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Mr Darwin, care to explain how the second watermellon was made in the million years it took 'evolution' to invent seeds?

 
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Re: Mr Darwin, care to explain how the second watermellon was made in the million years it took 'evolution' to invent seeds?
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stop being lazy, look it up yourself.

google monoecious and dioecious.
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No, you post the blueprint for the seed the 'evolution thingy' programed enabling self pollenation. Can't be but a few hundred thousand mathematical/chemical equations. If you start now you'll be done before the turn of the century. You are smart as a watermelon right?
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yeah, but for that i would need help from your uncle Darwin, but he just does'nt answer the phone these days.
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Yeah, but just wait until he's resurrected, and get's a peek through an electron microscope at DNA blueprints, and looks up and says... wha dat?
Ohh... take your time Chuck, until you can tell me..
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by then it will be to late for you to apologize for all of the catty things you have said over the last few years.
i fear you have hurt him deeply, oh no it's already too late to say you're sorry.
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Re: Mr Darwin, care to explain how the second watermellon was made in the million years it took 'evolution' to invent seeds?
Let me put it in language you might understand.
When 2 watermelons love eachother a LOT and they want to have little watermelons, the daddy watermelon will take his 'stalk' and place it inside the mommy watermelon...
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i don't think dgn is old enough to hear this yet.
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No, you post the blueprint for the seed the 'evolution thingy' programed enabling self pollenation. Can't be but a few hundred thousand mathematical/chemical equations. If you start now you'll be done before the turn of the century. You are smart as a watermelon right?
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yeah, but for that i would need help from your uncle Darwin, but he just does'nt answer the phone these days.
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Yeah, but just wait until he's resurrected, and get's a peek through an electron microscope at DNA blueprints, and looks up and says... wha dat?
Ohh... take your time Chuck, until you can tell me..
chuckle
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by then it will be to late for you to apologize for all of the catty things you have said over the last few years.
i fear you have hurt him deeply, oh no it's already too late to say you're sorry.
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Pardon me but, who owes man, science, and Jehovah the apology?

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Re: Mr Darwin, care to explain how the second watermellon was made in the million years it took 'evolution' to invent seeds?
Tragically evolutionists will ignore you or insult you because they cannot actually come up with an answer.

Another interesting thing to research is how our DNA is 'put together'

To tell me the complex machinations of our amazing body are the product of chance is simply outlandish.



Although, don't insult evolutionists friend...they are just lost.
Perhaps by meekly pointing out the obvious flaws they will see you are only trying to help.

Too many so called Christians here are very quick to bash others...

Anyway! peace.
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amen,you speak rightly sir,

we are all just lost children,

come Lord Jesus!
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yeah, but for that i would need help from your uncle Darwin, but he just does'nt answer the phone these days.
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Yeah, but just wait until he's resurrected, and get's a peek through an electron microscope at DNA blueprints, and looks up and says... wha dat?
Ohh... take your time Chuck, until you can tell me..
chuckle
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by then it will be to late for you to apologize for all of the catty things you have said over the last few years.
i fear you have hurt him deeply, oh no it's already too late to say you're sorry.
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Pardon me but, who owes man, science, and Jehovah the apology?
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creationists.
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Re: Mr Darwin, care to explain how the second watermellon was made in the million years it took 'evolution' to invent seeds?
here is the answer to your question, OP.

[link to bioweb.uwlax.edu]

Female Flowers
Reproduction occurs within the flowers. The watermelon creates separate male and female flowers, and it is monoecious. On female flowers, the female reproductive organs, known as eggs, are developed into seeds when fertilized and are contained within the ovary. Attached to the watermelon ovary, are three stigmas. The female flowers open and wait to be pollinated.

You should ahve picked a better example to debunk darwin.
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QUOTE; "The watermelon creates separate male and female flowers"??? What is the IQ of a watermelon? Having no mind how did it do the research and development to 'create' organs? Why would a mindless fruit think or care about this?:
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Just because we haven't figured something out doesn't mean GOD did it.

Fuck you all.
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Re: Mr Darwin, care to explain how the second watermellon was made in the million years it took 'evolution' to invent seeds?
GENESIS 32:30
"I have seen the face of GOD"

JOHN 1:18 & JOHN 4:12
"Nobody has seen the face of GOD"

Please OP, tell us how we should all believe a book that condridicts itself over and over again?
Destroy all that is evil, so what is good may flourish.

Guns cause crime like flies cause garbage.

