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Hostess brands threatens to close company by Thursday if union strike won't end!

 
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I have nostalgia for knowing that crap like Twinkies and Hostess Ding Dongs still exist in grocery stores. But sugar-filled crud like that is why rates of diabetes have soared, and the greedy unions are no less shitty, so if the entire thing collapses, tough titis.
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So if you have given up pay twice and the company wants you to give up pay a third time. Even though the higher ups have given up nothing you are a "THUG".

Union workers are contracted employees. Say yes or say no to the contract. How can that be that hard.
If you have a contract does that make you a "THUG"?


I'm Union employee! I consider myself a conservative guy.
A gun lover, a lover of my savior.

My contract allows for atleast someone to say something when double standards are implemeted because of my race or my gender. I work alot of 16 hour days. My friends work those and holidays. We have a contract to protect the working conditions and the amount of pay we recieve. I've been in manufacturing for 13 years. There's always someone looking to push the limits of myself and my family. My contract helps me to be protected.

There's alot of people drinking the Koolaid on Unions and their contracts. Remember the people telling you alot of this stuff they themselves work on a contract.
I've read some of Rush Limbaugh's books, but even he has a contract am I right? (no offense Rush luvya!)

alot of things about unions are true alot are not.
The war against Union employees are just another tool of control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27758970


Yes you are a fucking thug ! Say yes or no ? laugh

You lying sack of shit. You and I both know if they said no you leeches will try to suck the life out of everything around you through thuggery !
You fuckers will stand in front of the factories, intimidate new "none union" employee's, damage shit and inflate a blow up rat whore. So dont lie and act like an innocent little bitch..............................you bitch !

What a lyin little motha fucka you are ! Acting like the little innocent princess !! 1rof1

granny
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Sorry Let me not forget! Yes! you should expect that I'm an American don't fuck with my livelyhood!


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Have you beat a uion worker today? You should!
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I have nostalgia for knowing that crap like Twinkies and Hostess Ding Dongs still exist in grocery stores. But sugar-filled crud like that is why rates of diabetes have soared, and the greedy unions are no less shitty, so if the entire thing collapses, tough titis.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27627903


The sugar in them is not the problem... naughty

...the chemical flavorings, chemical sweeteners, chemical colorings...and GMO raw products they use ARE the problem.
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11/14/2012 08:32 PM
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Holy cow! Here is a prime example of the power of the union and this president over Corporate America. Our economy is toast.

Observing rules when posting from outside sources:
"BIDDEFORD, Maine —
Hostess Brands announced on Wednesday that it will file a motion with a bankruptcy court to liquidate the entire company if striking employees don't return to work by Thursday at 5 p.m.

The Bakery, Confectionary, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers Union has been on strike since last Friday."


Read more: [link to www.wmtw.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 989102


No. Hostess threatens bankruptcy everytime things don't go their way. They said the same thing a year ago..and again several months before that.

Frankly..we'd be better off without them. Their "food" is like consuming toxic waste.
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Re: Hostess brands threatens to close company by Thursday if union strike won't end!
So if you have given up pay twice and the company wants you to give up pay a third time. Even though the higher ups have given up nothing you are a "THUG".

Union workers are contracted employees. Say yes or say no to the contract. How can that be that hard.
If you have a contract does that make you a "THUG"?


I'm Union employee! I consider myself a conservative guy.
A gun lover, a lover of my savior.

My contract allows for atleast someone to say something when double standards are implemeted because of my race or my gender. I work alot of 16 hour days. My friends work those and holidays. We have a contract to protect the working conditions and the amount of pay we recieve. I've been in manufacturing for 13 years. There's always someone looking to push the limits of myself and my family. My contract helps me to be protected.

There's alot of people drinking the Koolaid on Unions and their contracts. Remember the people telling you alot of this stuff they themselves work on a contract.
I've read some of Rush Limbaugh's books, but even he has a contract am I right? (no offense Rush luvya!)

alot of things about unions are true alot are not.
The war against Union employees are just another tool of control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27758970


I feel for you as many union workers just want a job - but you are held to the same standards as any pro-nObama thumper. In short - guilty by association.
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too bad. i feel sorry for a company that can make a product that outlives the company. twinkies will become the new gold bar
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Tell me what this tastes like...
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Worked on a large expansion project with a small company in the NE recently. Long term. Two years in a row the Union Electrical foreman made more than the owners of the company.
I'm a non-union engineer and I can tell you flat out myself and the owners of the company were there non-stop for essentially the duration.
The Union foreman and his guys, not so much.

