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Unemployment up to 439,000 - Sandy Blamed

 
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Unemployment up to 439,000 - Sandy Blamed
[link to www.breakingnews.com]

Hurricane Sandy caused 60,000 job losses?
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11/15/2012 08:40 AM
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Funny the AP where given the first question at the press conference yesterday they are just working for obummer
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Here's a better link: [link to www.marketwatch.com]

And I stand corrected: 78,000 job losses blamed on Hurricane Sandy? I think not.
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11/15/2012 08:42 AM
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Getting a LOTTA mileage outta that storm!
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First "Post election" Jobs report...probably play make up for a while with all the BULLSHIT reports the weeks before the election.

Dow futures should be lookin good in a few...

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What about the 361,000 other Jobs? and how many Jobs were created?
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...and bush. He totally forgot bush.



And ATMs.
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Here's a better link: [link to www.marketwatch.com]

And I stand corrected: 78,000 job losses blamed on Hurricane Sandy? I think not.
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Um, I live at the Jersey Shore, and maybe you should learn more about out area before spouting off.

Do you have any idea how many restaurants, marinas, and various mom and pop small businesses were completely destroyed by Sandy?! Not to mention how many businesses were damaged and will take a while before they can reopen.

This is the most densely populated part of the country.
Yes, at least 78,000 people lost their jobs, easily.
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The joke around here is, every time O opens his mouth, stocks tank.

No this bullshit report. They really think we are all that stupid.

Many are... .
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11/15/2012 08:57 AM
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It's so sickening watching the spin job(s) of the Obama administration. We have been well and truly hijacked.

I've told all my friends and family to get out of the stock market NOW and put their money into physically-held precious metals.

Unfortunately, we are going to look back on these troubled times as "The Good Old Days".

This would be a great year to give Mountain House freeze dried #10 cans as Christmas gifts. You can't eat an iphone.
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Here's a better link: [link to www.marketwatch.com]

And I stand corrected: 78,000 job losses blamed on Hurricane Sandy? I think not.
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Um, I live at the Jersey Shore, and maybe you should learn more about out area before spouting off.

Do you have any idea how many restaurants, marinas, and various mom and pop small businesses were completely destroyed by Sandy?! Not to mention how many businesses were damaged and will take a while before they can reopen.

This is the most densely populated part of the country.
Yes, at least 78,000 people lost their jobs, easily.
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November is the busy season too...isn't it?....
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Here's a better link: [link to www.marketwatch.com]

And I stand corrected: 78,000 job losses blamed on Hurricane Sandy? I think not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7918044


Um, I live at the Jersey Shore, and maybe you should learn more about out area before spouting off.

Do you have any idea how many restaurants, marinas, and various mom and pop small businesses were completely destroyed by Sandy?! Not to mention how many businesses were damaged and will take a while before they can reopen.

This is the most densely populated part of the country.
Yes, at least 78,000 people lost their jobs, easily.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


November is the busy season too...isn't it?....
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Most places stay open year round, and it's not like the damage was solely done to the oceanfront...
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Getting a LOTTA mileage outta that storm!
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Many more to come...Sandy will soon be forgotten imo...just a footnote in a litany of disasters.
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Re: Unemployment up to 439,000 - Sandy Blamed
Here's a better link: [link to www.marketwatch.com]

And I stand corrected: 78,000 job losses blamed on Hurricane Sandy? I think not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7918044


Um, I live at the Jersey Shore, and maybe you should learn more about out area before spouting off.

Do you have any idea how many restaurants, marinas, and various mom and pop small businesses were completely destroyed by Sandy?! Not to mention how many businesses were damaged and will take a while before they can reopen.

This is the most densely populated part of the country.
Yes, at least 78,000 people lost their jobs, easily.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


Do you think that those lost jobs have had a chance to make it into the reports already? I don't know a lot about the Bureau of Labor but I'm pretty sure they have to collect that data from all the states. I'm not denying the impact of Sandy, I'm just wondering if the job losses caused by Sandy are really reflected in this report. If not, the NEXT report may be even more stunning than this one.
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What about the 361,000 other Jobs? and how many Jobs were created?
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Don't forget how many Obama saved...lol
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Re: Unemployment up to 439,000 - Sandy Blamed
Here's a better link: [link to www.marketwatch.com]

And I stand corrected: 78,000 job losses blamed on Hurricane Sandy? I think not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7918044


Um, I live at the Jersey Shore, and maybe you should learn more about out area before spouting off.