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Re: Mr Darwin, care to explain how the second watermellon was made in the million years it took 'evolution' to invent seeds?
GENESIS 32:30
"I have seen the face of GOD"

JOHN 1:18 & JOHN 4:12
"Nobody has seen the face of GOD"

Please OP, tell us how we should all believe a book that condridicts itself over and over again?
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Metaphoric language, like Revelation;
"A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his servants the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his servant John,  who bore witness to the word God gave and to the witness Jesus Christ gave, even to all the things he saw.  Happy is he who reads aloud and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and who observe the things written in it; for the appointed time is near." Rv1:1
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Re: Mr Darwin, care to explain how the second watermellon was made in the million years it took 'evolution' to invent seeds?
I'm pretty sure Mr. Darwin is dead, so you probably wont get a response from him.
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Don't think the OP is capable of understanding this... it needs to be wrapped up in a fairy story then he may get it..
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I'm pretty sure Mr. Darwin is dead, so you probably wont get a response from him.
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Don't think the OP is capable of understanding this... it needs to be wrapped up in a fairy story then he may get it..
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....no way.... if mankind evolved what purpose would death be? He must be around here some where.
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Re: Mr Darwin, care to explain how the second watermellon was made in the million years it took 'evolution' to invent seeds?
30 seconds of Googling:

The Seed Biology Place - Seed Evolution
[link to www.seedbiology.de]
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Re: Mr Darwin, care to explain how the second watermellon was made in the million years it took 'evolution' to invent seeds?
OP is offered relevant info, yet remains obtuse in his responses

he questions darwin and yet clearly has no scientific knowledge of his own to draw from - hence a stupid question about a watermellon.

see, when you type that word, it comes up spellchecked. why? because its spelled watermelon. with one L

misspells thread title, despite having tech to help him correct this

asks stupid question

denies relevant info

remains obtuse


why is this?


because he is thick as pig shit and living in fear
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Re: Mr Darwin, care to explain how the second watermellon was made in the million years it took 'evolution' to invent seeds?
here is the answer to your question, OP.

[link to bioweb.uwlax.edu]

Female Flowers
Reproduction occurs within the flowers. The watermelon creates separate male and female flowers, and it is monoecious. On female flowers, the female reproductive organs, known as eggs, are developed into seeds when fertilized and are contained within the ovary. Attached to the watermelon ovary, are three stigmas. The female flowers open and wait to be pollinated.

You should ahve picked a better example to debunk darwin.
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QUOTE; "The watermelon creates separate male and female flowers"??? What is the IQ of a watermelon? Having no mind how did it do the research and development to 'create' organs? Why would a mindless fruit think or care about this?:
blink:
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You make a semi valid point but you are assuming that things need to have a mind to create something. The theory of evolution states that an organism will mutate randomly and that eventually one of these mutations will give that species an advantage. The adavantage the watermelon species mutated was the monoecious flowering "system".

The example you used does not prove this is not true.

This of course does not disprove you either.

There is no way to prove God exists until he or Jesus returns. And there will never be a way to prove God does not exist.
I believe myself that the Universe and things in it are the result of some form of design, from a higher intelligence.
But I was stating that the example used in the OP does nothing to help a creationist argruement. I think proving God exists must be done from a spiritual standpoint. example: I pray for something and I get it or A person miraculously recovering from a disease after prayer.
God does answer prayers and often, you get what you asked for. Jesus healed people and changed the world forever.

But then again maybe the water melon has an intelligence we are not yet aware of, just like God is an intelligence that we cannot understand.
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QUOTE; "The theory of evolution states that an organism will mutate randomly and that eventually one of these mutations will give that species an advantage."
Mutation does not result in sophistication, it is the failure of ribosomes to build proteins according to the DNA's blueprint, which results in deformity, like cancer.
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QUOTE; "The watermelon creates separate male and female flowers"??? What is the IQ of a watermelon? Having no mind how did it do the research and development to 'create' organs? Why would a mindless fruit think or care about this?:
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You make a semi valid point but you are assuming that things need to have a mind to create something. The theory of evolution states that an organism will mutate randomly and that eventually one of these mutations will give that species an advantage. The adavantage the watermelon species mutated was the monoecious flowering "system".

The example you used does not prove this is not true.

This of course does not disprove you either.

There is no way to prove God exists until he or Jesus returns. And there will never be a way to prove God does not exist.
I believe myself that the Universe and things in it are the result of some form of design, from a higher intelligence.
But I was stating that the example used in the OP does nothing to help a creationist argruement. I think proving God exists must be done from a spiritual standpoint. example: I pray for something and I get it or A person miraculously recovering from a disease after prayer.
God does answer prayers and often, you get what you asked for. Jesus healed people and changed the world forever.

