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How humans are not physically created to eat meat

 
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Although some historians and anthropologists say that man is historically omnivorous, our anatomical equipment * teeth, jaws, and digestive system favors a fleshless diet. The American Dietetic Association notes that "most of mankind for most of human history has lived on vegetarian or near-vegetarian diets."

And much of the world still lives that way. Even on most industrialized countries, the love affair with meat is less than a hundred years old. It started with the refrigerator car and the twentieth-century consumer society. But even with the twentieth century, man's body hasn't adapted to eating meat. The prominent Swedish scientist Karl von Linne states, "Man's structure, external and internal, compared with that of the other animals, shows that fruit and succulent vegetables constitute his natural food." The chart below compares the anatomy of man with that of carnivorous and herbivorous animals.

When you look at the comparison between herbivores and humans, we compare much more closely to herbivores than meat eating animals. Humans are clearly not designed to digest and ingest meat.

Meat-eaters: have claws
Herbivores: no claws
Humans: no claws

Meat-eaters: have no skin pores and perspire through the tongue
Herbivores: perspire through skin pores
Humans: perspire through skin pores

Meat-eaters: have sharp front teeth for tearing, with no flat molar teeth for grinding
Herbivores: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding
Humans: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding

Meat-eaters: have intestinal tract that is only 3 times their body length so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quickly
Herbivores: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.
Humans: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.

Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat
Herbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater
Humans: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater

Meat-eaters: salivary glands in mouth not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits.
Herbivores: well-developed salivary glands which are necessary to pre-digest grains and fruits
Humans: well-developed salivary glands, which are necessary to pre-digest, grains and fruits

Meat-eaters: have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Herbivores: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Humans: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Based on a chart by A.D. Andrews, Fit Food for Men, (Chicago: American Hygiene Society, 1970)


Clearly if humans were meant to eat meat we wouldn't have so many crucial ingestive/digestive similarities with animals that are herbivores.

Many people ask me, "If we weren't supposed to eat meat than why do we?". It is because we are conditioned to eat meat. Also, the ADA (American Dietetic Association) tells us that "most of mankind for most of human history has lived on a vegetarian or Lacto-ovo vegetarian diet."

A popular statement that meat eaters say is; "In the wild, animals kill other animals for food. It's a part of nature." First of all, we are not in the wild. Secondly, we can easily live without eating meat and killing. We all would be healthier this way. Finally, as I have already shown, we weren't meant to eat meat. Meat putrefies within 4 hours after consumption and the remnants cling to the walls of the intestines for 14-21 days. If a person is suffering from constipation the rotting meat can stay in the intestines for months or years. Furthermore, the saliva in humans is more alkaline, whereas in the case of flesh-eating or preying animals, it is clearly acidic. The alkaline saliva does not act properly on meat.

The final point I would like to make on how we as humans were not meant to eat meat is this; all omnivorous and carnivorous animals eat their meat raw. When a lion kills an herbivore for food, it tears right into the stomach area to eat the organs that are filled with blood (nutrients). While eating the stomach, liver, intestine, etc., the lion laps the blood in the process of eating the dead animal's flesh. Even bears that are omnivores eat salmon raw. However, eating raw bloody meat disgust us as humans. This is why we must cook it and season it to buffer the taste of the flesh.

If a deer is burned in a forest fire a carnivorous animal will NOT eat its flesh. Even circus lions have to be feed raw meat so that they will not starve to death. If humans were truly meant to eat meat then we would eat all of our meat raw and bloody. The thought of eating such meat makes one’s stomach turn. This is my point on how we as humans are conditioned to believe that animal flesh is good for us and that we were meant to consume it for survival and health purposes. If we are true carnivores or omnivores we would eat animal flesh raw and bloody. Cooking our meat and seasoning it with salt, ketchup, mayo, mustard or tabasco sauce disguise the awful taste of flesh. This is the only way we as humans would eat meat because we refuse to eat it raw and bloody like real carnivores.

Overall advantages of vegetarianism

You can reap a lot of benefits by being a vegetarian and people have become more aware of the health benefits of being a vegetarian. Animal rights issues is only one of the reasons why people decide to go on a vegetarian diet. People are beginning to care more about the environment. However, the main reason why most people go on vegetarian diet is due to the health benefits.

Meat is not good for you as it clogs your thinking. This is especially true if you eat red meat; white meat has less fat compared to red meat. Excessive intake of fats into your body can result in having a high level of cholesterol. If you think that not eating meat is going to make you look scrawny or unhealthy please think again. Just imagine that cows, goats, gorillas, elephants, rhinoceroses and so on are all vegetarians (herbivores) but look at how tough these animals are. They also have a longer life span compared to the carnivores (meat eating animals).

