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Chip Forum Moderator  User ID: 21090171  United States11/14/2012 06:13 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Chip (OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 21090171 United States11/14/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well... the police are being trained in use of military tactics and equipment for use against civilians.. Quoting: Waterbug They gotta get some practice. True...but just for PR's sake they should be a tad more selective. When they do shit like this it's like rubbing our low status as "civilians" into our face. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
| Chip (OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 21090171 United States11/14/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How dare he! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23755636 I hope they shot his dog too the scoundrel. & let that be a lesson to anyone else who thinks about murdering a fire, combustion has rights too. Yeah...no shit. Might as well raid his house while their at it...er nevermind...IT PROBABLY CAUGHT ON FIRE!!!! Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
| Chip (OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 21090171 United States11/14/2012 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Muchas Gracias for ze PIN!! Last Edited by Chip on 11/14/2012 06:38 PM Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
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| Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States11/14/2012 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well... the police are being trained in use of military tactics and equipment for use against civilians.. Quoting: Waterbug They gotta get some practice. True...but just for PR's sake they should be a tad more selective. When they do shit like this it's like rubbing our low status as "civilians" into our face. I don't think they are worried about PR with the recent 'Homeland' legislation. Everybody is a potential terrorist. 3 year-olds.. grannys in Depends.. nuns... The pendulum has swung way to the opposite side of the box and gotten stuck there. Don't have a use for common sense, anymore. If you don't have a badge or a bullet-proof limo.... you are fair game. |
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| Chip (OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 21090171 United States11/14/2012 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well... the police are being trained in use of military tactics and equipment for use against civilians.. Quoting: Waterbug They gotta get some practice. True...but just for PR's sake they should be a tad more selective. When they do shit like this it's like rubbing our low status as "civilians" into our face. I don't think they are worried about PR with the recent 'Homeland' legislation. Everybody is a potential terrorist. 3 year-olds.. grannys in Depends.. nuns... The pendulum has swung way to the opposite side of the box and gotten stuck there. Don't have a use for common sense, anymore. If you don't have a badge or a bullet-proof limo.... you are fair game. The use of equipment is unnecessary unless the officers cannot take the "suspect" down with their bare hands. When I was a LEO that's the way it was. Other officers would call you a rookie for peppering or pulling your straight baton out unless you were in danger. Why are they so scared? Last Edited by Chip on 11/14/2012 06:55 PM Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27684437 United States11/14/2012 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The article said their law enforcement policy was to only use the tazer if "other control techniques" would likely result in a "physical confrontation" that may cause injury to the officer or person. But the officer must first give a "verbal warning" that he is going to use a taser. I have YET to see any police officer use their tazers according to this "policy". And doesn't the wording of that policy seem a little vague? If he looks like he's going to hurt himself, TAZE HIM! If the police ever do give a warning, it would probably sound something like this: "Sir, we see that you are engaging in something that could possibly cause you injury....so we are going to go ahead and GUARANTEE your injury by tazing you!" LICK THE BOOT!  |
| Anderson_G User ID: 27758723 United Kingdom11/14/2012 07:00 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How dare he! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23755636 I hope they shot his dog too the scoundrel. & let that be a lesson to anyone else who thinks about murdering a fire, combustion has rights too.  reminds me of that lad arrested for burning a poppy and putting it up on facebook then having human rightd kick of about it the tsser should be put out there in a warzone then see what he doesAnderson_G Always expect the unexpected and beware of nasty things pretending to be nice. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2712120 United States11/14/2012 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well... the police are being trained in use of military tactics and equipment for use against civilians.. Quoting: Waterbug They gotta get some practice. True...but just for PR's sake they should be a tad more selective. When they do shit like this it's like rubbing our low status as "civilians" into our face. So f'ing what??? It's not like we're going to fight back in any way. And they know it. |
| Chip (OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 21090171 United States11/14/2012 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well... the police are being trained in use of military tactics and equipment for use against civilians.. Quoting: Waterbug They gotta get some practice. True...but just for PR's sake they should be a tad more selective. When they do shit like this it's like rubbing our low status as "civilians" into our face. So f'ing what??? It's not like we're going to fight back in any way. And they know it. Hopelessness. Be careful that shit is contagious! Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
| Anderson_G User ID: 27758723 United Kingdom11/14/2012 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The article said their law enforcement policy was to only use the tazer if "other control techniques" would likely result in a "physical confrontation" that may cause injury to the officer or person. But the officer must first give a "verbal warning" that he is going to use a taser. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27684437 I have YET to see any police officer use their tazers according to this "policy". And doesn't the wording of that policy seem a little vague? If he looks like he's going to hurt himself, TAZE HIM! If the police ever do give a warning, it would probably sound something like this: "Sir, we see that you are engaging in something that could possibly cause you injury....so we are going to go ahead and GUARANTEE your injury by tazing you!" LICK THE BOOT! can you remember that 10 year old getting tazed for not washing the cop car Anderson_G Always expect the unexpected and beware of nasty things pretending to be nice. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2712120 United States11/14/2012 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well... the police are being trained in use of military tactics and equipment for use against civilians.. Quoting: Waterbug They gotta get some practice. Why are they so scared? They're not tasering people b/c they're "scared." THey're doing it b/c they believe they are BETTER, STRONGER, MORE IN CHARGE, BETTER INFORMED, BETTER ARMED than we are. And for the most part, they are right. US citizens have become SHEEPLE, and no less cowed by their government officials than jews in Nazi Germany in the '30's. Next they'll come to usher you all off to the "camps" and you'll go willingly, just like the jews did, b/c they will tell you it's good for you. |
