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I dont really believe in anything I guess. Big Bang makes little sense to me, as does Christianity. Besides the many glaring contradictions in the Christian Bible, theres a larger theme I just dont understand and its bugging me because I WANT to believe in something.Contradictions were created by man. Things were added and removed from the Bible and many other religious texts to fit the current regimes agenda. The larger theme you speak of is the fact that everything is connected, there is a Supreme Being that is in control and as long as you believe in the Supreme Being you will be saved/ascend/etc...that is what every religion from the dawn of time has tried to tell us, however those that were in charge knew this could be manipulated to their advantage
Whether the Bible is meant to be taken literally or figuratively, I believe it is all allegory, the books of the Bible had to be written in a way that future generations would be able to understand and many of the writers of these books didn't have what we consider "common" knowledge today. Such as fire and brimstone (sulfur) pouring down from the sky back then is what we would call a volcanic eruption or meteor shower today. Keep in mind though that over the generations there have been many incorrect translations and modifications to fit man's agenda so the original message has been lost/modified. In addition to that the way we think has changed dramatically. We now think in a more literal sense and if we cannot prove something scientifically we write it off...2000 years ago we wouldn't assume we knew what happened, we would assume it was God's will and leave it at that. Try and put yourself in the shoes of an ancient human...there are many things we take for granted now as common knowledge that the ancients would have no idea about.
My problem is WHERE ARE OUR Moses', Josephs, JESUS', burning bushes, big booming voices from the sky, healers of the blind, any true MIRACLES at all??? Our Moses, Joseph, etc are probably here. Yesterday's prophet is today's schizophrenic or "crazy" person. Food for thought...If Noah came on the news today and said we are going to be flooded everyone come to my ship! People would think he is crazy, off his meds and needs to visit the rubber room! Miracles still happen to this day but they are written off as medical advancements (even though the doctor had done the same exact thing to a previous patient and they died), luck or any other excuse someone comes up with the explain the unexplainable.
It doesnt seem fair that back then, GOD made himself noticable. God is still noticeable, you just have not opened your eyes to see. You are stuck in a pattern of thinking that makes you blind to what is actually going on around you. You've had the wool pulled over your eyes so to speak
I would think that God would make himself more available to a current population that has nothing to latch onto besides evil and bad things. People had a far easier life back then compared to now. Then, you herd some sheep, hunt, grow food, and watch a miracle or two. Now, we all work 25 hrs per day, take care of kids, worry about almost everything from GMO's killing us, to watching a world spiral out of control....all of this, and we're still supposed to make time for FAITH when it appears God has left us thousands of years ago.God is available, but you have turned away from him because you are more focused on material things...I was NOT easier to live back then. Hunting was not easy, they didn't have the weaponry and technology we take for granted now. Growing food was a crap shoot. They didn't have fertilizers, irrigation etc that we do now. What they did have was FAITH in God and in turn he provided a bountiful harvest and lead the hunting groups to the herds. In this day and age we refuse to believe that God will help us. We are on our own and creators of our own destiny, when there is a bountiful harvest we credit our hard work and abilities not God. The world is spiraling out of control, as God said it would if we turned away from him!
Sadly, the vague fulfillment of random prophecies in Daniel and Revelations isnt enough for me to change my whole life and blindly follow a religion. It feels like if there were a God, he has abandoned US when WE need Him most and what God would do that??If you would like a different perspective on this read "The Harbinger." You might realize more prophecy has been fulfilled than you have been lead to believe
Besides birth, DNA, and other banal nonsense, can a Christian please provide me with some insight as to where God has gone? Do you as a Christian think its fair that people 2,000 years ago got all the proof while we ( at the supposed end times) get nothing? Where are our healers, prophets, miracles? While religion is based on faith, one would think God would throw us a bone once in awhile on the same grand style of the old days no?Read above and this will be answered
Quoting: Iamtheone See my responses in bold above... What a very thought out post and certainly food for thought. A few quick questions though: I totally understand the allegory of "yesterdays prophet is todays crazy person". While I agree and see the point you are making, youve missed a glaring hole in that thoery. I have yer to hear of a crazy person predicting a large event that actually happens in a way we can see in hindsight that the crazy person was in fact, correct. I would counter with, it probably has happened, but we have not been made aware...MSM isn't going to report what crazy Johnny said up at the asylum...that won't help their ratings. Could also be that that you weren't paying attention...how many times have you ignored the "crazy" homeless person on the corner that was attempting to tell you something? You make the statement above with the assumption that everything that happens or is stated is reported and you will be made aware. You will not be made aware you must seek the information yourself (free will)I still disagree about the hardships of the time. Is it any harder for say, people in China have an easier time growing rice than they did 5000 years ago? By all accounts, humans mastered farming like 8000 years ago. Dont forget, in Jesus' times, there were bows and arrows, some sort of metal (not sure which age that is so...) swords and spears. Even tribes in the Amazon still hunt with blow darts and crap and do just fine. Yes, they did have more advanced skills than we do today, since we use technology as a crutch, however these are also the same people that laid the foundation for today's modern agriculture. There were many failures along the way and that is how they learned and created new methods. The other thing to keep in mind is that if their harvest failed they would not have the back up food supplies we do today and many would perish due to starvation. Today, we don't have to worry about that since we have food available from many sources. I am not trying to say that their lives were exponentially harder than ours, all I was trying to say is that it wasn't as easy as we may think. When compared to now, when we have the added stress of jobs, money, tyrannical government, evil at every turn, not to mention diseases that and sicknesses that were unknown then and are still un treatable. All the things you stated above are because we turned away from God. Today's jobs are a joke (very few actually create anything of importance), they have caused us to leave nature/God and depend on modern technologies thus causing stress. Food for thought...when was the last time you got completely away from modern life and went into the mountains or any other remote location that is away from all things modern? Were you not at complete peace with yourself and felt as though you were connected to everything around you? I bet that feeling went away as soon as the phone rang or you jumped into your car...If you haven't been able to do this, try it out. You may be surprised...guess that is a luxury of living where I do. I am only 30 minutes away from being in the middle of nowhere.