If you look at the chicken and vulture (carnivores), these animals eat just about everything and notice how unhealthy these animals look. The Chinese believe that the chi or life force in your body is less when you consume meat and so do the Indians with their ancient yogic principles [their life force was called prana].

The great Tai Chi masters of China were adept at preserving their chi. Even though some of the masters were not vegetarians they still had a balanced diet. It has now been scientifically proven that a balanced vegetarian diet is better compared to a diet that is taken with meat.

There are a lot of misconceptions about being a vegetarian; protein is one of the main topics of debate as a lot of people think that you can only get protein from meat. Vegetarians get a lot of protein when they eat a variety of fruits, vegetables, grains and legumes. What vegetarians don't get is the excess protein of the traditional American diet. This type of diet leads to liver toxicity, kidney overload and mineral deficiency diseases.

A lot of people also think that a vegetarian diet is not a balanced diet. Vegetarian diets have a proportion of three macro nutrients which are complex carbohydrates, protein and fat. Vegetarian food sources (plants) tend to be higher sources of most micro nutrients. Another myth that needs to be clarified is the so-called lack of calcium among vegetarians. Many vegetables especially green leafy ones have a good supply of calcium. The truth is that vegetarians suffer less from osteoporosis (a deficiency of calcium that leads to weak bones).

It is not my intention to force people to become vegetarians. However, vegetarianism is my answer to complete health and wellness. The three issues to consider in regard to vegetarianism are: spiritual, mental and physical (nutritional).

The spiritually aspiring person attempts to work on his/her self. The purpose of spiritual growth is to move away from the animal nature into the more human nature that God intended for us to have. Meat eating inhibits this. The same science that attempts to ignore the existence of a force higher than man also proved that aggression levels are much higher in meat eaters than non-meat eaters! The animal instincts become more powerful every time you eat meat. Another spiritual aspect of being a meat eater is when one must question the necessity and method of killing animals. However, everyone has their own morals to which they must determine for themselves. It is not the purpose of my dissertation to force a specific moral behavior on anyone. Most spiritual people believe in auras. Kirilian photography shows us that a force field still remains around dead or amputated flesh. You adopt that animal aura when you eat it's dead flesh. Fruits and vegetables have a higher vibration al aura than animal products.

“You are what you eat”, is a slogan that I love to use to show the mental aspect of vegetarianism. When animals are slaughtered, fear and aggression enzymes are shot into their muscle tissue. They remain in the meat until the consumer ingests the flesh and adapts the same emotions. Fruits and vegetables do not have emotions; therefore, when they are picked they do not release any emotional cells prior to digestion. The enzymes within fruits and vegetables supply the body with sufficient nutrients that will always uphold a healthy state of mind.

Fruits and vegetables are high in nutrients; the very thing the body needs to live a long disease and pain free life. The same cannot be said for meat. Nutritionally, the alkaline-based digestive system of humans will not properly break down substantial acid substances of meat.

Colon cancer is rampant! This is caused by the slow evacuation and putrefaction of meat in the colon. Lifelong vegetarians never suffer from such an illness. Many meat eaters believe that meat is the sole source of protein. However, the quality of this protein is so poor that little of it can ever be utilized by humans. This is due to its incomplete combination of amino acids [the building blocks of protein]. Studies show that the average American gets five times the amount of protein needed. It is a common medical fact that excess protein is dangerous. The prime danger of excess meat consumption is uric acid (the waste product produced in the process of digesting protein). Uric acid attacks the kidneys and breaks down the kidney cells called nephrons. This condition is called nephritis; the prime cause of it is overburdening the kidneys. More usable protein is found in one tablespoon of tofu or soybeans than the average serving of meat!

Have you ever seen what happens to a piece of meat that stays in the sun for three days? Meat can stay in the warmth of the intestine for at least four to five days until it is digested. It does nothing but wait for passage. Often, it usually stays there for much longer. Medical doctors have found traces of undigested meat remaining in the colon for up to several months. Colonic therapists always see meat passing through people who have been vegetarians for several years, thus indicating that meat remains undigested there for a long time. Occasionally this has been documented in twenty-year vegetarians!

