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Secessionist movement in America ????

 
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You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..?

There are 300 million plus in this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Relax, no matter how many people want it, no one is going to do it because they know it's a BAD IDEA. The majority of people actually understand how economics and how state, local and federal governments work and cooperate. There are a lot of idiots in Americans that have absolutely no idea how politics, economics or societies work and support the idea of succession; luckily, there is a large amount that do not support succession because they are more educated.
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A lot of very educated people find the idea plausible.

Our country would never exist if we hadn't seceded from Great Britain.

The fact remains that our country is literally bankrupt, if you knew a boat was sinking and had the opportunity to escape wouldn't you take it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


You are comparing two COMPLETELY different scenarios in two COMPLETELY different time frames, do you know that? You are fooling yourself if you think you will be better off as an individual state than you will be with the United States. You obviously have no idea how trade, both regionally and internationally work, not to mention the problems that occur with land use, rights, policies and taxes.

Please.. don't be one of the many uneducated individuals in this country. Do some research, talk to some professors and read a book or two regarding the topic at hand. You will see just how wrong this whole notion truly is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14541046


This is how the civil war started right here.

Listen man I don't want to see the union fall apart.
But it's happening, not from the threat of secession; but our own government allowing infinite printing of currency, and outsourcing of jobs.

This is why your hearing talk of secession.

Regardless of secession or not the entire thing is imploding.
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Yeah but where to ?
 Quoting: Indego


oh they have no intentions of leaving.
it's put up or shut up time.
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Relax, no matter how many people want it, no one is going to do it because they know it's a BAD IDEA. The majority of people actually understand how economics and how state, local and federal governments work and cooperate. There are a lot of idiots in Americans that have absolutely no idea how politics, economics or societies work and support the idea of succession; luckily, there is a large amount that do not support succession because they are more educated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14541046


A lot of very educated people find the idea plausible.

Our country would never exist if we hadn't seceded from Great Britain.

The fact remains that our country is literally bankrupt, if you knew a boat was sinking and had the opportunity to escape wouldn't you take it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


You are comparing two COMPLETELY different scenarios in two COMPLETELY different time frames, do you know that? You are fooling yourself if you think you will be better off as an individual state than you will be with the United States. You obviously have no idea how trade, both regionally and internationally work, not to mention the problems that occur with land use, rights, policies and taxes.

Please.. don't be one of the many uneducated individuals in this country. Do some research, talk to some professors and read a book or two regarding the topic at hand. You will see just how wrong this whole notion truly is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14541046


This is how the civil war started right here.

Listen man I don't want to see the union fall apart.
But it's happening, not from the threat of secession; but our own government allowing infinite printing of currency, and outsourcing of jobs.

This is why your hearing talk of secession.

Regardless of secession or not the entire thing is imploding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


The civil war was in no way, shape, or form close to what we are experiencing today. You just can't make that argument and expect people (outside of GLP) to take you seriously.

Obviously the economy isn't doing well, and people are hitting the bottom of the barrel. But guess what? America has seen worse, and been in worse situations and they got out of them stronger than ever. Have some faith, do your part, enjoy life, and good things will happen to you.
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Yes over a million of us are not happy with Obama and the direction he is tacking this country.

While it is useless (as we all know) we at least stated our opinion.
 Quoting: mikebo2


That's what I'm lookin for a reasonable response... But hey if you don't like a thing you're a free American do something to change it , you don't like your job get a new one ya don't like your house move you're free start acting like it .... Heck the mid west is empty enough to enjoy your solitude and or migrate with those of like minds and build your own communities Its done often so just do you yakno
VLR!!
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Listen man I don't want to see the union fall apart.
But it's happening, not from the threat of secession; but our own government allowing infinite printing of currency, and outsourcing of jobs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


this was by design

before the New World Order can be offered,
they have to destroy the old one so the
people have no other options.

you are witnessing the intentional
destruction of America for that purpose.

people who are hungry will sell
their soul to anybody.

they will exploit that
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Re: Secessionist movement in America ????
are you kidding

they will never been allowed to leave the union

what do you think the civil war was about?

you think it was over slavery?

oh no my friend

it was about STATES RIGHTS

if the south had won we'd be in a very different country right now

they will NEVER allow states to leave the union

they will KILL THEM before they allow that

count on it
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


And this is how the Second Civil War starts.

Prepare. It's coming.

Be on the winning side, the side of liberty and justice, the side of states rights, the side of freedom.

