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Actually, this is the first chapter and verse about events dealing with; "the things which shall be hereafter"

"After this"; "meta tauta"; in the greek... Scripture interprets scripture. Prophesy is pattern.

So then consider the context.... "After this" and "after these things"... Consider what is the "this" and what is the "these things" John eludes to?

Seek your answers from the Spirit and searching the scripture. Be a Berean. When the Spirit reveals these answers then one can know how events unfold.

The things which have been, the things which are and the things which shall be hereafter.

Rev ch 4 v 2-4 does anyone care to explain this true meaning?


And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. v3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald. v4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats i saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

888 = triple infinity = 24

Or it was actually as it states!

...John records a vision of the throne room of the Almighty. And seated round about the throne, the representatives of the 24 courses of the priesthood.

I've been thinking about grabbin a bible and readin that whole thang! Which version is the 'realest'?

Maybe the dead sea scrolls? lol

Regarding the 24 elders; Scripture interprets scripture, always. There is no need to guess at things.

There are only three people(s) or groups who are both kings and priests: The Christ, Melchizadek and the church.

The 24 elders are described in chapters 4 & 5. Scripture interprets scripture. And scripture identifies which of these three the 24 represent.

All of them are real...its up to the individual to decide whats right from wrong ,as well as true from false.

Can we respond or would you like the OP to do so first? I wouldn't want to spoil a good teaching.

What scripture points out who the 24 elders are? Its sounds like to me hes describing 24 stars in space surrounding somthing else. They sit and dont move, they appear white with gold crowns, and they are our elders because of age.

Read Chapters 4 and 5 and you will see that they move and speak and sing and worship. They describe who they are and from where they came.

Scripture interprets scripture.

I say, do as you are lead by The Spirit. :)

peace,

It also says that they cast their crowns before the throne of god...That could mean that they shine their rays of light on the throne of god.The bible can be interpreted different ways and is complex...If scripture interprets scripture with such ease.Then why does scripture still baffle scholars even today?

You have no idea of just how real the book Revelation is coming true.

I am reminded of Proverbs 25:2.

Yes, I agree - scripture is complex and can apply to many things and has many levels of meaning.

Scripture tells us that some things are sealed until the Spirit will reveal them.

God seems to reveal things when they can be of benefit to the body. When they can serve the needs of the body.

Scripture is living and breathing. It is both a confirmation of the Spirit of God and a revealing of the plan of God.

But what great mystery author reveals the ending before its time?

God is much higher than men... I suspect even "scholars" :)

I am confident God will reveal all things in their perfect time.

peace,

Yes i agree,Infact in the bible at the point when it says that the mystery of god is revealed,is also the time when there is time no longer.Therefore when the mystery of god is revealed no human form may be around to know about it.

You people that think G-D resides on a spaceship and his home planet is Kolob or Jehovah or whatever false crap your teaching now a days are in for a surprise.

People like you have twisted the word of God to such an extent it's not even funny.

Jesus plainly talks about G-D residing in the spiritual world, multiple times throughout the bible. He is the G-D of life in death, not death, etc.

You must DIE to be judged at G-D's thrown and be judged according to the book of life. Not WISKED AWAY IN A FREAKING SPACESHIP.

"And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God."

You Alientards are highly amusing.



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Rev ch 4 v 2-4 does anyone care to explain this true meaning?


And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. v3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald. v4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats i saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

I think we cant understand revelation until we get through the first verses concerning the furure events on earth.,I am open to all possabilities.

If you are SERIOUS....and not a troll. Read the KJV. It is the only version to be directly translated from the Textus Conceptus.

It's the 'realest'.....the other's were made much later and HAVE COPYRIGHTS....they are NOT the true word of g-d..

You people that think G-D resides on a spaceship and his home planet is Kolob or Jehovah or whatever false crap your teaching now a days are in for a surprise.

People like you have twisted the word of God to such an extent it's not even funny.

Jesus plainly talks about G-D residing in the spiritual world, multiple times throughout the bible. He is the G-D of life in death, not death, etc.

You must DIE to be judged at G-D's thrown and be judged according to the book of life. Not WISKED AWAY IN A FREAKING SPACESHIP.

"And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God."

You Alientards are highly amusing.


[/quote If god created us then i imagine super intelligence and super technology.To build a spaceship to god is nothing and well within his realm of power.I do agree with you to some degree about the spiritual world aspect.But there are also alot of space and energies out there that we do not yet comperhend.Energies that could be in other dimensions and spiritual dimensions im sure.Not all people have died to see god...infact one person in the onld testement did not die but was transfigured.But to think that astronomy doesnt play a role somwhere, is somwhat close minded.After all the vastness of space is supposely almost beyond human understanding.God used space and matter to begin this do you not think he might use it to end it aswell? The mystery of god may not be revealed but it can be contemplated.

Almost everything in the Revelation has direct references and clear allusions in the Old Testament, I’ll start with the 1st chapter in Revelation


Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen
Rev.1:7

I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Dan.7:13

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Zech.12:10

If god created us then i imagine super intelligence and super technology.To build a spaceship to god is nothing and well within his realm of power.I do agree with you to some degree about the spiritual world aspect.But there are also alot of space and energies out there that we do not yet comperhend.Energies that could be in other dimensions and spiritual dimensions im sure.Not all people have died to see god...infact one person in the onld testement did not die but was transfigured.But to think that astronomy doesnt play a role somwhere, is somwhat close minded.After all the vastness of space is supposely almost beyond human understanding.God used space and matter to begin this do you not think he might use it to end it aswell? The mystery of god may not be revealed but it can be contemplated.

Bottom line i believe that revelations is astronomical in nature...predictive astronomy and alot of the verses can be related directly to objects,planets,energies,elements and stars in space.I wanted to go over revelations and reveal all of the galactic verses.

K...

I see the timing of "come up here" immediately after the letters to the 7 churches as a type of the Rapture of the saints after the church age. The corroborating scriptures would be those of Paul, Jesus, and James' quote of an OT prophecy about "the times of the Gentiles" after which God will "rebuild David's fallen tent". Revelation is nothing if not sequential in nature from start to finish, so every time I see "after this" I presume a sequence unless something in the context indicates otherwise.

The OP is looking for "cosmic" interpretations of everything, but I know of no corroborating scriptures to justify it. It's sometimes entertaining to see meaning in things just based on a whim or opinion, but when one seeks prophetic fulfillment, this technique will of course prove futile and misleading.

Unless the LORD builds the house... as it is written.

Im not looking for cosmic interpretations in everything,just for in a majority of the book of revelation.There are actually alot of scriptures that could easily mean somthing astrological.For example rev ch 6 v2

And i saw , and behold a whithorse:and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth coquering, and to conquer.

Yes you could think of this in the literal sense but does it really make sense? We have a planet in our solar system which attracts space debris and ejects it back out into space...it probably shines as if it has a crown and is white in color.Now think about all the four horseman of the apocalypse...think of the colors of their horses...white,red,black, and pale.Is the descriptions.Iv never personally seen a red horse...because horses are not red so it doesn't make sense.So where else do these colors commonly appear? space...The black horse with the scales?...funny because scientist speak of a black hole that could basically hold the balance between life and death for us.As for the pale horse...well we all know what else is pale in color from media...astroroids usually a pale grey color and guess what comes with it. death.

KJV... thanks for the tip