Some vegetarians claim they are more satisfied after they eat. The reason for this is that there are fewer ketones (protein-digestive substances) formed when vegetable protein is digested. For many, ketones cause a trace amount of nausea which one normally interprets as a decreased desire for food due to this uncomfortable and slight degree of queasiness. Although the body calls for more food, the taste buds tolerate less. This is the danger of the popular high-protein diet substances on the market. This abnormally high level of ketones is called ketosis and refers to the state of starvation that the body incurs due to the inability of the appetite to call for nutrition. Most Americans who eat the wrong type of carbohydrates never recognize the high amount of complex carbohydrates required to overthrow this condition. Keep in mind that when the blood ketone level are too high it results in abnormally acidic blood called acidosis.

Tigers or lions who eat meat have an acid-based digestive systems. Our Hydrochloric Acid isn’t strong enough to fully digest meat. Also, their intestines measures about five feet long, not twisted and turned, layer over layer, compacted into a small area like the human intestine [which is twenty feet long].

Meats are frozen for a long period of times. Some meats (especially poultry) are frozen up to two years. Cold temperatures do not kill all species of bacteria. Worse than this, as it is shipped and stored, most frozen meat is thawed and refrozen many times. This is almost unavoidable.

Meat eaters suffer more frequently from various types of food poisoning than vegetarian. Statistics show that every American has had food poisoning at least once. When you've felt ill, had diarrhea or were just a little sick to your stomach, no doubt you had not the slightest idea that you had been poisoned by scavengers living off the dead carcass you just ate.

Meat is costly and it is the most wasteful source of resources. When one removes meat from his or her diet a whole new world of eating opens up. Cooking and preparing vegetarian style is no more time consuming than cooking meat. It costs less than half as much to eat vegetarian as it does to eat meat. There are excellent, nutritious, and easy to prepare vegetarian dishes that are Italian, Chinese, Indian, Mid-Eastern, French, Spanish, etc.

Additionally, one can enjoy many other foods that he or she has never tasted because of the meat craze. Most consumers have eaten no more than five or six varieties of beans and legumes. This is less than 10% of what is available.

In my opinion, there are far more benefits to becoming a vegetarian then there are staying a meat eater. Due to the fact that I was raised on meat, I have experienced both worlds. As a meat eater I was constantly sick, tired, and overweight. As a vegetarian, I am healthy, full of energy and maintaining a perfect weight. I love being a vegetarian and it shows. Because I wish the best for myself, it’s just second nature to want the best for others. From my past experience and research, going vegetarian is the best thing anyone can do for their mind, body and spirit.
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Weak examples truly. Human's have canine teeth, which are sharp and created for tearing. I guess the article somehow missed that and said we have no sharp teeth at all.
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Not only that but our front teeth are specifically designed to tear flesh from the bone. Look at the way you use your teeth.

You stick celery in the back teeth to crunch it.

you stick a chicken leg in your front teeth and rip the meat off.
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OP, nice work dude. I like it. 5 stars and pin req.

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You tell a lie when you say that humans have no claws, Yes we do. We use a fork to stab the meat and we use a knife to cut it into small peices. Why do you think God made forks and knives. So us humans can eat meat. Beside I will take what God says any day over what a human says. Now please excuse me I must check on my steak.
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Further, and this is the real kicker here.

The two next smartest creatures on the planet - chimps and dolphins ARE NOT vegetarians.

Your whole "meat clogs your thinking" is insanely incompetent.

The brain requires ENERGY to think, the best and most dense sources of energy is MEAT.


Stop trying to protect the environment, save the poor cows, or be "healthy and smarter." You're only hurting yourself.
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PERSONALLY: Vegetarian. Raw foodist. Often junk food addict (emotional issues).

There's nothing wrong with vegetarianism, but plenty with your average modern day vegetarian/vegan.

For a start, vegan/vegetarian/meat-eater alike EVERYTHING is polluted/poisoned and usually of less nutritional value than it has been in human history.

Too many vegans rely of soya. It's poison. I fell for it until I was corrected. Soya this, soya that.

B12. Yes, you need very little and out in the wild you'd no doubt definitely get it from the dirt of your veg and fruit, and the insects you'd no doubt ingest daily on/in your fruit and vegetables. There's no really debating this. Anyone thinking ancient man would have needed full-on dead animal for this is fucking ignorant as crap. How many times does this have to be stated before people stop replying with "B12, I win!" Clue for ya LEARN TO FUCKING READ.

