at the company (president, vice presidents and so on) could solve the problem by taking a pay cut, and they don't, then it isn't anyone else's problem, just greedy people at the top playing games.

Even in bankruptcy it's common for the top few to have a staggering portion of the funds under their command, personally.

So, is that the case here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499151


The top 1% is taking a 100% pay-cut by closing the company down, dummy.
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So if you have given up pay twice and the company wants you to give up pay a third time. Even though the higher ups have given up nothing you are a "THUG".

Union workers are contracted employees. Say yes or say no to the contract. How can that be that hard.
If you have a contract does that make you a "THUG"?


I'm Union employee! I consider myself a conservative guy.
A gun lover, a lover of my savior.

My contract allows for atleast someone to say something when double standards are implemeted because of my race or my gender. I work alot of 16 hour days. My friends work those and holidays. We have a contract to protect the working conditions and the amount of pay we recieve. I've been in manufacturing for 13 years. There's always someone looking to push the limits of myself and my family. My contract helps me to be protected.

There's alot of people drinking the Koolaid on Unions and their contracts. Remember the people telling you alot of this stuff they themselves work on a contract.
I've read some of Rush Limbaugh's books, but even he has a contract am I right? (no offense Rush luvya!)

alot of things about unions are true alot are not.
The war against Union employees are just another tool of control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27758970


Yes you are a fucking thug ! Say yes or no ? laugh

You lying sack of shit. You and I both know if they said no you leeches will try to suck the life out of everything around you through thuggery !
You fuckers will stand in front of the factories, intimidate new "none union" employee's, damage shit and inflate a blow up rat whore. So dont lie and act like an innocent little bitch..............................you bitch !

What a lyin little motha fucka you are ! Acting like the little innocent princess !! 1rof1

granny
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17694439


Sorry to hear this. If you relax you will find that Contrmanufactur acted employees have taken nothing from you. In fact the idea of a contracted employee is very "conservative" in nature. The wages and working conditons in America have been fought for long and hard. There are lot to complain about employee demands. If it needs to rest on the shoulders of some guy that busts ass and works under a contract So Be It! I'm only saying if you have an agreement you should stand with it. If you can't you should sink with it. If you think the agreement should be broken and you should wait in the parking for work at pennies on the dollar bacause you don't know any better then I can understand your immaturity. Peace brother!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27758970


Look! you are right on some levels and some you are not . The japanese maufacture execellent goods under contract. I currently own a Subaru outback and have owned a toyota corrolla. Both American manufacture a d excellent cars. I've owned a few GM's that weren't worth a shit! Quality of contract and union aren't he same all over, but don't discredit you protection under contract because of word of mouth.
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When a union carpenter in Chicago costs $208,000.00 a year to employ (Just costs no profit just hard costs) you know we have a problem.

This can't be sustained for to long !
[/quote

Why should carpententers work cheaper than lawyers and engineers? Id rathe see carpenters paid good wages so good intelligent men can afford to be carpenters than skimp on their wages and have carpentry work done by idiots who fall off scaffoldings, endanger each other and do shoddy work. You get what you pay for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17694439


Hahahaha. You're fucking kidding right?
And a Dr. should be paid as much as a Garbage collector.
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