Of the BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS of galaxies in the universe.... | |
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| JackedVegan (OP) User ID: 9066073 11/14/2012 06:46 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not to mention that life could be defined in many different ways, foreign to our experience and knowledge. Quoting: Waterbug Hell... we're still discovering life-forms on earth that we didn't previously recognize. Science knows less about Earth's own oceans than the 100 Billion galaxies in the known universe. |
| Waterbug User ID: 1295673 11/14/2012 06:48 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not to mention that life could be defined in many different ways, foreign to our experience and knowledge. Quoting: Waterbug Hell... we're still discovering life-forms on earth that we didn't previously recognize. Science knows less about Earth's own oceans than the 100 Billion galaxies in the known universe. And they aren't sure about what they do know.. |
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| GALAXY #7829351 User ID: 1402657 11/14/2012 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google... "As is also the case with humans, resistance exists amongst those dominant races. Here again, appearance will not be enough to tell the dominator from the ally. At your current state of psychism, it is extremely difficult for you to distinguish between them. In addition to your intuition, training will be necessary when the time has come." ____________________ " Jims Space Agency " ____________________ |
| Dr.DoomLittle User ID: 6231580 11/14/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...each of those galaxies potentially containing BILLIONS of advanced civilizations. Quoting: JackedVegan Christians, do you honestly believe Earthlings are the ONLY advanced civilization in the universe? Not a bash thread, just an honest question to those who seem to disregard this logic. How can you disregard the obvious fact that there are an infinite number of advanced civilizations in the infinite universe? The odds of other earthlike planets out there is near certain. They would have varying degrees and periods of evolution; depending upon their respective environments. Dinosuar planets, insecta dominant planets, reptillian, cockroach dominant, microscopic, dolphin dominant, whale dominant, all in vary stages dependent upon time and "intervention by cataclysmic events. There can be no change in order without the cataclysm. .So, Is it posible for repitillians to have rapid brain development on other earth; an have diferent technologies but still advanced by our standards? of course. Could there be all ocean planets? All desert? All tropial... of course... all teeming with various life forms, in all probabilty live via similar planetary rules of earth; .. but perhaps not. If there are humanoid type planets that have undergone identical evolution as earth, yet much older or wiser in that they found unity before destruction, or scientific compettition, they would be enowed with traits we may not have concepts of. Dominance is technology and deception on earth; on planet XXUUYY it might be an entirely different form of ... dominance required. it is amazing to think about not only what other earthlike planets are out there; but what stages of evolution, and if they have been "colonized" by aliens from other unimaginable plans of existence; like transdimensional, crystallion, or ... Last Edited by Intergalactic Diplomat on 11/14/2012 07:14 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1579810 11/14/2012 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...each of those galaxies potentially containing BILLIONS of advanced civilizations. Quoting: JackedVegan Christians, do you honestly believe Earthlings are the ONLY advanced civilization in the universe? Not a bash thread, just an honest question to those who seem to disregard this logic. How can you disregard the obvious fact that there are an infinite number of advanced civilizations in the infinite universe? Proof? Because: A) The universe is not infinite. It is vast. But, not infinite. B) There's absolutely no evidence to even remotely suggest life is anywhere outside of Earth. Looking at our own planet does not justify assumptions regarding others. |
| Dr.DoomLittle User ID: 6231580 11/14/2012 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...each of those galaxies potentially containing BILLIONS of advanced civilizations. Quoting: JackedVegan Christians, do you honestly believe Earthlings are the ONLY advanced civilization in the universe? Not a bash thread, just an honest question to those who seem to disregard this logic. How can you disregard the obvious fact that there are an infinite number of advanced civilizations in the infinite universe? Proof? Because: A) The universe is not infinite. It is vast. But, not infinite. B) There's absolutely no evidence to even remotely suggest life is anywhere outside of Earth. Looking at our own planet does not justify assumptions regarding others. Addressing your points: A) You can only hypothesize that the universe is not infinate, just as it is a hypothesis that the universe is infinate. B) No evidence is irrelevant; there is no evidenceor proof of an existence of a christian god, or any other organized religion entity. It is all intuitive; a fact exploited by the elite. It is true about assumptions, but we can draw no conclusions, and not even dispute claims about the universe, where we can about religious claims; evidence being the lack of real communication by these gods, which are also confounded by the need for control by the elite. That said, there really are no hard facts to justify hard belief systems; science is a series of hypothesi that are eventually fated to be proven WRONG over time. Last Edited by Intergalactic Diplomat on 11/14/2012 07:21 PM |
