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Americans Have No Clue!

 
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This has been in the making for 40 years, the economy is not collapsing due to one mans policies, the manufacturing base was not lost in America due to one president. American workers did not become the most spoiled, well paid population in the world overnight, The derivitives market did not reach 650 trillion in a few years, Debt did not overpower GDP due to a presidents decisions. Americans expect to be taken care of by their government, expect sick days, vacation, insurance, holidays off, unemployment insurance, coffee breaks. We are entitled and dillusional. We have no idea how to stop expecting what we have always known and it will be our demise. Hostess is a good expmple today... The unions have destroyed america and we have made this bed we now are being forced to lay in. History is clear, and the refusal of americans to learn history is what will insure our repeating it.

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Well said & 100% correct!
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The world is Broke, there is no money it is all debt. Leaving beyond our means through easy credit, thinking of history as linear, and that we cannot fail, cannot collapse is dillusional and ignorant. We chose the easy way and now it is biting us in the ass. It may not be fair, it may all be contrived and planned. I just wish people would stop blaming it one one person or party. Americans have to take responsibility for their choices. If you always vote for the guy who promises you the easy road and free shit this is where you end up! Perfect example is Reagan. Carter warned america in his malay speach in 1979 that this is where we were headed if we did not sacrifice, and here we are.
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This has been in the making for 40 years, the economy is not collapsing due to one mans policies, the manufacturing base was not lost in America due to one president. American workers did not become the most spoiled, well paid population in the world overnight, The derivitives market did not reach 650 trillion in a few years, Debt did not overpower GDP due to a presidents decisions. Americans expect to be taken care of by their government, expect sick days, vacation, insurance, holidays off, unemployment insurance, coffee breaks. We are entitled and dillusional. We have no idea how to stop expecting what we have always known and it will be our demise. Hostess is a good expmple today... The unions have destroyed america and we have made this bed we now are being forced to lay in. History is clear, and the refusal of americans to learn history is what will insure our repeating it.
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the one sent to expose this is the same every one rejects
and as such the leaders won ,you all lose because nobody would listen
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The generation that fought WWII understood sacrifice,,, offer up a rationing program today and people would fucking freak. We do not want to have to do without, to give up luxury to save ourselves blinded by greed and ease we are gonna run this train into a wall or off the Cliff, Sad part is we deserve it.
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It was also a very clever and devious idea to get the rest of us to pass around useless pieces of paper while they continued to accumulate real physical assets and the means of production. It goes back farther than 4 decades.
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Yup it's all gonna come crashing down within the next 2 months. Stock up on supplies now...we've been saying this for years but, now it is imperative. Make your final moves..
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It was also a very clever and devious idea to get the rest of us to pass around useless pieces of paper while they continued to accumulate real physical assets and the means of production. It goes back farther than 4 decades.
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This , good to see some poeple still have scope ... and mouthwash ....
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in conclusion, Earth is Hell, a working place to evolution.
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It was also a very clever and devious idea to get the rest of us to pass around useless pieces of paper while they continued to accumulate real physical assets and the means of production. It goes back farther than 4 decades.
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This , good to see some poeple still have scope ... and mouthwash ....
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It certainly does go back further, Since 1860 at least but I am aware of how short our memory is and how painfully ignorant americans are to actual history. Baby steps. We have been dumbed down on purpose for you cannot overthrow a critically thinking, self reliant population. They have made sure that the consumer oriented american would never stand up to tyranny, or a police state. As long as walmart opens and the cable is working they wont be bothered at all.
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not 100 % correct

this country did not become a great country by people leaching off the system. this country became a great country through backbreaking hard work of our ancestors.
then we were overwhelmed by less than desirable leaches who suck the life out of those who are hard working.
the theives came at us from both ends, the rich manipulating legislation to corner the markets on all resources, and the poor being used as a voting tool to take down the true american people. those hardworking people who benefited from their ancestors. 1956 or there about is a book written "the communist manifesto" read it, everything listed in that book has been accomplished today.
land grabs through the environmental deception agencies, eminent domain, public lands (that soon sell off pennies on the dollar to their friends). they are public lands, so how is it the public has no say?
crime syndicate, and as bugsy seagal said; i have joined the wrong criminals. i should have went into politics.
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not 100 % correct

