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Us versus Them: The systematic use of division to destroy dissent. And how it affects even this last bastion of truth.

 
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Us versus Them: The systematic use of division to destroy dissent. And how it affects even this last bastion of truth.
Can it be said that we are a united people, here in the United States anymore? Can anyone tell me what we as a country stand for now, in this present day?

Every election is 50% versus 50% in the media, then, sure enough, 50% and 50% in reality.

Are real people even voting any more?

Or has the media becomes so powerful in its confirmation bias attraction that most people simply align with their affinitive pole when the switch is flicked:

This one is North. I most side with North.

This one is South. I most side with South.

And both would say together: Since magnetic poles repel each other, the other pole must be my enemy.

I have noticed even on forums like these, the tentacles of disagreement on the basis of talking points from the MSM now run rife. I remember when questionable things were always questionable despite partisanship! Where is that now?

I'm not talking about being a moderate among partisan politics. I'm talking about being the fringe of the lunatic fringe -- the conspiracy theorists, who despite partisan pole-shifts would see through the politicking divisiveness and ask the questions the mainstream media would oft ignore! And collectively, through that discourse, would arrive at answers not bandied about by any MSM source.

Where is that now? What happened?
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Re: Us versus Them: The systematic use of division to destroy dissent. And how it affects even this last bastion of truth.
Anyone?
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11/15/2012 01:14 AM
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Can it be said that we are a united people, here in the United States anymore? Can anyone tell me what we as a country stand for now, in this present day?

Every election is 50% versus 50% in the media, then, sure enough, 50% and 50% in reality.

Are real people even voting any more?

Or has the media becomes so powerful in its confirmation bias attraction that most people simply align with their affinitive pole when the switch is flicked:

This one is North. I most side with North.

This one is South. I most side with South.

And both would say together: Since magnetic poles repel each other, the other pole must be my enemy.

I have noticed even on forums like these, the tentacles of disagreement on the basis of talking points from the MSM now run rife. I remember when questionable things were always questionable despite partisanship! Where is that now?

I'm not talking about being a moderate among partisan politics. I'm talking about being the fringe of the lunatic fringe -- the conspiracy theorists, who despite partisan pole-shifts would see through the politicking divisiveness and ask the questions the mainstream media would oft ignore! And collectively, through that discourse, would arrive at answers not bandied about by any MSM source.

Where is that now? What happened?
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a sad truth you are pointing. from here it is seen clearly.
andreidita

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Re: Us versus Them: The systematic use of division to destroy dissent. And how it affects even this last bastion of truth.
maybe the common cause should be sought in the youngsters.
in romania 2/3 of the voting population does not go to vote, because this old tired game of politics does not appeal to them in any way.
they yearn for something different. but are too confused to see what this might be
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Re: Us versus Them: The systematic use of division to destroy dissent. And how it affects even this last bastion of truth.
human dignity is the overarching value which includes both freedom of self and compassion for other human beings
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Re: Us versus Them: The systematic use of division to destroy dissent. And how it affects even this last bastion of truth.
when humanity will reach the point when mature people will listen to the voice of wise elders, who in turn will listen to the ways children see the future...
after all children are the future...
and their mothers love them more than everything else...
but who listens to the mothers...
and how many mothers have the wisdom to listen to their children...

instead we have it backwards...delusional old males driven by power thirst make the rules and take the decisions...keeping the world forever in the loop created by their delusion
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Re: Us versus Them: The systematic use of division to destroy dissent. And how it affects even this last bastion of truth.
The media, doesnt look to you to tell you what news is, what cool is, whats popular.. etc. It just displays it as whatever it wants at that moment, makes it seem as popular as it wants, it sets the standard for the times, it creates your reality so you can obey and fall in line. It doesnt look to you for news, you look to it for news. It will make you like or dislike whatever it wants.

Whats the difference if 50% vote for the same guy in different body bags. They just extension of the puppeteers behind the scenes.

Americans cant speak for a nation that was never theirs, what is an american, is it the blood that makes him an american, or his identification with being gay, white or black, etc.. no one can speak on behalf of all americans, it neither hot or cold, multiculturalism allows for major sway of public opinion. Jews instigate confusion.
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Thanks for the replies.
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Re: Us versus Them: The systematic use of division to destroy dissent. And how it affects even this last bastion of truth.
human dignity is the overarching value which includes both freedom of self and compassion for other human beings
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This.