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who is the jewish messiah?

 
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who is the jewish messiah?
obviously jesus is not the jewish messiah.

so who is?
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who is the jewish messiah?
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You will have to wait like the rest of us!...........sheep
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
obviously jesus is not the jewish messiah.

so who is?
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every religion having their own "messiah"

?sounds messy!
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
obviously jesus is not the jewish messiah.

so who is?
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every religion having their own "messiah"

?sounds messy!
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tell me about it
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
moses
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No, Moses was not their messiah. To them, the messiah hasn't come yet.
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
He himself does not know
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
He himself does not know
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why does it have to be a he?

the essenes, a sect of judaism, believed in the coming of a spiritual messiah... what if this is the holy spirit?

RUACH ha KODESH

it could be a her...

just saying.
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For Jews will be their Messiah. 99 % of the people will accept him, also, and will raise again the Temple for him. Very soon.
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For Jews will be their Messiah. 99 % of the people will accept him, also, and will raise again the Temple for him. Very soon.
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lies
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For Jews will be their Messiah. 99 % of the people will accept him, also, and will raise again the Temple for him. Very soon.
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The Antichrist.
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
obviously jesus is not the jewish messiah.

so who is?
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every religion having their own "messiah"

?sounds messy!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27817168


tell me about it
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Can you say strong delusion?
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
He himself does not know
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why does it have to be a he?

the essenes, a sect of judaism, believed in the coming of a spiritual messiah... what if this is the holy spirit?

RUACH ha KODESH

it could be a her...

just saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


I am JewISH meSSiaH 11Ish11Jcorrected

It is the one whos name is written backwards in Jews

and those who say the real Messiah would never claim...obviously don't know their Messiah

11Messsiah

11IamSS11Messiaah

11SkadosH

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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
obviously jesus is not the jewish messiah.

so who is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


every religion having their own "messiah"

?sounds messy!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27817168


tell me about it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


Can you say strong delusion?
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prophets gotta be careful what they are smoking.
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
He himself does not know
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3551265


why does it have to be a he?

the essenes, a sect of judaism, believed in the coming of a spiritual messiah... what if this is the holy spirit?

RUACH ha KODESH

it could be a her...

just saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


I am

and those who say the real Messiah would never claim...obviously don't know their Messiah

:11Messsiah:

:11MessiaHHH::11IamSS:

:11SkadosH:
 Quoting: TT YeSHua TT


you are an idiot
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
He himself does not know
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3551265


why does it have to be a he?

the essenes, a sect of judaism, believed in the coming of a spiritual messiah... what if this is the holy spirit?

RUACH ha KODESH

it could be a her...

just saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


I am

and those who say the real Messiah would never claim...obviously don't know their Messiah

:11Messsiah:

:11Messiiah::11IamSS:

:11SkadosH:
 Quoting: TT YeSHua TT

You are an imbecile.Your parents were correct when they had you taken to a nut house.The doctors were wrong when they let you out.Now ADMIT that your parents had you carted off to a nut house.You are a fool.
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
I think the concept of messiah was made up to manipulate mankind. I no longer look, nor wait, for one. There simply isn't a man coming to save you. God lives within you, not in another human being for you.
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
I think the concept of messiah was made up to manipulate mankind. I no longer look, nor wait, for one. There simply isn't a man coming to save you. God lives within you, not in another human being for you.
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amen
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
He himself does not know
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3551265


why does it have to be a he?

the essenes, a sect of judaism, believed in the coming of a spiritual messiah... what if this is the holy spirit?

RUACH ha KODESH

it could be a her...

just saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431



 Quoting: TT YeSHua TT

You are an imbecile.Your parents were correct when they had you taken to a nut house.The doctors were wrong when they let you out.Now ADMIT that your parents had you carted off to a nut house.You are a fool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766


I must be a fool 2 do what I do

but haven't I always....??
:11Thha foolz::11FoolZZ:


Or maybe your the fools rejecting once again....history repeating itself

My bets on you

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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
For Jews will be their Messiah. 99 % of the people will accept him, also, and will raise again the Temple for him. Very soon.
 Quoting: Elyahu


lies
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OP, I respect your views, but I know what I'm talking. Just wait and see, my best wishes for you.
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
For Jews will be their Messiah. 99 % of the people will accept him, also, and will raise again the Temple for him. Very soon.
 Quoting: Elyahu


lies
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OP, I respect your views, but I know what I'm talking. Just wait and see, my best wishes for you.
 Quoting: Elyahu


A violent, flesh-eating form of Judaism based on bloody animal sacrifice became the dominant religion in Israel. The nonviolent, vegetarian Essenes were persecuted by the animal sacrifice cult. Both forms of Judaism expected a Messiah: the sacrificial cult expected the Messiah to be a warrior king; the Essene Nazarenes expected a Messiah of Peace, a spiritual King. And so it was that the Messiah of Peace, the spiritual King of Israel, came to earth through the Essenes; for it was the Essene scriptures and prophecies that proved true. And so it was that the Essene Nazarene Jews, practitioners of the authentic Judaism established by God through Enoch and Moses, BECAME THE VERY FIRST CHRISTIANS!"
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i am

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i am

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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
obviously jesus is not the jewish messiah.

so who is?
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They've had two already (Sabbatai Zevi and Jacob Frank, according to Rabbi Chaim Potok, author of Wanderings... History of the Jews.

Both were sexually deviant cultists.

