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Senate Democrats say deficit package must include stimulus

Senate Democrats, feeling confident from their net gain of two seats in last week’s election, say any deficit-reduction package negotiated in the coming weeks must include stimulus measures.


They are fucking high... let's spend more... that will reduce the deficit... LOL!
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They've won the election, now they need to payoff their friends. It's what they always do, where do you think the deficit comes from?
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I dislike most democrats but sometimes stimulus is needed. Look at it as an investment back into the country. Will it work this time around?? Who knows but we should at least be open to it as long as it makes cents.
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Senate Democrats say deficit package must include stimulus

Senate Democrats, feeling confident from their net gain of two seats in last week’s election, say any deficit-reduction package negotiated in the coming weeks must include stimulus measures.


They are fucking high... let's spend more... that will reduce the deficit... LOL!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


What do you think got us out of the Bush Depression? Stimulus spending. Balancing the budget is not how you get an economy moving when the banks aren't lending. Economics 101.

As long as our money is debt-based, deficit spending (borrowing) is the only way to put new money in circulation.

Last Edited by Instant Karma on 11/14/2012 10:02 PM
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Re: Democrats are insane... deficit deal must include stimulus! LOL!
They've won the election, now they need to payoff their friends. It's what they always do, where do you think the deficit comes from?
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Creating money out of thin air, borrowed from the illegal unfederal reserve!
Weeeee
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WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is such new info.
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Re: Democrats are insane... deficit deal must include stimulus! LOL!
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Senate Democrats say deficit package must include stimulus

Senate Democrats, feeling confident from their net gain of two seats in last week’s election, say any deficit-reduction package negotiated in the coming weeks must include stimulus measures.


They are fucking high... let's spend more... that will reduce the deficit... LOL!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


What do you think got us out of the Bush Depression? Stimulus spending. Balancing the budget is not how you get an economy moving when the banks aren't lending. Economics 101.
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Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101.
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Re: Democrats are insane... deficit deal must include stimulus! LOL!
[link to thehill.com]
Senate Democrats say deficit package must include stimulus

Senate Democrats, feeling confident from their net gain of two seats in last week’s election, say any deficit-reduction package negotiated in the coming weeks must include stimulus measures.


They are fucking high... let's spend more... that will reduce the deficit... LOL!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


What do you think got us out of the Bush Depression? Stimulus spending. Balancing the budget is not how you get an economy moving when the banks aren't lending. Economics 101.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101.
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What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs.
Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money:

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Re: Democrats are insane... deficit deal must include stimulus! LOL!
They've won the election, now they need to payoff their friends. It's what they always do, where do you think the deficit comes from?
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Creating money out of thin air, borrowed from the illegal unfederal reserve!
Weeeee
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Stimulus doesn't always mean getting a check sent straight to you. It can mean job creation created by state projects.

Look at it like the game monopoly. We all have fake money but we still want to have the most of it. Its all we got.
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Senate Democrats say deficit package must include stimulus

Senate Democrats, feeling confident from their net gain of two seats in last week’s election, say any deficit-reduction package negotiated in the coming weeks must include stimulus measures.


They are fucking high... let's spend more... that will reduce the deficit... LOL!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


What do you think got us out of the Bush Depression? Stimulus spending. Balancing the budget is not how you get an economy moving when the banks aren't lending. Economics 101.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101.
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What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs.
 Quoting: Instant Karma

Except your point has no connections to what I said.

Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks.
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Is this a surprise ???

Oh wait... This is a Canadian making this post so we must assume that he/she had no idea of what has already been said during the election.
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What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs.
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If you're a government employee, then I can least understand the crap you're pushing or buy into.

The idea that big government expenditures will somehow be a magic pill for an ailing economy has been proven to be BS in -- beyond the US and Obamarama's big circus budgeting since 2008 -- countries as disparate as Japan on one hand (which has been in either a full fledged or mild recession since the 1990s) and Greece on the other.
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What do you think got us out of the Bush Depression? Stimulus spending. Balancing the budget is not how you get an economy moving when the banks aren't lending. Economics 101.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs.
 Quoting: Instant Karma

Except your point has no connections to what I said.

Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts.
Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money:

[link to www.webofdebt.com]

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Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs.
 Quoting: Instant Karma

Except your point has no connections to what I said.

Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


OMG,
Did you even graduate from high school?
You actually think that circulation of money between the banks and the government causes the economy to grow?