| JackedVegan (OP) User ID: 9066073 11/14/2012 07:27 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...each of those galaxies potentially containing BILLIONS of advanced civilizations. Quoting: JackedVegan Christians, do you honestly believe Earthlings are the ONLY advanced civilization in the universe? Not a bash thread, just an honest question to those who seem to disregard this logic. How can you disregard the obvious fact that there are an infinite number of advanced civilizations in the infinite universe? Proof? Because: A) The universe is not infinite. It is vast. But, not infinite. B) There's absolutely no evidence to even remotely suggest life is anywhere outside of Earth. Looking at our own planet does not justify assumptions regarding others. A) You say the universe is "not infinite. It is vast." Under what evidence to do you use to point to that statement? B) However, if indeed, the universe is "infinite" (which there is ample evidence to point to such), then by definition, there MUST be advanced civilizations elsewhere...in fact, there then MUST be an INFINITE number of advanced civilizations. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21926154 11/15/2012 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | basically any form that is consuming to sustain its existence can be considered a 'life-form' the sun, an atom... a neutrino... sometimes these things naturally organize into complex systems. We recognize these as 'life forms' A life form can consist of smaller lifeforms. A human consists of cells So the universe is alive and full of life Just a matter of finding life forms that are similar to a human When we do we will have three questions 1. Are they going to try to eat us? Which would make them our enemies. 2. Are they going to try and eat our food? Which would make them our enemies. 3. Can we work together to eat other things more efficiently? It's really that simple |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21926154 11/15/2012 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...each of those galaxies potentially containing BILLIONS of advanced civilizations. Quoting: JackedVegan Christians, do you honestly believe Earthlings are the ONLY advanced civilization in the universe? Not a bash thread, just an honest question to those who seem to disregard this logic. How can you disregard the obvious fact that there are an infinite number of advanced civilizations in the infinite universe? Proof? Because: A) The universe is not infinite. It is vast. But, not infinite. B) There's absolutely no evidence to even remotely suggest life is anywhere outside of Earth. Looking at our own planet does not justify assumptions regarding others. A) You say the universe is "not infinite. It is vast." Under what evidence to do you use to point to that statement? B) However, if indeed, the universe is "infinite" (which there is ample evidence to point to such), then by definition, there MUST be advanced civilizations elsewhere...in fact, there then MUST be an INFINITE number of advanced civilizations. Infinite actually means undefined. Since no one can even conceive of the border for everything, it is by definition infinite |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3796695 11/15/2012 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...each of those galaxies potentially containing BILLIONS of advanced civilizations. Quoting: JackedVegan Christians, do you honestly believe Earthlings are the ONLY advanced civilization in the universe? Not a bash thread, just an honest question to those who seem to disregard this logic. How can you disregard the obvious fact that there are an infinite number of advanced civilizations in the infinite universe? The Bible does not teach that we are the only inhabited planet in the universe. The Christians who believe such an idea have only surface-read the Bible. There are many planets with humanoids such as ourselves but which have never fallen to sin and who continue to live in perfect happiness, and who are watcing with great interest the events unfolding on this planet. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21926154 11/15/2012 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...each of those galaxies potentially containing BILLIONS of advanced civilizations. Quoting: JackedVegan Christians, do you honestly believe Earthlings are the ONLY advanced civilization in the universe? Not a bash thread, just an honest question to those who seem to disregard this logic. How can you disregard the obvious fact that there are an infinite number of advanced civilizations in the infinite universe? The Bible does not teach that we are the only inhabited planet in the universe. The Christians who believe such an idea have only surface-read the Bible. There are many planets with humanoids such as ourselves but which have never fallen to sin and who continue to live in perfect happiness, and who are watcing with great interest the events unfolding on this planet. *facepalm |
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| 071676 User ID: 26630358 11/15/2012 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...each of those galaxies potentially containing BILLIONS of advanced civilizations. Quoting: JackedVegan Christians, do you honestly believe Earthlings are the ONLY advanced civilization in the universe? Not a bash thread, just an honest question to those who seem to disregard this logic. How can you disregard the obvious fact that there are an infinite number of advanced civilizations in the infinite universe? So, by your explanation, GOD is severely limited by nature. No where in the Bible does it say that we are the only life giving body in the entire universe. Only those that choose to not believe, or choose to ridicule would ever put a limitation upon GOD. With the Bible written on Earth, by earthlings, under direction of GOD, does NOT mean that there are NOT other "Bibles" on other worlds, by other beings, from the same GOD by a different name. Only a fool ever tries to limit GOD to the fools limited knowledge. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1259549 11/15/2012 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody knows what kick started the whole thing on Earth. It may have been unbelievable odds just for life to trigger here. What had to happen for humans to develop anatomically as they did with developed brains? I don't know, but I'm sure it was against enormous odds. Add to that the balance of life that Earth provides. A "living" planet just the right distance from the sun with just the right atmosphere. With a moon that is the right size and distance that provides the right tidal pull. We have been lucky enough to survive all the impacts, and ice ages, and droughts, and extinction events. We could be the only cognizant life in the universe. But even with all that, considering the size of the universe beyond human imagination I still think there has to be a wealth of life out there. Most of it probably much different than we are accustomed to. Maybe even unrecognizeable to us. We are never going to find Vulcans, but there is certainly also life out there that is somewhat like our own. Probably wouldn't be easy to find them though. |
