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i hope he sues the fuck outta them and wins, that way next time they will think twice before doing something stupid
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True...but just for PR's sake they should be a tad more selective.

When they do shit like this it's like rubbing our low status as "civilians" into our face.
 Quoting: Chip


I don't think they are worried about PR with the recent 'Homeland' legislation.
Everybody is a potential terrorist.
3 year-olds.. grannys in Depends.. nuns...

The pendulum has swung way to the opposite side of the box and gotten stuck there.

Don't have a use for common sense, anymore.
If you don't have a badge or a bullet-proof limo.... you are fair game.
 Quoting: Waterbug


The use of equipment is unnecessary unless the officers cannot take the "suspect" down with their bare hands. When I was a LEO that's the way it was. Other officers would call you a rookie for peppering or pulling your straight baton out unless you were in danger.

Why are they so scared?
 Quoting: Chip

The stated reason is to protect him from the fire, to get him away from it.

Likewise, the officers wanted to be out of there too if it was dangerous. So they did it in the fastest way, so they could all get out of the dangerous area.

Furthermore, this man was endangering the cops as well as himself by refusing to move out of danger.

I am assuming the police's judgment was correct, that it was too dangerous to stay where he was. If the judgment was wrong, then the conclusion is different.
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I disagree. "Tazering" a man makes him dead weight that you have to go get. Think before you speak...otherwise you get bitch slapped.
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King Barry probably gave orders to stop anyone doing a job that could be done by a union member. We can't have civilians saving a home that union firmen could put out after it burns. (insert sarcasm here)
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Exactly. The government needs a purpose. It's a business. You saving yourself, makes them obsolete.
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I thought it's long been established by precedent the function of these officers is NOT TO protect you.

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Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981) is an oft-quoted[2] District of Columbia Court of Appeals (equivalent to a state supreme court) case that held police do not have a duty to provide police services to individuals, even if a dispatcher promises help to be on the way, except when police develop a special duty to particular individuals.


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[link to pinellaspark.wtsp.com]

Captain Forseth with the Pinellas Park Police Department said they exhausted all other options, and that their goal was to keep Daniel and the officers safe from the fire.

[link to pinellaspark.wtsp.com]

So if they are not required under their duties to protect it seems that they were acting as individuals and not officers of the law. Maybe this could open them up for a personal suit and not just having the city pay (though I would really have no problem with that).

I could see myself in his (homeowner's) position easily.
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"Captain Forseth said the department will not be charging him"

Seems to me being tased is the act of charging a man.
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I don't think they are worried about PR with the recent 'Homeland' legislation.
Everybody is a potential terrorist.
3 year-olds.. grannys in Depends.. nuns...

The pendulum has swung way to the opposite side of the box and gotten stuck there.

Don't have a use for common sense, anymore.
If you don't have a badge or a bullet-proof limo.... you are fair game.
 Quoting: Waterbug


The use of equipment is unnecessary unless the officers cannot take the "suspect" down with their bare hands. When I was a LEO that's the way it was. Other officers would call you a rookie for peppering or pulling your straight baton out unless you were in danger.

Why are they so scared?
 Quoting: Chip

The stated reason is to protect him from the fire, to get him away from it.

Likewise, the officers wanted to be out of there too if it was dangerous. So they did it in the fastest way, so they could all get out of the dangerous area.

Furthermore, this man was endangering the cops as well as himself by refusing to move out of danger.

I am assuming the police's judgment was correct, that it was too dangerous to stay where he was. If the judgment was wrong, then the conclusion is different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


I disagree. "Tazering" a man makes him dead weight that you have to go get. Think before you speak...otherwise you get bitch slapped.
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Did you say bitch slapped?


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Let's make it legal to bitch slap stupid people!
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to the police, the act of getting tazzed is a chargable offense.

Just 1 more thing cops will taze you for.

have epilepsy? "BZZZZZZ"
Diabetic? "BZZZZZZ"
your mother has an arrest warrant? "BZZZZZ"
talked back to your teacher? "BZZZZZZ"
neighbors house on fire? "BZZZZZ"

Don't own a dog i can shoot? "BZZZZZZ"
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12212850


you can move to Canada and stop whinning
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Brief wont comment on this one....

BUT I ASSURE YOU..

He will read this at his computer,
lean back in his chair,
and fantasize
wishing he could get the good ole glory days back,

being a cop and tazering anyone who stares at him, and getting the rush of being superior,

afterward getting much anticipated joy of retelling his fellow cop "buddys" on how he got a big one today

and celebrating by giving blowjobs to his fellow officer buddies, with a big confident grin while the receiving officer smiles back ar him, eating and licking a donut...

the good ole days, uhu, BRIEF...oh the days when you felt like a man...

man, how times have passed..now look at yourself......
your boys must be proud....
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Same shit here in OZ.

I've linked two stories below the first one the weapon of choice was a packet of biscuits and it cost him his life!


[link to news.smh.com.au]

Police officers involved in the death of a Brazilian student who was tasered 14 times face possible disciplinary charges after the NSW coroner handed down a scathing finding on the incident.