Do you have any idea how many restaurants, marinas, and various mom and pop small businesses were completely destroyed by Sandy?! Not to mention how many businesses were damaged and will take a while before they can reopen.

This is the most densely populated part of the country.
Yes, at least 78,000 people lost their jobs, easily.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


Do you think that those lost jobs have had a chance to make it into the reports already? I don't know a lot about the Bureau of Labor but I'm pretty sure they have to collect that data from all the states. I'm not denying the impact of Sandy, I'm just wondering if the job losses caused by Sandy are really reflected in this report. If not, the NEXT report may be even more stunning than this one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27352798


That I do not know, but I would guess it's an estimate. But once the dust settles and the losses become clearer, I do expect the next report to be "stunning." It is really, really bad here - apparently worse than many realize.
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Re: Unemployment up to 439,000 - Sandy Blamed
From the Bureau of Labor Statistics FAQ page:

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<<< How can unusually severe weather affect employment and hours estimates?

In the establishment survey, the reference period is the pay period that
includes the 12th of the month. Unusually severe weather is more likely
to have an impact on average weekly hours than on employment. Average
weekly hours are estimated for paid time during the pay period, including
pay for holidays, sick leave, or other time off. The impact of severe
weather on hours estimates typically, but not always, results in a
reduction in average weekly hours. For example, some employees may be off
work for part of the pay period and not receive pay for the time missed,
while some workers, such as those dealing with cleanup or repair, may
work extra hours.

In order for severe weather conditions to reduce the estimate of payroll
employment, employees have to be off work without pay for the entire pay
period. About half of all employees in the payroll survey sample have a
2-week, semi-monthly, or monthly pay period. Employees who receive pay for
any part of the pay period, even 1 hour, are counted in the payroll employment
figures. It is not possible to quantify the effect of extreme weather on
estimates of over-the-month change in employment.

In the household survey, the reference period is generally the calendar
week that includes the 12th of the month. Persons who miss the entire
week’s work for weather-related events are counted as employed whether or
not they are paid for the time off. The household survey collects data on
the number of persons who usually work full time but had reduced hours,
or had a job but were not at work due to bad weather. Current and
historical data are available on the household survey’s most requested
statistics page at [link to data.bls.gov] >>>
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From the Bureau of Labor Statistics FAQ page:

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<<< How can unusually severe weather affect employment and hours estimates?

In the establishment survey, the reference period is the pay period that
includes the 12th of the month. Unusually severe weather is more likely
to have an impact on average weekly hours than on employment. Average
weekly hours are estimated for paid time during the pay period, including
pay for holidays, sick leave, or other time off. The impact of severe
weather on hours estimates typically, but not always, results in a
reduction in average weekly hours. For example, some employees may be off
work for part of the pay period and not receive pay for the time missed,
while some workers, such as those dealing with cleanup or repair, may
work extra hours.

In order for severe weather conditions to reduce the estimate of payroll
employment, employees have to be off work without pay for the entire pay
period. About half of all employees in the payroll survey sample have a
2-week, semi-monthly, or monthly pay period. Employees who receive pay for
any part of the pay period, even 1 hour, are counted in the payroll employment
figures. It is not possible to quantify the effect of extreme weather on
estimates of over-the-month change in employment.

In the household survey, the reference period is generally the calendar
week that includes the 12th of the month. Persons who miss the entire
week’s work for weather-related events are counted as employed whether or
not they are paid for the time off. The household survey collects data on
the number of persons who usually work full time but had reduced hours,
or had a job but were not at work due to bad weather. Current and
historical data are available on the household survey’s most requested
statistics page at [link to data.bls.gov] >>>
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Well, that makes sense, as most of the newly unemployed are definitely missing more than one pay period of work, and therefore would be counted as officially unemployed.
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And when the economy crashes, they will blame the massive increase in unemployment on the...economic crash.