| Machine42 User ID: 2055677 11/15/2012 08:13 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (Hebrews 1:2) has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; (1 Corinthians 4:9) For I think that God has displayed us, the apostles, last, as men condemned to death; for we have been made a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to men.. Strong's Hebrew and Greek Dictionary describes "Spectacle" as: ----- theatron theh'-at-ron From G2300; a place for public show (“theatre”), that is, general audience room; by implication a show itself (figuratively): - spectacle, theatre. [link to www.roadtobetterliving.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22517012 11/15/2012 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...each of those galaxies potentially containing BILLIONS of advanced civilizations. Quoting: JackedVegan Christians, do you honestly believe Earthlings are the ONLY advanced civilization in the universe? Not a bash thread, just an honest question to those who seem to disregard this logic. How can you disregard the obvious fact that there are an infinite number of advanced civilizations in the infinite universe? I have a issue with how all Christians are grouped into one group. I don't believe we are the only advanced civilization...nor does my church teach that. Nor does my church teach that the earth is "only 5000 years old." I'm Orthodox, btw. |
| JackedVegan (OP) User ID: 9066073 11/15/2012 08:18 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...each of those galaxies potentially containing BILLIONS of advanced civilizations. Quoting: JackedVegan Christians, do you honestly believe Earthlings are the ONLY advanced civilization in the universe? Not a bash thread, just an honest question to those who seem to disregard this logic. How can you disregard the obvious fact that there are an infinite number of advanced civilizations in the infinite universe? I have a issue with how all Christians are grouped into one group. I don't believe we are the only advanced civilization...nor does my church teach that. Nor does my church teach that the earth is "only 5000 years old." I'm Orthodox, btw. Fair enough.. So, what does your church teach in regards to this topic? |
| upgrad3 User ID: 22884161 11/15/2012 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not going to touch the religious aspect of this post. But I would like to throw out some facts to show how large our galaxy, The Milky Way, is and how large the universe actually is. It really is mind blowing: Light Year = 186,000 Miles per Second. So just to put some of the below in to perspective, you can travel 5.88 trillion miles in one light year. 1) The Milky Way is 100,000 light years in diameter or 588,000 trillion miles wide. 2) The farthest we have seen into the universe is a point that is 14 billion light years from Earth. 3) There are 350 billion known galaxies. Some smaller and some much larger than ours. 4) There are 7 trillion know dwarf galaxies (which only contain several billion stars, unlike our galaxy which has 200-400 billion stars) in the universe. 5) There are 30 billion trillion (3x10 to the 22 power) stars visible in the universe. 6) The universe is ever expanding. Meaning that if a galaxy is 5 billion light years away from Earth, by the time we see it, it could be 10 billion light years away. 7) Scientists don't even know if our universe is the only one that even exists. I'm not a science buff of anything, but these facts are just crazy. The sheer size of the universe is overwhelming. It just really makes you wonder what's out there. [link to www.nasa.gov] [link to www.atlasoftheuniverse.com] [link to www.universetoday.com] [link to earthsky.org] upgrad3 |
| JackedVegan (OP) User ID: 9066073 11/15/2012 09:09 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not going to touch the religious aspect of this post. But I would like to throw out some facts to show how large our galaxy, The Milky Way, is and how large the universe actually is. It really is mind blowing: Quoting: upgrad3 Light Year = 186,000 Miles per Second. So just to put some of the below in to perspective, you can travel 5.88 trillion miles in one light year. 1) The Milky Way is 100,000 light years in diameter or 588,000 trillion miles wide. 2) The farthest we have seen into the universe is a point that is 14 billion light years from Earth. 3) There are 350 billion known galaxies. Some smaller and some much larger than ours. 4) There are 7 trillion know dwarf galaxies (which only contain several billion stars, unlike our galaxy which has 200-400 billion stars) in the universe. 5) There are 30 billion trillion (3x10 to the 22 power) stars visible in the universe. 6) The universe is ever expanding. Meaning that if a galaxy is 5 billion light years away from Earth, by the time we see it, it could be 10 billion light years away. 7) Scientists don't even know if our universe is the only one that even exists. I'm not a science buff of anything, but these facts are just crazy. The sheer size of the universe is overwhelming. It just really makes you wonder what's out there. [link to www.nasa.gov] [link to www.atlasoftheuniverse.com] [link to www.universetoday.com] [link to earthsky.org] ![]() |
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