^Of course that's the problem for modern vegans. No dirt B12, no insect B12 or other "in the wild" B12 interactions. Fortified? Useless. It's usually the kind that is beyond poor for absorption, plus the food that is "fortified" is likely some pile of junk anyway. From studies I've seen and read it's quite common for meat-eaters to be low in B12 too. If anything the "knowledgable vegans/vegetarians" of today are more likely to have better B12 levels to most of you standard eaters because they supplement with super-absorbing B12 kinds.

Too many modern vegans eat massive amounts of grains. You think meat-eating is unnatural? That's just as unnatural! Humans weren't designed to eat all these processed grains! Look at when agriculture first started, how long had humans already been around? Look at how much processing has to be done to get them to be edible and they're still full of crap not good for you. Face it, eating meat AND grains is unnatural, and were only used as quick sources of masses of calories. True human nutrition came from the fruits/veggies/roots/leaves/nuts/seeds/insects/breast milk/clean water. And living in an environment that didn't assault it at every angle constantly never-ending.
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What the veganazi's don't understand, which is fine with me, is that meat in the animal world, is considered a massive boost.

Parrots and Cockatoos will crunch up animals bones and eat the marrow, these birds are not birds of prey. But they will eat animal bones because they know it is loaded with nutrition.

I have Chinchillas, vegetarian apparantly, if I put an insect near them they chomp it and eat it.

Meat is prized for a reason. Now meat and McDonalds are two different stories, the shit at McD's isn't meat.
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vegan for the win

i dont get sick, you meat eaters better go get your flu shots, and take some more years off your life
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Gladly, this world is full of hate, greed and war. Who in their right mind would want to stay here any longer than we have to?
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if I had my way I would gladly cook and eat the OP

We humans are meat eaters..meat is a resource that is hard to get in the third world which is why they have smaller brains..unfortunately..

going vegan is like anal sex, it's only for those that wish to stand out in a stupid way
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if I had my way I would gladly cook and eat the OP

We humans are meat eaters..meat is a resource that is hard to get in the third world which is why they have smaller brains..unfortunately..

going vegan is like anal sex, it's only for those that wish to stand out in a stupid way
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You should not eat another carnivore! That's how disease spreads!
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if I had my way I would gladly cook and eat the OP

We humans are meat eaters..meat is a resource that is hard to get in the third world which is why they have smaller brains..unfortunately..

going vegan is like anal sex, it's only for those that wish to stand out in a stupid way
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Meat eaters are stronger and smarter. OP do you wish for our children to become weak dumbtards?
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i am the strongest, fastest and i have the most stamina at my workplace out of a sesonal crew of 300 people all being vineyard laborers! and i have an IQ of 160 as of last week!
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The top ten most powerful animals on earth do not eat meat
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Plankton, is meat. Therefore: Blue whale, humpback whale, sperm whale, colossal squid, giant squid, orca, whale shark, maco shark, tiger shark, great white- are all meat eating animals currently alive, which are pound for pound stronger than an elephant.
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Meat eaters are stronger and smarter. OP do you wish for our children to become weak dumbtards?
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i am the strongest, fastest and i have the most stamina at my workplace out of a sesonal crew of 300 people all being vineyard laborers! and i have an IQ of 160 as of last week!
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The top ten most powerful animals on earth do not eat meat
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Plankton, is meat. Therefore: Blue whale, humpback whale, sperm whale, colossal squid, giant squid, orca, whale shark, maco shark, tiger shark, great white- are all meat eating animals currently alive, which are pound for pound stronger than an elephant.
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Um, not exactly.

Phytoplankton

The one celled algae that make up the phytoplankton, using only sun, water and some trace minerals like any good vegetable, manages to produce proteins, amino acids and some basic carbohydrates. The waste product of this process is ninety percent of the oxygen we all enjoy so much. The concentration of this waste allowed our oxygen dependant animal friends, the zooplankton, to develop and thrive while keeping the phytoplankton from poisoning or over populating itself.

Zooplankton

Zooplankton are not one type of organism either. What will class an animal in the all inclusive family of zooplankton is more a matter of being between the size of a bacteria and a tiny fish that you can see with the naked eye.

The basic ingredient in this blend is a 70 percent mix of crustacean species representing all of the possible variations in size. Add to this generous amounts of rotifers and protozoa plus every egg and larval stage of every fish and shellfish on the planet, and spice with a dash of krill according to taste. To give the concoction some body we must not forget to add the gelatinous zooplankton, including jellyfish, medusae, salps and comb jellies, collectively called gelata.
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the weston a price foundation proves all of your theories wrong op.
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If I wasn't meant to eat meat...then why do I have 4 Canine (2 on top, 2 on bottom)?
Those teeth were designed to rip and shred a fat juicy T-Bone! Why else would I have those teeth? To look cool?!
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This post goes to prove that you only read the title,not the article.
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Omnivores. Meat, or better yet fish, is only needed 2-3 times a week though imo
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Although I would like to agree .. I was vegan for a long time ..