The Federal Government has overextended it's reach, and it's time to reign them in.
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11/15/2012 12:11 AM
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The masses who want session will come together when the civil war begins
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are you kidding

they will never been allowed to leave the union

what do you think the civil war was about?

you think it was over slavery?

oh no my friend

it was about STATES RIGHTS

if the south had won we'd be in a very different country right now

they will NEVER allow states to leave the union

they will KILL THEM before they allow that

count on it
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Trinity is historically correct on this. Lincoln was never known as an Abolishionist until the Emancipation Proclimation, he didn't even concieve of the Emancipation Proclamation until the middle of the war, 1862, and didn't sign it until 1863...

Support for the war was waivering, and many in the North were just saying let the South go their seperate way, Lincoln was losing critical support, so without any other choice, he locked in the one minority block of support that would carry him through to the end of the conflict, the Northern Abolishionists.

Prior to the Emancipation Proclamation the Northerner's in Congress had never had enough votes to even threatened to abolish slavery, they merely wanted to tax it...

Mostly the war itself was about trade disputes and the growing power of the central government...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 11/15/2012 12:14 AM
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11/15/2012 12:12 AM
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Re: Secessionist movement in America ????
Believe me there are far more than a million who would like to see secession.

Some are smart enough not to put their information out there though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Those were the most recent numbers .... If you have others what are they?
So what's the plan of these 50 some odd million people are they going sit back and mumble under their breath like cowards or stand like real Americans .... Hmmm what do you think?
 Quoting: Indego


You really think only 1 million would like to see secession..?

There are 300 million plus in this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Yeah but where to ? And how or with what .. Logically speaking they clearly haven't thought this through .... Hey if your American you are free to leave ... Heck travel. See the world for what it is and then since you're American welcome back.... That's the beauty of being an American it's
Time we started teaching what it means to be American since these younger generations clearly have no clue!
 Quoting: Indego


I've been around Europe and Asia.

The level of appreciation I have for this place is ineffable.

That's why its so important to fight for this.
Over the past 20 years I've seen federal government grow uncontrollably and state rights diminish.

All this talk of secession is really about capping the fed and returning the power to the people. No one really wants to see another civil war.
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11/15/2012 12:13 AM

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Yeah but where to ?
 Quoting: Indego


oh they have no intentions of leaving.
it's put up or shut up time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27780658


Really!!!? When ? Where ? They had their chance when all the lights went out ... So when again oh that's right not going to happen if it means any of the youth of this country to organize on anything other than a chat site or gaming console ... So back to your Xbox
VLR!!
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Nanny state won't be able to keep entilist happy another 24 months... Maybe 36 max... Checks don't come game on! Be ready!
The Southern Guard already planning ranks...
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A lot of very educated people find the idea plausible.

Our country would never exist if we hadn't seceded from Great Britain.

The fact remains that our country is literally bankrupt, if you knew a boat was sinking and had the opportunity to escape wouldn't you take it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


You are comparing two COMPLETELY different scenarios in two COMPLETELY different time frames, do you know that? You are fooling yourself if you think you will be better off as an individual state than you will be with the United States. You obviously have no idea how trade, both regionally and internationally work, not to mention the problems that occur with land use, rights, policies and taxes.

Please.. don't be one of the many uneducated individuals in this country. Do some research, talk to some professors and read a book or two regarding the topic at hand. You will see just how wrong this whole notion truly is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14541046


This is how the civil war started right here.

Listen man I don't want to see the union fall apart.
But it's happening, not from the threat of secession; but our own government allowing infinite printing of currency, and outsourcing of jobs.

This is why your hearing talk of secession.

Regardless of secession or not the entire thing is imploding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


The civil war was in no way, shape, or form close to what we are experiencing today. You just can't make that argument and expect people (outside of GLP) to take you seriously.

Obviously the economy isn't doing well, and people are hitting the bottom of the barrel. But guess what? America has seen worse, and been in worse situations and they got out of them stronger than ever. Have some faith, do your part, enjoy life, and good things will happen to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14541046


America has never seen $17 trillion in debt.
Indego (OP)

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That's why you have to accept the change that we have been working towards and hope that there is enough purple in the house of congress to get some progress passed
VLR!!
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This is just a protest...

If these people were serious they would be petitioning their state legislators and governors...

The President has no say in secession...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


and what you haven't figured out yet
is that every state is now also a CORPORATION
owned by the US CORPORATION. Each state
is an asset to the Feds.

the only entity who can secede are the people
who reside within that territory.
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Dear Red States:

We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we've decided we're leaving.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784691


fvck off you commie bastard

we gonna run your ass back
to Khazar where you belong.
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11/15/2012 12:18 AM
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This thread proves the only way out is civil war... Draw the lines... Let's do this!
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11/15/2012 12:19 AM
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The masses who want session will come together when the civil war begins
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by the millions !!
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Secede! Secession!