| Alufiend User ID: 27691760 United States11/14/2012 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is for your protection "BZZZZZ" This is for your safety "BZZZZZ" Stop resisting "BZZZZZ" Whats this button do? "BZZZZZZ" This is for assault with a garden hose "BZZZZZ" This is for being in your underwear, outside in public view during an emergency "BZZZZZZ" Failure to follow orders "BZZZZZZ" Failure to wash my car "BZZZZZ" |
| Chip (OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 21090171 United States11/14/2012 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're not tasering people b/c they're "scared." THey're doing it b/c they believe they are BETTER, STRONGER, MORE IN CHARGE, BETTER INFORMED, BETTER ARMED than we are. And for the most part, they are right. US citizens have become SHEEPLE, and no less cowed by their government officials than jews in Nazi Germany in the '30's. Next they'll come to usher you all off to the "camps" and you'll go willingly, just like the jews did, b/c they will tell you it's good for you. Only a whiny ass scared power tripping fool would tazer an old lady, and old man, a man tring to save his home...etc. That is the bottom line! Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
| BRIEF User ID: 2310364 United States11/14/2012 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dont you guys understand this man could have caused more dmg to himself and others had the "escalation officer" allowed him to continued. he's lucky he didn't get shot in the face for disobeying the high school drop out with below avg intelligence. next time he will know, lesson learned. SHOOOT EMME UP !! GUNS GUNS!!  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9258462 United States11/14/2012 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How dare he! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23755636 I hope they shot his dog too the scoundrel. & let that be a lesson to anyone else who thinks about murdering a fire, combustion has rights too. In the next version of these police stories, we will hear the dog was shot in all four legs and thrown into a fire that the police started as the homeowner was handcuffed and eyelids propped open to make him watch and listen to his punishment. The crime will be that he left a tire mark on the curb. |
| Chrit User ID: 27088294 United States11/14/2012 07:24 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The article said their law enforcement policy was to only use the tazer if "other control techniques" would likely result in a "physical confrontation" that may cause injury to the officer or person. But the officer must first give a "verbal warning" that he is going to use a taser. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27684437 I have YET to see any police officer use their tazers according to this "policy". And doesn't the wording of that policy seem a little vague? If he looks like he's going to hurt himself, TAZE HIM! If the police ever do give a warning, it would probably sound something like this: "Sir, we see that you are engaging in something that could possibly cause you injury....so we are going to go ahead and GUARANTEE your injury by tazing you!" LICK THE BOOT! Law suit time. His house was fine right? They over reacted to a situation that had yet to develop. I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
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| Chip (OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 21090171 United States11/14/2012 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps this is why we have problems like this --> [link to www.classwarfareexists.com] Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27304459 United States11/14/2012 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well... the police are being trained in use of military tactics and equipment for use against civilians.. Quoting: Waterbug They gotta get some practice. True...but just for PR's sake they should be a tad more selective. When they do shit like this it's like rubbing our low status as "civilians" into our face. I don't think they are worried about PR with the recent 'Homeland' legislation. Everybody is a potential terrorist. 3 year-olds.. grannys in Depends.. nuns... The pendulum has swung way to the opposite side of the box and gotten stuck there. Don't have a use for common sense, anymore. If you don't have a badge or a bullet-proof limo.... you are fair game. The use of equipment is unnecessary unless the officers cannot take the "suspect" down with their bare hands. When I was a LEO that's the way it was. Other officers would call you a rookie for peppering or pulling your straight baton out unless you were in danger. Why are they so scared? The stated reason is to protect him from the fire, to get him away from it. Likewise, the officers wanted to be out of there too if it was dangerous. So they did it in the fastest way, so they could all get out of the dangerous area. Furthermore, this man was endangering the cops as well as himself by refusing to move out of danger. I am assuming the police's judgment was correct, that it was too dangerous to stay where he was. If the judgment was wrong, then the conclusion is different. |
| Epic Beard Guy Constitutional Crusader User ID: 26240425 United States11/14/2012 07:32 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | King Barry probably gave orders to stop anyone doing a job that could be done by a union member. We can't have civilians saving a home that union firmen could put out after it burns. (insert sarcasm here) Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
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| Chrit User ID: 27088294 United States11/14/2012 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if the cop let him run into his burning home and died due to the fire, his family would be suing the police. Quoting: AmericanInfidel His house was not burning his neighbors was. They cannot stop you unless it is an imminent danger and it obviously was not because his house is still standing. They can try to get him on failure to comply but they admitted they did not follow their own procedures.  Last Edited by Chrit on 11/14/2012 07:34 PM I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