But then again maybe the water melon has an intelligence we are not yet aware of, just like God is an intelligence that we cannot understand.
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QUOTE; "The theory of evolution states that an organism will mutate randomly and that eventually one of these mutations will give that species an advantage."
Mutation does not result in sophistication, it is the failure of ribosomes to build proteins according to the DNA's blueprint, which results in deformity, like cancer.
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[link to www.darwins-theory-of-evolution.com]

Natural selection acts to preserve and accumulate minor advantageous genetic mutations. Suppose a member of a species developed a functional advantage (it grew wings and learned to fly). Its offspring would inherit that advantage and pass it on to their offspring. The inferior (disadvantaged) members of the same species would gradually die out, leaving only the superior (advantaged) members of the species. Natural selection is the preservation of a functional advantage that enables a species to compete better in the wild.
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"Natural selection" is not a living mind capable of doing aeronautical research and development for designing wings. It can't understand DNA codes or rewrite them with thousands of new data symbols for construction and operating wings. It's only a phrase Darwin made up for a joke he played on a visiting friend who bought it, and passed it on.
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"Natural selection" is not a living mind capable of doing aeronautical research and development for designing wings. It can't understand DNA codes or rewrite them with thousands of new data symbols for construction and operating wings. It's only a phrase Darwin made up for a joke he played on a visiting friend who bought it, and passed it on.
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There's not enough facepalms in the world for this.
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Just because we haven't figured something out doesn't mean GOD did it.

Fuck you all.
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THIS, THIS, A THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES THIS! The God explanation is a cop-out, it's for people who don't want to understand how the world works. I find it almost sad, there's so much wonder in the world that the ONLY explanation for ANYTHING is "God did it" on the other hand, I almost wish I had gone to a religious school, must be cool having "God" be the answer to every question in every class.
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"Natural selection" is not a living mind capable of doing aeronautical research and development for designing wings. It can't understand DNA codes or rewrite them with thousands of new data symbols for construction and operating wings. It's only a phrase Darwin made up for a joke he played on a visiting friend who bought it, and passed it on.
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There's not enough facepalms in the world for this.
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yeah i know its like debating a brickwall.
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Fascinating scientific explanations, educational and knowledgeable, a bit overwhelming with data though.
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No my good sir, I don't wish to explain it to you. I suggest you read my books if you have any interest, as you don't appear to have even an elementary understanding of my theory of evolution, I would have to explain it from the beginning. May I suggest you attempt to use the scientific method for your beliefs?
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lol

i am sure darwin and most others are out of their league when not anwering a dim wit on a conspiracy board

lol
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lol

i am sure darwin and most others are out of their league when not anwering a dim wit on a conspiracy board

lol
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That's all you got?
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No my good sir, I don't wish to explain it to you. I suggest you read my books if you have any interest, as you don't appear to have even an elementary understanding of my theory of evolution, I would have to explain it from the beginning. May I suggest you attempt to use the scientific method for your beliefs?
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Ok, good advise Chuck;
And God went on to say: “Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living souls and let flying creatures fly over the earth upon the face of the expanse of the heavens.” 21 And God proceeded to create the great sea monsters and every living soul that moves about, which the waters swarmed forth according to their kinds, and every winged flying creature according to its kind. And God got to see that [it was] good. 22 With that God blessed them, saying: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the waters in the sea basins, and let the flying creatures become many in the earth.” 23 And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a fifth day." Ge1:20
The simple fact is Chuck, scientific and spiritual intelligence are perfectly complementary to higher education. Theories of bugs turning themselves into men aren't;
"For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened. 22 Although asserting they were wise, they became foolish 23 and turned the glory of the incorruptible God into something like the image of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed creatures and creeping things." Ro1:20
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Re: Mr Darwin, care to explain how the second watermellon was made in the million years it took 'evolution' to invent seeds?
Mutation does not result in sophistication, it is the failure of ribosomes to build proteins according to the DNA's blueprint, which results in deformity, like cancer.
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That's completely wrong. A mutation is a change in the DNA itself.

And of course there are myriad examples of beneficial mutations:

[link to www.gate.net]
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Mutation does not result in sophistication, it is the failure of ribosomes to build proteins according to the DNA's blueprint, which results in deformity, like cancer.
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That's completely wrong. A mutation is a change in the DNA itself.

And of course there are myriad examples of beneficial mutations:

[link to www.gate.net]
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So that is scientific evidence this is your great grandpa?

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Hey DGN, where did your thread about peacocks go?

I just posted a comment about the "evolution" of self consciousness and gave you 5 stars, and the thread has simply vanished...
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Hey DGN, where did your thread about peacocks go?

I just posted a comment about the "evolution" of self consciousness and gave you 5 stars, and the thread has simply vanished...
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God made it vanish, obviously.
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Hey DGN, where did your thread about peacocks go?

I just posted a comment about the "evolution" of self consciousness and gave you 5 stars, and the thread has simply vanished...
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God made it vanish, obviously.
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No I just posted on it but thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Mr Darwin, care to explain how the second watermellon was made in the million years it took 'evolution' to invent seeds?
self pollination you dolt
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So..... do you care to elaborate......? Genius.
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some plants,like the watermelon,have both "female" and "male" pats,it pollinates it self,not needing another plant to further the life cycle....pretty self explanatory
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That doesn't explain anything about how a mindless watermelon constructed a seed. Btw, how many symbols would you estimate are inscribed into the DNA blueprint for building a seed? I'm just wondering how smart watermelons are because I don't a single one.
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Get a life asswipe!
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even if Mr Darwin were alive he could not answer the question because evolution = fail.

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