Let the Blue States be the Enlightened
States of America.

Dear Red States:

We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we've decided we're leaving.

We in New York intend to form our own country and we're taking the other Blue States with us.

In case you aren't aware that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and the rest of the Northeast.

We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and especially to the people of the new country of The Enlightened States of America (E.S.A).

To sum up briefly:

You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.

We get stem cell research and the best beaches.

We get Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren. You get Bobby Jindal and Todd Akin.

We get the Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand.

We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.

We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss.

We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs.

You get Alabama.

We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.

With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of 80% of the country's fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation's fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90% of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the US low sulphur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.

With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all obese Americans and their projected health care costs, 92% of all US mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.

We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory, 53% that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties.

We're taking the good weed too. You can have that crap they grow in Mexico.

Sincerely,

Citizen of the Enlightened States of America
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784691


buhbye
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"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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This thread proves the only way out is civil war... Draw the lines... Let's do this!
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lock and load mutha fvcka
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This thread proves the only way out is civil war... Draw the lines... Let's do this!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27511319


No. Not again. Not ever again. Go back to your reenactments.
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This thread proves the only way out is civil war... Draw the lines... Let's do this!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27511319


No. Not again. Not ever again. Go back to your reenactments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Afraid not the blue must fall forever more!
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Dear Red States:

We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we've decided we're leaving.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784691


fvck off you commie bastard

we gonna run your ass back
to Khazar where you belong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27780658


Haha way to prove your point, cro-magnum asshole. Go back to banging your cousin. Have fun with secession.
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Dear Red States:

We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we've decided we're leaving.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784691


fvck off you commie bastard

we gonna run your ass back
to Khazar where you belong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27780658


Haha way to prove your point, cro-magnum asshole. Go back to banging your cousin. Have fun with secession.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784691


^^^^^Demofuck
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This thread proves the only way out is civil war... Draw the lines... Let's do this!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27511319


No. Not again. Not ever again. Go back to your reenactments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19320175


Afraid not the blue must fall forever more!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27511319


damned
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Dear Red States:

We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we've decided we're leaving.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784691


fvck off you commie bastard

we gonna run your ass back
to Khazar where you belong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27780658


Haha way to prove your point, cro-magnum asshole. Go back to banging your cousin. Have fun with secession.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784691


Wait a minute, you were the one posting YOU wanted to Secede a minute ago...fuckin' whelcher...

Don't let the door hit you in the ass...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Secede! Secession!

Let the Blue States be the Enlightened
States of America.

Dear Red States:

We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we've decided we're leaving.

We in New York intend to form our own country and we're taking the other Blue States with us.

In case you aren't aware that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and the rest of the Northeast.

We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and especially to the people of the new country of The Enlightened States of America (E.S.A).

To sum up briefly:

You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.

We get stem cell research and the best beaches.

We get Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren. You get Bobby Jindal and Todd



Blah blah blah ....
How bout some of those enlightened new englanders travel south and educate some of these bumpkin ass southern fools ... They gullible as anything .... Heck they swear they hate the white devils but openly worship them so tell em anything they buy it .... Or how bout people just stop wasting time and energy complaining and devlpp some new lucrative businesses or venture out into the unknown and make way for yourselves as American on forgien soil
VLR!!
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Dear Red States:

We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we've decided we're leaving.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784691


fvck off you commie bastard

we gonna run your ass back
to Khazar where you belong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27780658


Haha way to prove your point, cro-magnum asshole. Go back to banging your cousin. Have fun with secession.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784691


Wait a minute, you were the one posting YOU wanted to Secede a minute ago...fuckin' whelcher...

Don't let the door hit you in the ass...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


+1
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Yeah but where to ?
 Quoting: Indego


oh they have no intentions of leaving.
it's put up or shut up time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27780658


Really!!!? When ? Where ? They had their chance when all the lights went out ...
 Quoting: Indego


sorry to inform you but several regions
in the south including Texas have their own
privatized electrical grid.
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Well Obama wants the destruction of the evil Colonialist empire of America.

He just may go for the secessionist movement.




That would make things very interesting!
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Dear Red States:

We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we've decided we're leaving.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784691


fvck off you commie bastard

we gonna run your ass back
to Khazar where you belong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27780658


Haha way to prove your point, cro-magnum asshole. Go back to banging your cousin. Have fun with secession.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27784691


Wait a minute, you were the one posting YOU wanted to Secede a minute ago...fuckin' whelcher...

Don't let the door hit you in the ass...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


You aren't that bright, are you? I was educating the "secessionists" as to what it would be like if they really followed through on their threats. I.e. the south would be royally fucked.

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