this country did not become a great country by people leaching off the system. this country became a great country through backbreaking hard work of our ancestors.
then we were overwhelmed by less than desirable leaches who suck the life out of those who are hard working.
the theives came at us from both ends, the rich manipulating legislation to corner the markets on all resources, and the poor being used as a voting tool to take down the true american people. those hardworking people who benefited from their ancestors. 1956 or there about is a book written "the communist manifesto" read it, everything listed in that book has been accomplished today.
land grabs through the environmental deception agencies, eminent domain, public lands (that soon sell off pennies on the dollar to their friends). they are public lands, so how is it the public has no say?
crime syndicate, and as bugsy seagal said; i have joined the wrong criminals. i should have went into politics.
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not 100 % correct

this country did not become a great country by people leaching off the system. this country became a great country through backbreaking hard work of our ancestors.
then we were overwhelmed by less than desirable leaches who suck the life out of those who are hard working.
the theives came at us from both ends, the rich manipulating legislation to corner the markets on all resources, and the poor being used as a voting tool to take down the true american people. those hardworking people who benefited from their ancestors. 1956 or there about is a book written "the communist manifesto" read it, everything listed in that book has been accomplished today.
land grabs through the environmental deception agencies, eminent domain, public lands (that soon sell off pennies on the dollar to their friends). they are public lands, so how is it the public has no say?
crime syndicate, and as bugsy seagal said; i have joined the wrong criminals. i should have went into politics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27801553


I have read it, you are correct it has happened. Communism is a theory though, Human nature is what has put us here, Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The Rothschilds care not what form of governmnet runs the world, they care who controls the MONEY
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Easy credit, living beyond our means, wanting to keep up with the jones', Having the cool shit you see on t.v... this is the attitude of americans. We have yet to wake up cause the cable is still on, you cannot see the bread lines, the media is owned, Propaganda is the rule of the day. Brainwashed, dumbed down, I guess we never had a chance. When you consider haw much t.v. the average american watches a day, it is no wonder.
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Even if you could get back the 56,000 factories closed since 2001, I doubt you could find enough people to work in them. The gen xers, and millineum gen are opposed to hard work or manual labor. Getting sweaty is not their idea of a good job. Degrees in Liberal arts and Buisness, we were told to go to college and get a good job so that we did not have to work as hard as our parents and grandparents did. That is why we have no farmers, no innovation. The last thing america invented was Spanks. Our number one export is Trash, number two is the dollar. We have off-shored our manufacturing base, we have allowed the idustrial centers to collapse and rust, the UAW and Teamsters insured that big buisness would leave this country as it is impossible to pay the labor here. We score at the bottom of the industrial world in Math, Science, and history. We have 4.8% of the world population and 25% of the world prisoners... free labor! Wake up people this is the end of Empire.
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clappa
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Thanks brother!hf
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The U.S. does not make enough actual good for foriegners with reserves to buy. Consumers are too indebted to borrow, with debt at 136% of income. Banks are too insolvent to lend, as they are 650 trillion invested in credit default swaps. Payroll employmnet is less than it was in 2001 after a decade of population growth. The U.s. economy would have to add 180,000 jobs a month to keep up with people entering the workforce be it through college graduates or 18 year olds entering the work force. As of 2/9/2012 70% of the federal budget goes to individual assistance programs. The U.S has more per capita debt than Greece, portugal, Ireland or spain. German banks are leveraged 32 to 1 Lehman was only 30 to 1. A one percent increase in the average interest rate would add $88 billion to the treasury's interest payment this year alone. This is not conspiracy it is math!
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But I guess that was the point of dumbing us down... so we wouldnt see. The Reese committe unconvered the control of the education system in the U.S. in 1954, no one listened. Carter warned us, noone listened.. I guess it is too depressing to face the truth.
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Oh Well.... May the fittest survive!
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650 trillion invested in credit default swaps,it looks like a biblicaly scary number,but what exactly does that mean.
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One man's policies?
...I guess we don't know the man.

