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Secessionist movement in America ????

 
Indego
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Secessionist movement in America ????
Well aparently there are close to 1 million or more Americans that signed Petitions for their local state governments to succede grime the union .
And Obama has stated if they had 25 thousand votes congress would consider it.
My question is what are they going to do if they are given what they ask ?
Have they organized ? Have a leader or land to inhabbit?
Or are they infact a bunch of soar losers with some sort of complexes ?

Hey it's everymans right to venture out into the unknown but what exactly would be the purpose if there's no set plan?
VLR!!
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its not america anymore
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It's people upset about Obama that have no idea the complex structures of economics and society. They are venting their frustration through these petitions. And keep in mind that after 25,000 signatures, they aren't obligated to do anything, they can respond to it, but based on the past petitions that have garnered much more support that have received no formal recognition, these people are holding their breath for nothing.

As much as I would love to see a state try to "survive on its own" and see the masses of people flock back into the United States when they are worse off than people in Cuba, but sadly it won't ever happen.
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You don't ask to secede......you just do it. This tells me that this isn't the time....but soon perhaps. The point of secession is to create a new paradigm, not to get the approval of the old one..
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Yes over a million of us are not happy with Obama and the direction he is tacking this country.

While it is useless (as we all know) we at least stated our opinion.
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It will never happen.

Obama nor anyone else in government ever said anything remotely similar to 25 thousand votes will get Congress to consider it.

One million people is about one half of 1% of the voting age public.

And as Trinity said, they'd sooner send in the military than let a state go.

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Yes over a million of us are not happy with Obama and the direction he is tacking this country.

While it is useless (as we all know) we at least stated our opinion.
 Quoting: mikebo2


Way more people stated they are dissatisfied by voting for Romney, almost 50 million approximation. We understand.
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The Republic is dead. Democracy(inversed Communism)is alive.
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Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession.

Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though.
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Re: Secessionist movement in America ????
are you kidding

they will never been allowed to leave the union

what do you think the civil war was about?

you think it was over slavery?

oh no my friend

it was about STATES RIGHTS

if the south had won we'd be in a very different country right now

they will NEVER allow states to leave the union

they will KILL THEM before they allow that

count on it
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



Don't make me laugh ... The only reason the slaves were freed is because the south was starting to use the slaves as soldiers thus out
numberIng the north a giving the confederates the upper-hand so the north sent in their plants and spread the lies of freedom ... Without telling the slaves that they would have to provide for themselves and abide by the laws .. Heck the north welcomed the freed slaves in their prisons and jails as a new form of slavery that still actually exists today ...
So stick to the topic and don't make arse hole assumptions .
VLR!!
Indego (OP)

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Re: Secessionist movement in America ????
Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession.

Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they?
So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think?
VLR!!
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Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession.

Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they?
So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think?
 Quoting: Indego


You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..?

There are 300 million plus in this country.
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what do you think the civil war was about?


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Money.
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Re: Secessionist movement in America ????
are you kidding

they will never been allowed to leave the union

what do you think the civil war was about?

you think it was over slavery?

oh no my friend

it was about STATES RIGHTS

if the south had won we'd be in a very different country right now

they will NEVER allow states to leave the union

they will KILL THEM before they allow that

count on it
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


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Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession.

Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they?
So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think?
 Quoting: Indego


You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..?

There are 300 million plus in this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Relax, no matter how many people want it, no one is going to do it because they know it's a BAD IDEA. The majority of people actually understand how economics and how state, local and federal governments work and cooperate. There are a lot of idiots in Americans that have absolutely no idea how politics, economics or societies work and support the idea of succession; luckily, there is a large amount that do not support succession because they are more educated.
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what do you think the civil war was about?
you think it was over slavery?
oh no my friend
it was about STATES RIGHTS
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


^^^^^ TRUTH right there ^^^^^^

clappa

history books describe it as a
slavery issue only to blind you
of your actual loss of rights.
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Not about actually leaving the union. This is probably the Republicans trying to tell Democrats that they don't have a mandate. The republicans are trying to gain leverage, largely in regards to the fiscal cliff.