Mary Jerram labelled the officers' behaviour "thuggish" and rejected the evidence from some of the officers.

She recommended disciplinary charges for five of the officers involved and said the police action taken against Roberto Laudisio Curti, 21, should be referred to the Police Integrity Commission (PIC)...
...The coroner found he had an adverse reaction to a small dose of LSD the prior evening, then stole biscuits from a convenience store before police mistakenly believed he was armed.

She said officers clearly used excessive force in abuse of police powers and were "in some instances even thuggish" and "out of control"...


[link to www.couriermail.com.au]


THE family of a man tasered multiple times by Queensland Police say his death was both ``callous'' and preventable.

Antonio Galeano, 39, died outside a home at Brandon, south of Townsville, in June last year following a domestic dispute that resulted in him being tasered and then restrained by police...
...data extracted from the device that showed it may have been fired up to 28 times...


guess the training is global in nature.



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small world right I live on the next street over on applewood terrace seen his house caught fire but didnt know that went down
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Well... the police are being trained in use of military tactics and equipment for use against civilians..
They gotta get some practice.
 Quoting: Waterbug


True...but just for PR's sake they should be a tad more selective.

When they do shit like this it's like rubbing our low status as "civilians" into our face.
 Quoting: Chip


So f'ing what??? It's not like we're going to fight back in any way.

And they know it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2712120


Just leave .....

Just leave the.....

Just leave the fucking fighting to grown men....

BITCH.

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"Let it go, that is what insurance is for." He was supposed to let the fire spread to his house? You have to be kidding me.
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Brief wont comment on this one....

BUT I ASSURE YOU..

He will read this at his computer,
lean back in his chair,
and fantasize
wishing he could get the good ole glory days back,

being a cop and tazering anyone who stares at him, and getting the rush of being superior,

afterward getting much anticipated joy of retelling his fellow cop "buddys" on how he got a big one today

and celebrating by giving blowjobs to his fellow officer buddies, with a big confident grin while the receiving officer smiles back ar him, eating and licking a donut...

the good ole days, uhu, BRIEF...oh the days when you felt like a man...

man, how times have passed..now look at yourself......
your boys must be proud....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22903086


No wonder the girls on another thread about another house exploding, mentioned his microphallus condition. Poor guy, and I was sure he had something going, being hung like a thoroughbred and all.
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Well... the police are being trained in use of military tactics and equipment for use against civilians..
They gotta get some practice.
 Quoting: Waterbug


True...but just for PR's sake they should be a tad more selective.


 Quoting: Chip


LOL .. today's police have no concept of "public relations."

Even on the rare occasions when the press asks them tough questions it's pretty much "Why did our officers do whatever messsed up thing they did? Because F*CK YOU, that's why!" ....

They have the power and we don't -- well, we do , but we have chosen to just give it up to them. Time to take it back.
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In a way, I understand the fear.. because, that is what it is, fear.
The leos are in the line of fire, assuming they do their jobs, dealing with the dregs of society and violent offenders on a daily basis.
Anyone would become jaded and suspicious.

But it is their responsibility to make a judgement call.
And they are trained to make those calls.
If they can't handle it, they shouldn't be in the job.

Lots of prison jobs they can do where thinking is not at a premium.
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The article said their law enforcement policy was to only use the tazer if "other control techniques" would likely result in a "physical confrontation" that may cause injury to the officer or person. But the officer must first give a "verbal warning" that he is going to use a taser.

I have YET to see any police officer use their tazers according to this "policy". And doesn't the wording of that policy seem a little vague? If he looks like he's going to hurt himself, TAZE HIM!

If the police ever do give a warning, it would probably sound something like this: "Sir, we see that you are engaging in something that could possibly cause you injury....so we are going to go ahead and GUARANTEE your injury by tazing you!" LICK THE BOOT!

gaah
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can you remember that 10 year old getting tazed for not washing the cop car
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Link ? That can't be true ...
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you can move to Canada and stop whinning
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whine (hwn, wn)
v. whined, whin·ing, whines
v.intr.
1. To utter a plaintive, high-pitched, protracted sound, as in pain, fear, supplication, or complaint.
2. To complain or protest in a childish fashion.
3. To produce a sustained noise of relatively high pitch: jet engines whining.

Nope, don't see any of that here!

As to your comment, why the fuck would i want to go to canastan, home of universal health care, gun control, sharia law courts, racism and just generally a rotten place to live, kind of like Kalifornia, but worse. Nope, i will stay here and continue on, working at changing the system, helping the country back to it's constitutional roots. Thanks for your comment, as inane as it is, Ed.
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True...but just for PR's sake they should be a tad more selective.

When they do shit like this it's like rubbing our low status as "civilians" into our face.
 Quoting: Chip


I don't think they are worried about PR with the recent 'Homeland' legislation.
Everybody is a potential terrorist.
3 year-olds.. grannys in Depends.. nuns...

The pendulum has swung way to the opposite side of the box and gotten stuck there.