It requires businesses to borrow money and then invest it in NEW employees.

The key word is Businesses.
Businesses will only invest (BORROW) if they think the current environment will allow it to be successful.

The government can throw as much money as it wants around but that will only stimulate temporary jobs at best.
The actual business people are waiting for a sign that PEOPLE are willing to spend their money. Not whether the government has created shovel ready jobs.
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Gotta pay back their corporate masters for letting them stay in power...
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Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs.
 Quoting: Instant Karma

Except your point has no connections to what I said.

Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


LOL. More debt ain't the answer. And this is all that Obama and Bernanke have done to ``get you out of the Bush economic collapse``... more leverage and more debt.

NOTHING HAS BEEN FIXED SINCE 2008. NOTHING.
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What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs.
 Quoting: Instant Karma

Except your point has no connections to what I said.

Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


OMG,
Did you even graduate from high school?
You actually think that circulation of money between the banks and the government causes the economy to grow?

It requires businesses to borrow money and then invest it in NEW employees.

The key word is Businesses.
Businesses will only invest (BORROW) if they think the current environment will allow it to be successful.

The government can throw as much money as it wants around but that will only stimulate temporary jobs at best.
The actual business people are waiting for a sign that PEOPLE are willing to spend their money. Not whether the government has created shovel ready jobs.
 Quoting: mikebo2


The banks weren't lending in 2008. That's why we were losing 700K jobs a month by Q4. The private banks control the economy more than the government. If you want to understand how the economy really works go to the link in my signature.
Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money:

[link to www.webofdebt.com]

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What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs.
 Quoting: Instant Karma

Except your point has no connections to what I said.

Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


LOL. More debt ain't the answer. And this is all that Obama and Bernanke have done to ``get you out of the Bush economic collapse``... more leverage and more debt.

NOTHING HAS BEEN FIXED SINCE 2008. NOTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


Of course not because the problem is with the debt-based monetary system run by the private banking cartel. Changing Presidents wouldn't have altered that one bit.

The solution is to take away the power to create money from the private banks and give it back to the People, via the US Treasury. We need to start creating debt-free currency that isn't owed back to some bank at interest.
Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money:

[link to www.webofdebt.com]

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Re: Democrats are insane... deficit deal must include stimulus! LOL!
Throwing MONEY/DEFICT SPENDING at any problem ONLY exacerbates the problem ! They money IS OWED to the Federal Reserve Banksters, PLUS INTEREST/USURY !

About as bright a 'bleeding' a person in the 17-1800s. If at first it doesn't work, bleed so MORE !

Moronic to say the least, BUT, someone benefits, and at someone ELSES expense, who can't complain ( FUTURE taxpayers, yet UNBORN ! ).

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Gotta pay back their corporate masters for letting them stay in power...
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Exactly so they can cut more jobs and still give the big boys nice Christmas bonuses. AGAIN.

Yeah...that'll stimulate the economy...in the south of France.
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Reducing (republikan) debt isn't the priority and shouldn't be.
Stimulating the economy and regaining jobs is the priority.

Go dems!
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If I stop paying my bills and instead hand my money out to rich people, how does that "stimulate my economy". Those bitches won't even buy me a drink!
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Except your point has no connections to what I said.

Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks.
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All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


LOL. More debt ain't the answer. And this is all that Obama and Bernanke have done to ``get you out of the Bush economic collapse``... more leverage and more debt.

NOTHING HAS BEEN FIXED SINCE 2008. NOTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


Of course not because the problem is with the debt-based monetary system run by the private banking cartel. Changing Presidents wouldn't have altered that one bit.

The solution is to take away the power to create money from the private banks and give it back to the People, via the US Treasury. We need to start creating debt-free currency that isn't owed back to some bank at interest.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


Wow... I mean wow !!!!
BANKS DON't PRINT MONEY.
Debt Free Currency ?????
Interest on money loaned is how the banks make money. Otherwise there is no point of even having a bank.
My God you are talking about Communism.
With Communism there is no need for banks.
The government decides who gets what and how much.

Your statements are beyond belief.
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Re: Democrats are insane... deficit deal must include stimulus! LOL!
Reducing (republikan) debt isn't the priority and shouldn't be.
Stimulating the economy and regaining jobs is the priority.

Go dems!
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The stupidity....must not blow up....the stupidity too unreal....must keep cool.....the stupidity....too insane...must not blow lid....

