Who is the FATHER jesus speaks of.

merciful?

just?

righteous?

virtues...


but who is "he"

It was his DAD..you know..the bloke who gave mary a bit and spawned him.

right but joseph was jesus's dad, he gave birth to him, but jesus spoke of a father in heaven..

or was he creating an illusion that did not yet come true but now has revealed itself to be the ultimate truth?

JJEEEsssUUZZZ

9 Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

10Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

11Give us this day our daily bread.

12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

"I and my father are one"

When I asked if I might understand this,he said to me ,"The One is a soveriegn that has nothing over it.It is God and Father of all,the Invisable One that is over all,that is imperishable,that is pure light no eye can see."It is the invisable Spirit.One should not think of it as a god,or like a god.For it is greater than a god,because has nothing over it and no lord above it.It does not exist within anything that is inferior to it,since everything exists only within it It is eternal,since it does not need anything.For it is absolutely complete:it has never lacked anything in order to be complete.Rather,it has always been absolutely complete in light.It is illimitable,since there is nothing before it to limit it.It is unfathomable,since there is nothing before it to fathom it.It is immeasureable,since there is nothing before it to measure it.It is unobservable,since nothing has observed it.It is eternal,,and exists eternaly.It is unutterable,since nothing could comprehend it to utter it.It is unnamable,since there is nothing before it to give it a name. "It is immeasureable light,pure,holy,bright.It is unutterable,and is perfect in its imperishability.Not that it is part of perfection,or blessedness,or divinity:it is much greater. It is neither corporeal nor incorporeal.It is neither large or small.It is impossible to say,How much is it? or what kind is it? for no one can understand it.It is not one among many things that are in existance:it is much greater.Not that is actualy greater.Rather,as it is in itself,it is not a part of the worlds or of time,for whatever is part of a world was once produced by something else.Time was not allotted to it,since recieves nothing from anyone.That would be a loan.The one who exists first does not need anything from one who is later.On the contrary,the later one looks up to the first one in its light. For the Perfect One is majestic,it is purely and immeasurably great. It is the World that gives a world,the Life that gives life,the Blessed One that gives blessedness,the Knowledge that gives knowledge,the Good One that gives goodness,the Mercy that gives mercy and redemption,the Grace that gives grace. Not that it is actually like this.Rather,it gives immeasurable and incomprehensible light............................

Hello OP,

I will share my humble view;

God is a spiritual body.

A body has many members which perform many functions.

The Father is the head of the spiritual body.

amazing poem..

wow.

it is the Father of us all,

it is where we come from,He is us

i think that is correct

actually it had to be true,otherwise now its a lie too

this came from "the Secret book of John",these are the words that Jesus taught his deciples................

that really moves me inside because earlier today i was meditating on the infinite prowess of G-D, and how the father cannot be described in such dualistic terms.. in fact, a vague description is necessary for in its detail it reveals such vast knowledge of the subject.

jesus did not dare set a constraint on the father

why should we?

the same Father YOU have, the Creator of all that is.

the genetic father of the BODY used for the incarnation was Gabriel of Nebadon. He did not have sex with Mary. Test tube baby.

Omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient energy that manifests substance to form and animate the heavens, the earth, and the fullness thereof.

There are no animals, plants, or people etc... Those are just sounds used by the manifest for communicative purposes.

how dare you insight such calamity.

I'll tell you who he is NOT>..
He's NOT "Yahweh", that murdering jealous blood thirsty "God" of the old testament, whose followers are STILL wreaking havoc in the world today...
(See current actions of Israel for reference)

Yahweh was / is the God that the hypocrite Pharisees pledged allegiance to,
and Jesus condemned them for this.....



Jesus's Father in Heaven was/ is ENKI.







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this is not accurate. You can find the real one given someplace here: [link to www.freewebs.com]

There is lots more huge truth in the pdf linked.

I haven't put it on MY new computer yet, so I didn't look it up for you. better you do it anyway. The actual version is much better, But as to your post, Our Father in heaven, is within you and thus the false translation of the real lord's prayer, put the Father up in the sky some place, when he is within you.

i love how this thread gets taken over by a bunch of role players

as if i cant tell the truth from the illusion.

justice is served.

The ancient of days.

13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. Dan 7 13-14

OK I re downloaded the link above.

this is from Jesus NOW translating as he gave it back then with teaching.


PRAYER
"When you pray, you shall call upon the omnipotence of the spirit, and you should not babble as do the ignorant and selfish, for they think that they are heard because they use many, and grand, words. The spirit of man does not require many words, but it requires the knowledge of its power. Pray, therefore, in knowledge to the almightiness of the spirit that its grandeur and power is infinite.

"If you do not know how to pray directly to the almighty power of the spirit, then use instead something sacred through which you will enter into the spirit. But never be like the ignorant, the hypocrites, and the selfish who revere some "thing" or object believing that the almighty power of the spirit somehow dwells within "it". Ye must be aware that the object is only an opening of the way through which the almighty power of the spirit can be reached within thy self. Therefore, pray as ones that "know", and therefore you should pray thusly:

A PERFECT PRAYER
"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

"For when you pray to your spirit, whatever you request will be given to you if it truly is a desire, for believe with knowledge and you will receive.
SPIRITUAL POVERTY

You have spoken well!blessings to you and may the "Perfect One's will be done..........................

The Urantia Jesus is not the Jesus of biblical revelation. Great article on this antichrist cultist writing here.
[link to www.letusreason.org]

you are a blessing to me thank you for such a great post.

it really gave me faith.

something i have been recently lacking.

but it seems the cosmos have answered me.

There is truth Ask and you will recieve seek and you will find,sit on the fence and be destroyed,with the tares..................................

evolution is necessary to change

its bound to take place.

no doubt with a little help from him in the creativity dept

artists gotta stick together