Don't have a use for common sense, anymore.
If you don't have a badge or a bullet-proof limo.... you are fair game.
 Quoting: Waterbug


The use of equipment is unnecessary unless the officers cannot take the "suspect" down with their bare hands. When I was a LEO that's the way it was. Other officers would call you a rookie for peppering or pulling your straight baton out unless you were in danger.

Why are they so scared?
 Quoting: Chip

The stated reason is to protect him from the fire, to get him away from it.

Likewise, the officers wanted to be out of there too if it was dangerous. So they did it in the fastest way, so they could all get out of the dangerous area.

Furthermore, this man was endangering the cops as well as himself by refusing to move out of danger.

I am assuming the police's judgment was correct, that it was too dangerous to stay where he was. If the judgment was wrong, then the conclusion is different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


Let me guess ... you are a "po leese man." I was married to a po leese man and always worried more about the public, than anyone else, each time he put on his cop suit.
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The police can also come to your house and rape your underage daughters, if so desired

Thread: Police Rapist -the decline of local law enforcement

"Between December 2009 and January 2010, Murphy, then a Navassa cop, was assigned to investigate whether a relative’s boyfriend had sent inappropriate pictures to the plaintiff.

Murphy brought the victim into a bedroom and told her that investigators required photos of her to compare to the images sent to her cell phone. So Murphy had the victim remove her clothing so he could take pictures of her genitals and breasts.

Murphy returned on the girl’s birthday in January, when he told her that he needed to conduct a “pressure test” to determine if she had been sexually active. On his town-issued cell phone, which was later confiscated by sheriff’s investigators, Murphy recorded himself having sex with the teenager."


He did not taser her before he left, making this story somewhat unsatisfactory

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The police can also come to your house and rape your underage daughters, if so desired

Thread: Police Rapist -the decline of local law enforcement

"Between December 2009 and January 2010, Murphy, then a Navassa cop, was assigned to investigate whether a relative’s boyfriend had sent inappropriate pictures to the plaintiff.

Murphy brought the victim into a bedroom and told her that investigators required photos of her to compare to the images sent to her cell phone. So Murphy had the victim remove her clothing so he could take pictures of her genitals and breasts.

Murphy returned on the girl’s birthday in January, when he told her that he needed to conduct a “pressure test” to determine if she had been sexually active. On his town-issued cell phone, which was later confiscated by sheriff’s investigators, Murphy recorded himself having sex with the teenager."


He did not taser her before he left, making this story somewhat unsatisfactory
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


That's some fucked up shit. Wtf is wrong with these fuckers?
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The article said their law enforcement policy was to only use the tazer if "other control techniques" would likely result in a "physical confrontation" that may cause injury to the officer or person. But the officer must first give a "verbal warning" that he is going to use a taser.

I have YET to see any police officer use their tazers according to this "policy". And doesn't the wording of that policy seem a little vague? If he looks like he's going to hurt himself, TAZE HIM!

If the police ever do give a warning, it would probably sound something like this: "Sir, we see that you are engaging in something that could possibly cause you injury....so we are going to go ahead and GUARANTEE your injury by tazing you!" LICK THE BOOT!

gaah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27684437


can you remember that 10 year old getting tazed for not washing the cop car
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Link ? That can't be true ...
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[link to news.yahoo.com]
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The police can also come to your house and rape your underage daughters, if so desired

Thread: Police Rapist -the decline of local law enforcement

"Between December 2009 and January 2010, Murphy, then a Navassa cop, was assigned to investigate whether a relative’s boyfriend had sent inappropriate pictures to the plaintiff.

Murphy brought the victim into a bedroom and told her that investigators required photos of her to compare to the images sent to her cell phone. So Murphy had the victim remove her clothing so he could take pictures of her genitals and breasts.

Murphy returned on the girl’s birthday in January, when he told her that he needed to conduct a “pressure test” to determine if she had been sexually active. On his town-issued cell phone, which was later confiscated by sheriff’s investigators, Murphy recorded himself having sex with the teenager."


He did not taser her before he left, making this story somewhat unsatisfactory
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


That's some fucked up shit. Wtf is wrong with these fuckers?
 Quoting: Chip


makes me fucking sick .......

should be slowly pulled apart from every possible limb
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And if the cop let him run into his burning home and died due to the fire, his family would be suing the police.
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Logic fail.

He was OUTSIDE his own home, spraying the OUTSIDE of his own home.to protect.HIS property. There is no mention of him trying to enter his home.
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You're right. But so am I. If the man was burned at all, the cops would of been blamed.
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Brief wont comment on this one....

BUT I ASSURE YOU..

He will read this at his computer,
lean back in his chair,
and fantasize
wishing he could get the good ole glory days back,

being a cop and tazering anyone who stares at him, and getting the rush of being superior,

afterward getting much anticipated joy of retelling his fellow cop "buddys" on how he got a big one today

and celebrating by giving blowjobs to his fellow officer buddies, with a big confident grin while the receiving officer smiles back ar him, eating and licking a donut...

the good ole days, uhu, BRIEF...oh the days when you felt like a man...

man, how times have passed..now look at yourself......
your boys must be proud....
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He did comment. Page 1.
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