Then add all the other fees the Union tacks on to the hourly rate. A total scam to enrich the Union hierarchy and pad their Democratic donation coffers.
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Company litmus test:

If the top 1% of people at the company (president, vice presidents and so on) could solve the problem by taking a pay cut, and they don't, then it isn't anyone else's problem, just greedy people at the top playing games.

Even in bankruptcy it's common for the top few to have a staggering portion of the funds under their command, personally.

So, is that the case here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499151


The top 1% is taking a 100% pay-cut by closing the company down, dummy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25825617


Jealousy -thats all that it is. "I wanna have what you have - whaaa-waaahhaaaa...."

Face it isn't that what is the real difference between nObamabots and inRomneyacs?
Carshy McCarsh

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11/14/2012 08:38 PM
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Well that is union Mentality.


Duh, uh,,,,well .....uh.....

You pay is this or we will just all lose our jobs and not make anything.


If I was CEO of Hostess I'd be like fuck ya'll.


Fuck Union thugs and fuck your stupid demands. Here is where we need to be to survive. Either you agree to make this amount or we all go down.

If the Union won't budge then fuck em. Nobody will work and we can say goodbye to hostess.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Its not that the workers will not take a pay
cut, its that the company is pocketing their
pension pay and has already said they will not
be paying pensions--

[link to www.wcsh6.com]

We'll probably be saying bye to Twinkies but
I am not blaming it all on the Union either...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27227279


Yes, the union and their demands are why they are where they were.

Instead of cutting things back because of the economy, Hostess was made to pay the demands set back years ago when the economy was better and there wasn't a war against obese people.


Now their profits have shrunk to the point where they cannot survive nor pay the pensions. Businesses need to be able to breathe with the economy. Unions make it so they have to pay whether the company is profitable or not.

Best thing to do is like mentioned above. Close and re-open without a union and put the people that want to work back to work.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Which is EXACTLY what should have happened with GM, but the Dickless Wonder intervened and saved his UAW union thug mob from having to pay the price of their selfish, myopic greed.

Last Edited by Carshy McCarsh on 11/14/2012 08:38 PM
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Re: Hostess brands threatens to close company by Thursday if union strike won't end!
Worked on a large expansion project with a small company in the NE recently. Long term. Two years in a row the Union Electrical foreman made more than the owners of the company.
I'm a non-union engineer and I can tell you flat out myself and the owners of the company were there non-stop for essentially the duration.
The Union foreman and his guys, not so much.

Then add all the other fees the Union tacks on to the hourly rate. A total scam to enrich the Union hierarchy and pad their Democratic donation coffers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4330211


^ He gets it ^

clappa
Tell me what this tastes like...
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11/14/2012 08:44 PM
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good riddance - bad food!
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11/14/2012 09:12 PM
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Shut r down and BURN it
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Re: Hostess brands threatens to close company by Thursday if union strike won't end!
I have nostalgia for knowing that crap like Twinkies and Hostess Ding Dongs still exist in grocery stores. But sugar-filled crud like that is why rates of diabetes have soared, and the greedy unions are no less shitty, so if the entire thing collapses, tough titis.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27627903


The sugar in them is not the problem... naughty

...the chemical flavorings, chemical sweeteners, chemical colorings...and GMO raw products they use ARE the problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7702124


Yes, esp Aspartame

You bet those that guzzle diet pop will be diagnosed with Fibro and lupus later on.. and their diabetes getting even worse

Read up too on Gulf war syndrome and aspartame. It reads like a bio weapon horror novel.
When cases of diet pop were left in the sun, it turned into something else..

They are putting it in all kinds of crap nowadays, poisoning our kids, Found it in some popsicles and I threw the whole package away.
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11/14/2012 09:21 PM
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Re: Hostess brands threatens to close company by Thursday if union strike won't end!
All the crazy libs on here railing about how bad the food is, let em go bankrupt. People have a right to eat what they want. A twinkie every now and then isn't going to hurt anyone. Losing those jobs will hurt a lot of people.

