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SIAP... Harvard paper regarding Conspiracy groups

 
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[link to ssrn.com]

Im not sure if i posted the correct link, if not I will edit or repost it.

Few quotes:

"the best response consists in cognitive infiltration of extremist groups"

"Government agents (and their allies) might enter chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine percolating conspiracy theories by raising doubts about their factual premises, causal logic or implications for political action."
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USE NGO's to infiltrate conspiracy theorists:

"government can supply these independent experts (NGOs) with information and perhaps prod them into action from behind the scenes,"

But don't get caught

"too close a connection will be self-defeating if it is exposed."
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Cass R. Sunstein
Harvard Law School

Adrian Vermeule
Harvard Law School

January 15, 2008

Harvard Public Law Working Paper No. 08-03
U of Chicago, Public Law Working Paper No. 199
U of Chicago Law & Economics, Olin Working Paper No. 387


Abstract:
Many millions of people hold conspiracy theories; they believe that powerful people have worked together in order to withhold the truth about some important practice or some terrible event. A recent example is the belief, widespread in some parts of the world, that the attacks of 9/11 were carried out not by Al Qaeda, but by Israel or the United States. Those who subscribe to conspiracy theories may create serious risks, including risks of violence, and the existence of such theories raises significant challenges for policy and law. The first challenge is to understand the mechanisms by which conspiracy theories prosper; the second challenge is to understand how such theories might be undermined. Such theories typically spread as a result of identifiable cognitive blunders, operating in conjunction with informational and reputational influences. A distinctive feature of conspiracy theories is their self-sealing quality. Conspiracy theorists are not likely to be persuaded by an attempt to dispel their theories; they may even characterize that very attempt as further proof of the conspiracy. Because those who hold conspiracy theories typically suffer from a crippled epistemology, in accordance with which it is rational to hold such theories, the best response consists in cognitive infiltration of extremist groups. Various policy dilemmas, such as the question whether it is better for government to rebut conspiracy theories or to ignore them, are explored in this light.

Number of Pages in PDF File: 30

Keywords: conspiracy theories, social networks, informational cascades, group polarization

working papers series
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SIAP (sorry if already posted) because I DO see this is a paper from 2008
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Lenin, Hilter, Stalin, Mao, etc would be so proud...
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I would love to see how they infiltrate the Holy Spirit. Good luck with that.
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"We bracket the most difficult
questions here and suggest more intuitively that a conspiracy theory can generally be
counted as such if it is an effort to explain some event or practice by reference to the
machinations of powerful people, who have also managed to conceal their role. This
account seems to capture the essence of the most prominent and influential conspiracy
theories."
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I would love to see how they infiltrate the Holy Spirit. Good luck with that.
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"(3) Government
might itself engage in counterspeech, marshaling arguments to discredit conspiracy
theories. (4) Government might formally hire credible private parties to engage in
counterspeech. (5) Government might engage in informal communication with such
parties, encouraging them to help."
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It's a conspiracy to convince the conspiracy theorists that there are no conspiracies.
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Why not just simplify things and come right out and say that the masses have been LIED to on various things.....

So much easier.
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"We bracket the most difficult
questions here and suggest more intuitively that a conspiracy theory can generally be
counted as such if it is an effort to explain some event or practice by reference to the
machinations of powerful people, who have also managed to conceal their role. This
account seems to capture the essence of the most prominent and influential conspiracy
theories."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6235765


Well, they got that right.

Anything outside of Official Dogma is proclaimed Anathema.

The bastards' lies are getting so blatant that even the controlled MSM can't cover for them.

Wish Congress would get some balls.

Last Edited by MuzzleBreak on 11/15/2012 09:39 AM
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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shill
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Why not just simplify things and come right out and say that the masses have been LIED to on various things.....

So much easier.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19559803


They will never do that because of accountability. The name of the game is deny, deny, deny.
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Cass R. Sunstein, the second most dangerous man in America.

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It's a conspiracy to convince the conspiracy theorists that there are no conspiracies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27582562


Or it could be a conspiracy to convince conspiracy theorists that there's a conspiracy to convince the conspiracy theorists that there are no conspiracies
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"We bracket the most difficult
questions here and suggest more intuitively that a conspiracy theory can generally be
counted as such if it is an effort to explain some event or practice by reference to the
machinations of powerful people, who have also managed to conceal their role. This
account seems to capture the essence of the most prominent and influential conspiracy
theories."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6235765


Well, they got that right.

Anything outside of Official Dogma is proclaimed Anathema.

The bastards' lies are getting so blatant that even the controlled MSM can't cover for them.

Wish Congress would get some balls.
 Quoting: MuzzleBreak


S'truth.

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Geese, they need Harvard grads to state the logical?
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shill
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?
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Cass R. Sunstein, the second most dangerous man in America.

[link to www.discoverthenetworks.org]
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Partially why I thought it necessary to post.

Nice catch, Im not trying to make anyone's mind up on this, just putting it out.
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Wonder if they have anything to do with a behavioural sciences institute in England......
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Run little worm, run!

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Cass R. Sunstein, the second most dangerous man in America.

[link to www.discoverthenetworks.org]
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Partially why I thought it necessary to post.

Nice catch, Im not trying to make anyone's mind up on this, just putting it out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6235765


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shill
 Quoting: Generation Doom


?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6235765


Agents that infiltrate conspiracy groups = shills.
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shill
 Quoting: Generation Doom


?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6235765


Agents that infiltrate conspiracy groups = shills.
 Quoting: Generation Doom


Ah.

I was thinking you were calling someone on the thread a shill..

(Forgive me, I just got my first cup of coffee)
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Geese, they need Harvard grads to state the logical?
 Quoting: 2012Portal


lol no doubt

we need a Harvard grad over here ASAP to do a study on Harvard grad groups
who do studies on conspiracy groups LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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"Government agents (and their allies) might enter chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine percolating conspiracy theories by raising doubts about their factual premises, causal logic or implications for political action."
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welcome to GLP where fear mongering comes standard hf


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Tasty lies are left where the starved for Truth can find them and gobble them up.

The vast majority of the population on the Internet connect to find support for or to promote their cherished delusions.
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I especially like the part about "crippled epistemology".
What a bunch of crap coming from someone from Harvard!
What kind of horse shit is he trying to fling? The bought out, or wanting to be bought out, sob!
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There is no such thing as a moral politician or government, thus all they do is conspiratorial to varying degrees. It is fact for some, ignorance for most.

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