It's evidence that neither party is willing to negotiate. Over the cliff it is then.
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Holy cow you were taught some flawed flawed history. I bet you go to High School in Alabama and believe the confederacy will rise again lmao


Actually no , from the north and learned history of America as well as others and the truth as harsh as it seems is true .... Why else would the south surrender they out numbered the north something like ten to one with their slaves , oh let me guess you're a bleeding heart thinking that we owe the slave a debt or something. Fuckin idiots .... In fact. I'd call it shinanagaans since they were infact a faulty product purchased with the intent of labor ... They just wouldn't work ... So they were beaten so what ... Ever work in corporate now that's abuse... I for one see it how it is ... If you pander to a whining imp they'll just keep whining ... Got problem then go to your nearest inner-city crack house and see for your self ... Your hard earned money ( taxes) being spent on rocks ... Heck the slave Is still the slave it's master is now a drug ... And the dealer of it
VLR!!
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Holy cow you were taught some flawed flawed history. I bet you go to High School in Alabama and believe the confederacy will rise again lmao
 Quoting: Indego


Actually no , from the north and learned history of America as well as others and the truth as harsh as it seems is true .... Why else would the south surrender they out numbered the north something like ten to one with their slaves , oh let me guess you're a bleeding heart thinking that we owe the slave a debt or something. Fuckin idiots .... In fact. I'd call it shinanagaans since they were infact a faulty product purchased with the intent of labor ... They just wouldn't work ... So they were beaten so what ... Ever work in corporate now that's abuse... I for one see it how it is ... If you pander to a whining imp they'll just keep whining ... Got problem then go to your nearest inner-city crack house and see for your self ... Your hard earned money ( taxes) being spent on rocks ... Heck the slave Is still the slave it's master is now a drug ... And the dealer of it


It's obvious by the way you type and you present your "argument" that you are either a troll, or an uneducated fuckwad working at McDonalds.

Keep preaching your ignorance to nobody, sweetie-pie.
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Re: Secessionist movement in America ????
are you kidding

they will never been allowed to leave the union

what do you think the civil war was about?

you think it was over slavery?

oh no my friend

it was about STATES RIGHTS

if the south had won we'd be in a very different country right now

they will NEVER allow states to leave the union

they will KILL THEM before they allow that

count on it
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


The Civil War was about VAMPIRES
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Re: Secessionist movement in America ????
Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession.

Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they?
So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think?
 Quoting: Indego


You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..?

There are 300 million plus in this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


you're right

I know 4-5 people right now that fit this
category and they had no idea there were petitions
online about it. And even more think the
petitions are a trap to gather an Obama hit list.
I have never seen resentment towards an administration
like this in all my 50 yrs of life.

So out of every 1 person who signed,
there are 50 who agree with it but
didn't open themselves up to the
FEMA list trap.

war is coming

you can bet the bank on it
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Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession.

Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they?
So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think?
 Quoting: Indego


You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..?

There are 300 million plus in this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Relax, no matter how many people want it, no one is going to do it because they know it's a BAD IDEA. The majority of people actually understand how economics and how state, local and federal governments work and cooperate. There are a lot of idiots in Americans that have absolutely no idea how politics, economics or societies work and support the idea of succession; luckily, there is a large amount that do not support succession because they are more educated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14541046


A lot of very educated people find the idea plausible.

Our country would never exist if we hadn't seceded from Great Britain.

The fact remains that our country is literally bankrupt, if you knew a boat was sinking and had the opportunity to escape wouldn't you take it?
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Re: Secessionist movement in America ????
are you kidding

they will never been allowed to leave the union

what do you think the civil war was about?

you think it was over slavery?

oh no my friend

it was about STATES RIGHTS

if the south had won we'd be in a very different country right now

they will NEVER allow states to leave the union

they will KILL THEM before they allow that

count on it
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


AND they now have some handy lists with people names on it, all neatly delivered to their door.
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This is just a protest...

If these people were serious they would be petitioning their state legislators and governors...

The President has no say in secession...
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The Civil War was about VAMPIRES
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you are partially correct

the Banking Cartel of the Vatican Rothschilds
were sucking the freedom blood out of
America.
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This is just a protest...

If these people were serious they would be petitioning their state legislators and governors...

The President has no say in secession...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


A cry for help.
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Well aparently there are close to 1 million or more Americans that signed Petitions for their local state governments to succede grime the union .
And Obama has stated if they had 25 thousand votes congress would consider it.
My question is what are they going to do if they are given what they ask ?
Have they organized ? Have a leader or land to inhabbit?
Or are they infact a bunch of soar losers with some sort of complexes ?

Hey it's everymans right to venture out into the unknown but what exactly would be the purpose if there's no set plan?
 Quoting: Indego


they all have monobrowes
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Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they?
So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think?
 Quoting: Indego


You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..?