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Getting a LOTTA mileage outta that storm!
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Many more to come...Sandy will soon be forgotten imo...just a footnote in a litany of disasters.
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yep, and he will blame the storms for all of his problems....
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Here's a better link: [link to www.marketwatch.com]

And I stand corrected: 78,000 job losses blamed on Hurricane Sandy? I think not.
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Um, I live at the Jersey Shore, and maybe you should learn more about out area before spouting off.

Do you have any idea how many restaurants, marinas, and various mom and pop small businesses were completely destroyed by Sandy?! Not to mention how many businesses were damaged and will take a while before they can reopen.

This is the most densely populated part of the country.
Yes, at least 78,000 people lost their jobs, easily.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


November is the busy season too...isn't it?....
 Quoting: SHR


Most places stay open year round, and it's not like the damage was solely done to the oceanfront...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


You can also factor in the thousands of "clean up" and aftermath jobs in the trades that have been created...I've been through major hurricanes...there is always a boom of that sort of work after one...

I seriously doubt that there has been enough time to factor in much of either of those numbers, the negatives and positives from the storm.

The BLS has been full of shit for months, if not longer, but especially full of it lately.

Besides...hasn't the Obama laser focused team's fast and agressive most awesomest response pretty much handled all the downsides yet?...That's what I heard anyway.
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And when the economy crashes, they will blame the massive increase in unemployment on the...economic crash.

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I guarantee that the Obama administration will blame the "failed policies of the Bush administration".....

He will say that he did all he could but that the GOP policies that were in effect for 8 years were so horrible that in spite of everything he did to rectify the situation.....in the end it was just to much to overcome


Mark my words
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Here's a better link: [link to www.marketwatch.com]

And I stand corrected: 78,000 job losses blamed on Hurricane Sandy? I think not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7918044


Um, I live at the Jersey Shore, and maybe you should learn more about out area before spouting off.

Do you have any idea how many restaurants, marinas, and various mom and pop small businesses were completely destroyed by Sandy?! Not to mention how many businesses were damaged and will take a while before they can reopen.

This is the most densely populated part of the country.
Yes, at least 78,000 people lost their jobs, easily.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


Do you think that those lost jobs have had a chance to make it into the reports already? I don't know a lot about the Bureau of Labor but I'm pretty sure they have to collect that data from all the states. I'm not denying the impact of Sandy, I'm just wondering if the job losses caused by Sandy are really reflected in this report. If not, the NEXT report may be even more stunning than this one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27352798


That I do not know, but I would guess it's an estimate. But once the dust settles and the losses become clearer, I do expect the next report to be "stunning." It is really, really bad here - apparently worse than many realize.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732


Found this on Fox:

<<< Superstorm Sandy drove the number of people seeking unemployment benefits up to a seasonally adjusted 439,000 last week, the highest level in 18 months.

The Labor Department said Thursday that weekly applications increased by 78,000 mostly because a large number of applications were filed in states damaged by the storm. People can claim unemployment benefits if their workplaces close and they don't get paid.

The storm has affected the claims data for the past two weeks and may distort reports for another two weeks, the department has said.

The four-week average of applications, a less volatile number, increased to 383,750.>>>

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]
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[link to www.breakingnews.com]

Hurricane Sandy caused 60,000 job losses?
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No problem.

Just hand out more food stamps.

Problem solved.
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Hurricane Sandy caused 60,000 job losses?
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everybody gave this guy grief a month ago....

just sayin

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Hurricane Sandy caused 60,000 job losses?
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Hurricane Barack more like.
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There's a hurricane coming, you're fired!
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These people say Obama is Lying.


But you will never convince liberals of that.

Obama is incapable of lying

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yeah right...try mr. o being elected..
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This is a disturbing time of year for this type of number, usually this time of year we are getting a lot of temporary employment in retail and shipping business' for Christmas...
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Jobless Claims Up 78,000 Week After Election; PA, OH Worst Hit
[link to www.breitbart.com]

Ohio and Penn State were hit the worst so how can Sandy be blamed?

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