The tyrannical government exists because we have been systematically removing God and any references to him. Our country was founded on the assumption that we all believe in something bigger than ourselves (God) but without any preference given to any particular religion (creation of man). Evil has always been here, but now that we have turned from God, it is allowed to affect us more. This is God's attempt to get us to turn back to him but many don't see this. All the diseases and sickness you mention I believe have either always been here or they are a creation of man because of our attempts to control or manipulate nature. Nature likes balance and we have tipped the scales by creating methods to survive disease and sickness rather than leaving it in God's hands. We have not allowed "the herd" to be culled so to speak. That being said I believe diseases are "evolving" in an attempt to balance nature and eventually nature will win, just look at how many people "survive" today that even 50 or 100 years ago they would not have. By not allowing only the fittest to survive we have halted evolution and are now beginning to back track since these bad genes/diseases were not allowed to disappear as nature has done for millenia. This idea also explains why we think we are the creators of our own destiny and can control nature, when in fact we are not in control, we only have the illusion of control Yeah, we can agree to disagree on that point. Still...great reply, and look forward to more. While I do subscribe to the assumption that as we turned away from Gods principles as a nation, things have gotten progressively worse... Things have gotten and will continue to get worse because we still refuse to see what is happening in front of us and continue to blame God or use this as the reason to not believe in God, when in fact we should be blaming ourselves and turning back to God. This is playing out exactly as Biblical (and many others)prophecy stated. If we continue down the path we are on...we will end up where we are going (Confucius quote)I still disagree on your view of potential prophets. You were given free will to believe what you would like. You must choose to seek out the information you want/need; you only see what you want to see, so if you are not actively looking for the signs and information you will miss it. You seem to have an open mind and are willing to consider other view points, otherwise why would you be on a conspiracy site? I am assuming you come here because you don't believe our leaders and media and like many of us, you think there is a lot we are not being told. How is this different? So..if they are happening and we just arent being told about it, how on earth can God expect us to find him if we are thwarted at every turn?? see statement aboveIf everyone who controls things are in bed with the devil, and they control all information but don't allow us to have it, isn't God kinda helping the Devil? God is not helping the devil. The devil is a necessary evil, without the devil we would have no reason to believe in God. Everything would be sunshine and rainbows. This goes back to how nature needs balance.Im searching, an honest search, and have asked God of only one thing...HIM. Its all I have ever asked. For Him to ignore me and instead come into the hearts of Godless people seems redundant. Those people werent searching yet theyve supposedly had God come into their life. Here I am searching, begging for something to give my life meaning, or humanity as a whole rather, and HE is too busy saving evil people who are evil for the sake of being evil while leaving us "good and decent" people behind. Perhaps your searching methods need to be changed, maybe you are being selfish in asking him to show himself to you, so that you will believe. That sounds more like defiance or a threat. Maybe he has shown you, but you weren't willing to see or hear because of your defiance to him. Belief must be based of faith first, proof comes later.Im gen Y and it aint FAIR lol Honestly, what bad is going to come from believing? Are you afraid you'll starting knocking on doors giving away Bibles or "gasp!" have a positive outlook on life knowing that everything is going to work out in the end? Belief in God has nothing to do with any organized religion, it comes from within yourself. Religion is a great way to meet others that have the same views as yourself and does provide an "expert" view on that particular religion but no one religion is perfect. They have all been created by man in an effort to show you a path to God. Some do this better than others...
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