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are you sure you know what a govt is? my ideas. feel free to torch em

 
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are you sure you know what a govt is? my ideas. feel free to torch em
What is a govt?

The govt is the member/members of a society who ratify laws

To put it in simpler terms, they are the members of society who declare that a rule is actually a 'law,' and will be enforced, by whomever has agreed to enforce it

The members of govt may or may not have actually thought of or written the law. In fact, in the U.S. today, lobbyists write many of the laws

A lobbyist is a representative sent from a large company to 'inform' lawmakers about their industry

A member of the govt may or may not actually enforce the law (in a small society, maybe a tribe of fifty, a tribal cheif may also enforce the laws for example)

In the end, the truly defining role of a member of govt, is that they have input on whether a rule is actually a 'law' or not, and will be enforced

The force behind a govt

To understand how force and govt are interwoven, we need to go back to the beginning



Imagine that you wake up on a desert island in the middle of the ocean

There are ten people on the island with you.

One of the men has a gun. Everyone else is unarmed.

The man with the gun starts telling you guys what to do.

One of the people says, "No!"

The man with the gun shoots him

Everyone else agrees to do as he says, as long as it does not result in their immediate demise of course

The man with the gun (the most force) decides what rules will be enforced

In this case, he is deciding he will enforce his own rules. Making them 'laws'

The person with the force is called the 'authority.' This concept will be explored later

Because he is enforcing his rules, and turning them into laws... the man with the gun is also 'the government' on the island

In this case, which happens in small groups like this, the member/members of the govt also enforce their own laws



Scenario 2. The govt does not enforce its own laws

Imagine that you wake up on a desert island in the middle of the ocean.

There are ten people on the island with you.

One of the men has a gun. Everyone else is unarmed.

The people on this island are disorganized. Fights are breaking out.

One of the men says, "Hey. I am an engineer. I have some ideas on what to do! If everyone does what I suggest, we will prosper and get off this island!"

But no one will do as the engineer says

The man with the gun fires a shot into the air and says, "Listen up. You guys will do what the engineer says, or else!"

The engineer begins to make laws. Organizing the people on the island.

In this case, the engineer is the govt. But only because the man with the gun has agreed to enforce his laws.

However, <b>the engineer must always make sure that the laws work out for the guy with the gun!</b>

The govt is always the servant of whomever has the most force!

Event though the engineer is 'the govt' the guy with the gun decides who the govt is in this case

This is why Governments say where their 'authority' is derived from. What they mean is... who has the guns/force and is agreeing to enforce their rules, thereby making them 'laws'

The American govt theoretically derives its authority from the people

However, as the people have grown disorganized, sickly, and gunless, the American govt must now make laws favorable to those with force, such as banks and corporations

Religious governments say that their authority is derived from a God

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