Survival of the fittest?
Yea, these jew bankers are real fit.
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650 trillion invested in credit default swaps,it looks like a biblicaly scary number,but what exactly does that mean.
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Got proof of this #?
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I was about to say, this has been in the making for far longer. Today's generation is the "gimme" children because now, people have become dependent on the government to save them. Things don't work like an Amish community where everyone does their work and helps give back to the community, but rather, our government basically destroys everything it touches.

Here is an excerpt from Ron Paul's speech yesterday...

“What are the greatest dangers that the American people face today and impede the goal of a free society? There are five.
1. The continuous attack on our civil liberties which threatens the rule of law and our ability to resist the onrush of tyranny.
2. Violent anti-Americanism that has engulfed the world. Because the phenomenon of “blow-back” is not understood or denied, our foreign policy is destined to keep us involved in many wars that we have no business being in. National bankruptcy and a greater threat to our national security will result.
3. The ease in which we go to war, without a declaration by Congress, but accepting international authority from the UN or NATO even for preemptive wars, otherwise known as aggression.
4. A financial political crisis as a consequence of excessive debt, unfunded liabilities, spending, bailouts, and gross discrepancy in wealth distribution going from the middle class to the rich. The danger of central economic planning, by the Federal Reserve must be understood.
5. World government taking over local and US sovereignty by getting involved in the issues of war, welfare, trade, banking, a world currency, taxes, property ownership, and private ownership of guns."

RP likes to also finish that with;
"The ultimate solution is not in the hands of the government.”
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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ohyeah

Correct.
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650 trillion invested in credit default swaps,it looks like a biblicaly scary number,but what exactly does that mean.
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It means basically that they have cooked the books, the loans taken out whether it be houses, student loans, cars, ect are not being paid back,, ever. the banks bundled all the sub prime loans into derivatives and sold them as AAA loans... It was a lie and the whole world bought it. the banks only have ten percent of what they claim to have and even that is digital money. 90% of all deposits in U.S are held by 5 banks. Goldman sachs is the most heavily invested in derivitives, when they go they all go
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650 trillion invested in credit default swaps,it looks like a biblicaly scary number,but what exactly does that mean.
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It means basically that they have cooked the books, the loans taken out whether it be houses, student loans, cars, ect are not being paid back,, ever. the banks bundled all the sub prime loans into derivatives and sold them as AAA loans... It was a lie and the whole world bought it. the banks only have ten percent of what they claim to have and even that is digital money. 90% of all deposits in U.S are held by 5 banks. Goldman sachs is the most heavily invested in derivitives, when they go they all go
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Very well said. Someone has def payed attention and done their research.

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Thank you sir... I have been trying to get my head around it all for years. No easy task
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The end of America,, We had a pretty good run I guess. Lucky enough to live in some really good times here.
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King Barry did not start it, he just accelerated it. It was started in 1913, but Oblabla put it on the fast track. His policies have led to the closing of many American businesses that have survived the progressive attack for decades. Barry has supported the unions and destroyed American business whenever it has become an issue. His jobs czar exported jobs to communist China, and imported enough cheap crap to sink GE, but Oblame-a keeps funneling to them. As long as Barry keeps throwing money at them, they will live on to destroy our economy for a while longer.
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But as the crisis mood congeals people will come to the jarring realization that they have grown helplessly dependent on a teetering edifice of anonymous transactions and paper garuntees. Many americans wont know where their savings are, who their employer is , what their pension is, or how their government works. The era will have left the financial world arbitraged and tentacled; Debtors wont know who owns their mortgages, and shareholders who runs their equities and vise versa. Strauss & Howe 1997
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Nafta, the WTO, none of that had anything to do with Obama, HE IS A PUPPET! It is retarded to blame the president for the economy,,, any of them
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