What we are going to see over the next 4 years is loss of a lot of the remaining jobs, the ones that haven't already been driven overseas by unions and regulations.
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i just daytraded some twinkies. better than facebook.

take that facebook tards.

i gots me some emulsified no #30 glycol creation from puffed air,

you got 40 friends who fucking hate you and the cia database following you around.
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I am so glad I took measures to prepare for what is coming.
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I wish we could save most private sector unions and get rid of government unions including teacher unions.

Instead we get the opposite.

Economy's fucked.
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11/14/2012 09:25 PM
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This is all a prime example of a contracted con that everybody agreed to pay on and nobody want to agree what was agreed on nothing more nothing less. Its just the evil union worker is made to pay!
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I am so glad I took measures to prepare for what is coming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4650715


Me too good luck brother (or sister)!
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Company litmus test:

If the top 1% of people at the company (president, vice presidents and so on) could solve the problem by taking a pay cut, and they don't, then it isn't anyone else's problem, just greedy people at the top playing games.

Even in bankruptcy it's common for the top few to have a staggering portion of the funds under their command, personally.

So, is that the case here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499151


You don't fucking get it do you.

Pretty soon nobody will be working and everybody will be poor.

Will you be happy then? We will all be equal living off a government that prints money.

I guess that is what the FSA (Free Shit Army) OWS turds want.

Bring down corporate American.

I hope China invades after that and kills a shitpile of you stupid little fucks. Only then will you understand. Just before that bullet goes through your thick fucking skull.
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Shut that sum bitch down! Let the union scum go do something else.
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Yeah, I wonder how much the upper management get paid compared to the evil union workers? I'm sure they could make twinkies without a bunch of overpaid meeting jockeys getting together to plan more meetings.
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Good. Fuck twinkies. Shit is nasty.
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When a union carpenter in Chicago costs $208,000.00 a year to employ (Just costs no profit just hard costs) you know we have a problem.

This can't be sustained for to long !
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Why should carpententers work cheaper than lawyers and engineers? Id rathe see carpenters paid good wages so good intelligent men can afford to be carpenters than skimp on their wages and have carpentry work done by idiots who fall off scaffoldings, endanger each other and do shoddy work. You get what you pay for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17694439


Hahahaha. You're fucking kidding right?
And a Dr. should be paid as much as a Garbage collector.
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Seems I heard that somewhere before.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27758626


The price of something is determined by supply and demand. Wage is the price of labor. In an economy of all doctors and no garbage collectors, when the garbage starts piling up some of the doctors will become garbage collectors. If they don't charge triple their doctors rates they are fools.

Real life--UPS drivers used to make more than entry level engineers with four years of college. The reason is really simple. If the packages don't get delivered the world screeches to a halt. We need package delivery. There's always that one dumb engineering student who cries, "No fair! I have a four year degree and can't find a job pays that much!" But the job is right under his nose. He just won't take it.
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Two thumbs up for the owners. Take your money and run.
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. "

Winston Churchill
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Can't blame them.
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Shut that sum bitch down! Let the union scum go do something else.
 Quoting: MuayThai


...and hopefully learn a lesson in the process.

It's only going to get worse as time goes on.
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thats going mushroom into about 180 thousand jobs gone in collateral damage .

wonder what the average twinkie slinger was making .
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Re: Hostess brands threatens to close company by Thursday if union strike won't end!
Hostess Brands is a lot more than Twinkies. It will be a shame to see them go, and a bigger shame to see 18,500 more workers on unemployment. I hope that every union member watches this and remembers that the same thing could happen to them. The unions have become one of the largest drains on the economy, and the Marxist in Chief will probably give millions of tax dollars to the unions to "fix" the problem before a penny of unemployment is spent. Maybe the union members could go to Barry's house for Thankgiving.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Horse puckey.

Its our tip jar service economy that drains the economy. Working people spend where they earn. Big corporations do not.

Unions are just workers organizing the same way companies organize. Unions are workers incorporated.

People are nostalgic for the fifties when laboring men could support a family on union wages. Mom stayed home. The kids went to college.

No one wants to live like we did before organized labor, forced to work sixteen hour days, weekends too, earning enough for a man to feed himself. Wife and kids had to work. People who didn't own the land that produced their food were slaves, only worse than slaves. Plantars paid for their slaves or fed them and raised them. They cared if one dropped dead. Capitalists don't care if you drop dead--they probably have life insurance on you.

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