According to Wikipedia, there've been dozens of Jewish claimants (included is Jesus of Nazareth):

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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"A violent, flesh-eating form of Judaism based on bloody animal sacrifice became the dominant religion in Israel. The nonviolent, vegetarian Essenes were persecuted by the animal sacrifice cult. Both forms of Judaism expected a Messiah: the sacrificial cult expected the Messiah to be a warrior king; the Essene Nazarenes expected a Messiah of Peace, a spiritual King. And so it was that the Messiah of Peace, the spiritual King of Israel, came to earth through the Essenes; for it was the Essene scriptures and prophecies that proved true. And so it was that the Essene Nazarene Jews, practitioners of the authentic Judaism established by God through Enoch and Moses, BECAME THE VERY FIRST CHRISTIANS!"

I agree with this. The blood-sacrificial forms of Judaism are based in Paganism, by which early Jews were very strongly influenced. Babylonian Jews were those who were carried away into captivity and then chose to stay voluntarily. The Talmud is basically Babylonian Judaism.

The Essenes were also anti-slavery.
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He himself does not know
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3551265


why does it have to be a he?

the essenes, a sect of judaism, believed in the coming of a spiritual messiah... what if this is the holy spirit?

RUACH ha KODESH

it could be a her...

just saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


then why is the Congregation called the Bride of the Lamb?.Would you deniegh him his Bride?....................sheep
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
I think the concept of messiah was made up to manipulate mankind. I no longer look, nor wait, for one. There simply isn't a man coming to save you. God lives within you, not in another human being for you.
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He won't be a man, the second time. "Every eye shall see him." So, he's going to be something much bigger than a mere mortal.
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
obviously jesus is not the jewish messiah.

so who is?
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In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I am [ego eimi] you will perish in your sins” (lit. trans.).
[link to christiandefense.org]
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Re: who is the jewish messiah?
"A violent, flesh-eating form of Judaism based on bloody animal sacrifice became the dominant religion in Israel. The nonviolent, vegetarian Essenes were persecuted by the animal sacrifice cult. Both forms of Judaism expected a Messiah: the sacrificial cult expected the Messiah to be a warrior king; the Essene Nazarenes expected a Messiah of Peace, a spiritual King. And so it was that the Messiah of Peace, the spiritual King of Israel, came to earth through the Essenes; for it was the Essene scriptures and prophecies that proved true. And so it was that the Essene Nazarene Jews, practitioners of the authentic Judaism established by God through Enoch and Moses, BECAME THE VERY FIRST CHRISTIANS!"

I agree with this. The blood-sacrificial forms of Judaism are based in Paganism, by which early Jews were very strongly influenced. Babylonian Jews were those who were carried away into captivity and then chose to stay voluntarily. The Talmud is basically Babylonian Judaism.

The Essenes were also anti-slavery.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


Blood sacrificing Judaism is really a back-slide back into the Paganism which Abraham rejected when he substituted a lamb for the Human sacrifice of his own son. Unfortunately, formal Judaism with all of its priesthood, strict rituals, symbolism, etc. -- became too easily obsessed with the ~substitute, because they couldn't completely extricate themselves from Pagan practices.

The lamb substitute was supposed to have been just a wake-up call to the people, symbolic of the future incarnate Christ whose blood was shed on Calvary.

But instead, the Jewish priests encouraged fire altars to be raised everywhere and used for burnt offerings. Then later, the priests turned around and ~outlawed personal altars, making it required for all offerings to be handled by the temple priests themselves.

Solomon, who built the most lavish Jewish temple, was no paragon of morality.
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"A violent, flesh-eating form of Judaism based on bloody animal sacrifice became the dominant religion in Israel. The nonviolent, vegetarian Essenes were persecuted by the animal sacrifice cult. Both forms of Judaism expected a Messiah: the sacrificial cult expected the Messiah to be a warrior king; the Essene Nazarenes expected a Messiah of Peace, a spiritual King. And so it was that the Messiah of Peace, the spiritual King of Israel, came to earth through the Essenes; for it was the Essene scriptures and prophecies that proved true. And so it was that the Essene Nazarene Jews, practitioners of the authentic Judaism established by God through Enoch and Moses, BECAME THE VERY FIRST CHRISTIANS!"

I agree with this. The blood-sacrificial forms of Judaism are based in Paganism, by which early Jews were very strongly influenced. Babylonian Jews were those who were carried away into captivity and then chose to stay voluntarily. The Talmud is basically Babylonian Judaism.

The Essenes were also anti-slavery.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


Blood sacrificing Judaism is really a back-slide back into the Paganism which Abraham rejected when he substituted a lamb for the Human sacrifice of his own son. Unfortunately, formal Judaism with all of its priesthood, strict rituals, symbolism, etc. -- became too easily obsessed with the ~substitute, because they couldn't completely extricate themselves from Pagan practices.

The lamb substitute was supposed to have been just a wake-up call to the people, symbolic of the future incarnate Christ whose blood was shed on Calvary.

But instead, the Jewish priests encouraged fire altars to be raised everywhere and used for burnt offerings. Then later, the priests turned around and ~outlawed personal altars, making it required for all offerings to be handled by the temple priests themselves.

Solomon, who built the most lavish Jewish temple, was no paragon of morality.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


At least one of the more pious Jewish prophets (I forget which, but maybe Elijah), raised all kinds of heck over the fact that the fire altars were being used to make burnt offerings to Baal, Molech, and other Pagan gods. It seems that most Jewish people throughout history, had great difficulty separating themselves from Paganism.

Isaiah also railed against their Pagan practices, and was hunted down and eventually killed while hiding from the mob in a hollow tree.

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