Yes folks, this is actually how an O'bot thinks. They think that by having Santa Bernanke create money out of thin air and throw it at failing institutions it's going to fix everything...

The stupidity....words cannot describe. I feel sorry for you people actually. When the house of cards comes crashing down you will be left with nothing. Just as your messiah has planned all along.

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Reducing (republikan) debt isn't the priority and shouldn't be.
Stimulating the economy and regaining jobs is the priority.

Go dems!
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LOL you gonna love it when the bond market says FUCK YA AMERICA YOU ARE BANKRUPT and then the government goes kaboom Greece-style.
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All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


LOL. More debt ain't the answer. And this is all that Obama and Bernanke have done to ``get you out of the Bush economic collapse``... more leverage and more debt.

NOTHING HAS BEEN FIXED SINCE 2008. NOTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


Of course not because the problem is with the debt-based monetary system run by the private banking cartel. Changing Presidents wouldn't have altered that one bit.

The solution is to take away the power to create money from the private banks and give it back to the People, via the US Treasury. We need to start creating debt-free currency that isn't owed back to some bank at interest.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


Wow... I mean wow !!!!
BANKS DON't PRINT MONEY.
Debt Free Currency ?????
Interest on money loaned is how the banks make money. Otherwise there is no point of even having a bank.
My God you are talking about Communism.
With Communism there is no need for banks.
The government decides who gets what and how much.

Your statements are beyond belief.
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Banks don't PRINT the money? Then tell me what all those money plates and printing presses are doing at the FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS owned by the following PRIVATE BANKS:

Rothschild Bank of London
Warburg Bank of Hamburg
Rothschild Bank of Berlin
Lehman Brothers of New York
Lazard Brothers of Paris
Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York
Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
Goldman, Sachs of New York
Warburg Bank of Amsterdam
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York

A.K.A. The 'Fed'

The 'Fed' prints money and charges the U.S. treasury INTEREST on the money they print. It's not 'free'.

The IRS collects the INTEREST on the LOAN. Nothing you pay in taxes EVER goes to the Federal Government.
You are either a paid shill or totally ignorant to the facts...either way..

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All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


LOL. More debt ain't the answer. And this is all that Obama and Bernanke have done to ``get you out of the Bush economic collapse``... more leverage and more debt.

NOTHING HAS BEEN FIXED SINCE 2008. NOTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


Of course not because the problem is with the debt-based monetary system run by the private banking cartel. Changing Presidents wouldn't have altered that one bit.

The solution is to take away the power to create money from the private banks and give it back to the People, via the US Treasury. We need to start creating debt-free currency that isn't owed back to some bank at interest.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


Wow... I mean wow !!!!
BANKS DON't PRINT MONEY.
Debt Free Currency ?????
Interest on money loaned is how the banks make money. Otherwise there is no point of even having a bank.
My God you are talking about Communism.
With Communism there is no need for banks.
The government decides who gets what and how much.

Your statements are beyond belief.
 Quoting: mikebo2


You are woefully ignorant of how our monetary system actually works. The Federal Reserve System creates all of the money in circulation (coins excluded), not the government. If you don't understand what that means, please educate yourself.

BTW, most of the money in circulation is not PRINTED money, but checkbook money, just numbers in a computer.

Every loan made by a private bank creates new money out of nothing. That is a fact.

[link to www.webofdebt.com]

Last Edited by Instant Karma on 11/14/2012 11:09 PM
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Economics 101??? LOL more like discredited keynesians economics 101.
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What is discredited is the idea that cutting taxes on the rich creates jobs.
 Quoting: Instant Karma

Except your point has no connections to what I said.

Keynes and Paul Krugman are hacks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440618


All of the money in circulation comes from the banks. If they aren't lending, the economy will collapse. Government borrowing from the banks is the only way to get money in circulation if the banks aren't lending enough to businesses or individuals. That is what got us out of the Bush economic collapse, not tax cuts.
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banks are lending dude. The zero interest policy from the fed is going through at least 2016.
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mikebo2 ..... OBVIOUSLY NEVER heard of Lincoln, and greenback dollars OR, Andrew Jackson's fight to keep PRIVATE BANKS from issuing worthless paper and gaining USURY/interest from it.

Gold/silver was and WILL be the one 'currency' the parasitic politicians and banksters CAN'T inflate BECAUSE there is a limited supply kind of like your knowledge/brain power !

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