There are 300 million plus in this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Relax, no matter how many people want it, no one is going to do it because they know it's a BAD IDEA. The majority of people actually understand how economics and how state, local and federal governments work and cooperate. There are a lot of idiots in Americans that have absolutely no idea how politics, economics or societies work and support the idea of succession; luckily, there is a large amount that do not support succession because they are more educated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14541046


A lot of very educated people find the idea plausible.

Our country would never exist if we hadn't seceded from Great Britain.

The fact remains that our country is literally bankrupt, if you knew a boat was sinking and had the opportunity to escape wouldn't you take it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


You are comparing two COMPLETELY different scenarios in two COMPLETELY different time frames, do you know that? You are fooling yourself if you think you will be better off as an individual state than you will be with the United States. You obviously have no idea how trade, both regionally and internationally work, not to mention the problems that occur with land use, rights, policies and taxes.

Please.. don't be one of the many uneducated individuals in this country. Do some research, talk to some professors and read a book or two regarding the topic at hand. You will see just how wrong this whole notion truly is.
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secession comes from the respective governor.

the petitions are shit.






theyre just a bunch of revolutiontards using virtual pickets.
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stupid fuckin desperate ppl

all ready to jump on the bowel movement bandwagon

just like occupy wallstreet - everyone was willing to join the pickets til they found out WHO was funding & backing them (thanks to shr/wonk/trin/jay/myself - GLP) fkn soros, cloward-piven, commie movement.

do not jump on the revolution bandwagon - do your homework first.

they have been prepping for a national uprising for a few yrs now....army purchased 6 mil in riot equipt in 2008
Thread: U.S. Army To Buy $6 Million Of Riot Equipment

all the rounds & ammo purchased by the feds & diff agencies

cmon.....dont be a yes-tard.

use your fuckin heads.
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 Quoting: Phennommennonn



i want you all to see this - fkn shits been PLANNED

look at this post

Tuesday, November 25, 2008
The Break Up of the USA into Six Parts
[link to aangirfan.blogspot.com]

and the google hits for topics and the DATES discussed
[link to www.google.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


if you can recall - mr alx ph0ney was pontificating this shit a few yrs ago - 4th url down
[link to www.google.com]

and everyone else jumped on the wagon

Posted on May 19, 2010
Breakup Of U.S. Is Inevitable
[link to chuckbaldwinlive.com]

July 26, 2010
The Breakup of the United States
by Michael S. Rozeff
[link to www.lewrockwell.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


yet another 'map' famous back in 08 & 09
[link to 1.bp.blogspot.com]
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watch it people

this shits been planned.

the blueprint made as far back as 2008

heres a recent from glen beck

A Texas judge has come under fire for comments he made about the potential for civil unrest in this country. The judge believes that contingency plans must be put in place in the event that some sort of worst-case scenario becomes a reality.

JUDGE: [The president is] going to try to hand over the sovereignty of the United States to the UN. Okay, what’s going to happen when that happens? I’m thinking worst case scenario now.

VOICE: Right. Right. I understand.

JUDGE: Civil unrest, civil disobedience, civil war maybe. I mean, we’re not talking just a few riots here and demonstrations. We’re talking, we’re talking Lexington and Concord, take up arms and get rid of the guy.


[link to www.glennbeck.com]
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Re: Secessionist movement in America ????
Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession.

Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they?
So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think?
 Quoting: Indego


You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..?

There are 300 million plus in this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Yeah but where to ? And how or with what .. Logically speaking they clearly haven't thought this through .... Hey if your American you are free to leave ... Heck travel. See the world for what it is and then since you're American welcome back.... That's the beauty of being an American it's
Time we started teaching what it means to be American since these younger generations clearly have no clue!
VLR!!
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its not america anymore
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the Republic and Constitution
was dissolved in 1871 when Grant
signed the Act of 1871 giving
the land of Washington DC to
the Vatican Bankers and creating
a shadow government under a
blanket corporation known as
THE US CORPORATION.

If you or your children have a
Birth Certificate then you are
a subsidiary CORPORATION of the
US CORPORATION. You are an asset
of this corporation, meaning ...
they own your ass and your children
and ALL your property. They just let
you keep it so you will maintain it
and grow it for them. One day
they intend to collect on that debt.

if you want your Republic and
Constitution back ....

you're gonna have to fight for it.

The Vatican Banking Cartel
will NOT go quietly into the night.

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