This kid I babysat for had chest pain when he was in his early teens .. when he went to the hospital they found out his chest cavity (bones) .. weren't expanded correctly for his heart ..

The cause was no meat in his diet and his parents didn't adjust his diet correctly, not even being vegetarians .. he refused to eat meat since he was about 2 of 3 .. and it created a deficiency ..

If we weren't meant to be meat eaters our body would adjust to the unbalanced diet without assistance ..
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I agree with Laura on this

The vegan/vegetarian lifestyle is being pushed by monsanto and big GM firms. The idea is to get people off meat and into GM grown beans/corn

watch as price of meat will keep rising.

Also Google Moringa, it's a plant that makes you infertile. They plan to plant large amounts of it in Africa for people to eat.
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You're right about this, Monsanto is heavily into modified soy and corn, eek!
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The person who posted this about Moringa is either a complete liar or completely ignorant.

Laura Bow, do some googling yourself on Moringa before you make yourself out to be more of an ass than you just did.

I grow Moringa. I know all about Moringa. It cure infertility!
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If I wasn't meant to eat meat...then why do I have 4 Canine (2 on top, 2 on bottom)?
Those teeth were designed to rip and shred a fat juicy T-Bone! Why else would I have those teeth? To look cool?!
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I can see the most unattractive person, and if they have nice sharp canines .. or pushed forward canines .. I am oddly attracted to them ..

Always thought I was a freak .. it all makes sense now ..
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the OP has been seriously discredited by most posters.

Soy is one of the most poisonous things for the body..Beans are horrible and contain soy..Soy will give you cancer and will mess with your sexual hormones...resulting in very early aging and all kinds of diseases

Amino acids cannot be found in the right amounts with the right bio-availability in plant based diets and cannot be replaced with synthetic alternatives.

The other problem is that we really cannot isolate all the products of animals and what sort of effect they have on us...Fish for example contains a lot of compounds that aren't naturally made in plants but only in fish, you cannot just cut that out of your diet and replace the fish with some generic and cheap nutritional supplements..vegetarians cannot play God.

By the way. a lot of people seem to think that if others can survive on plants then they can too. That line of reasoning is simply false..there is something called an epi-genome..which is the altered genome passed on from your parents and it determines how much good stuff you can extract from food and in what amounts do you need certain foods..you also develop your own epi-genome changes early on in childhood...so switching to a vegan diet at 30 will be one of the most radical and unhealthy decisions you can make..most vegans don't have any education in genetics or nutrition and are just following fads that they themselves have very little idea about.
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I agree with Laura on this

The vegan/vegetarian lifestyle is being pushed by monsanto and big GM firms. The idea is to get people off meat and into GM grown beans/corn

watch as price of meat will keep rising.

Also Google Moringa, it's a plant that makes you infertile. They plan to plant large amounts of it in Africa for people to eat.
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You're right about this, Monsanto is heavily into modified soy and corn, eek!
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The person who posted this about Moringa is either a complete liar or completely ignorant.

Laura Bow, do some googling yourself on Moringa before you make yourself out to be more of an ass than you just did.

I grow Moringa. I know all about Moringa. It cure infertility!
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Wrong

Laura, google estorgesm and Moringa..

Moringa is used in Africa as a cheap contraceptive..it results in sex hormone changes and leads to permanent infertility.

There is a good reason why t he UN are looking at growing Moringa all over Africa..and it's not for the vitamin content.

Miracle tree my ass
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the OP has been seriously discredited by most posters.
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Didn't even take that long!
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*estrogen
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Soy formula causes Hispanic infants to start puberty, in the first few years of their life ..

Oddly there is fast food fillers of soy in every fast food restaurant .. go into the hood and there is a fast food restaurant on every corner .. and 10 year old girls walking around looking like women ..

Hmmmmm .. wonder why? ..


Soy is no good ..

I do love edamames though :)
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*estrogen
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Soy formula causes Hispanic infants to start puberty, in the first few years of their life ..

Oddly there is fast food fillers of soy in every fast food restaurant .. go into the hood and there is a fast food restaurant on every corner .. and 10 year old girls walking around looking like women ..

Hmmmmm .. wonder why? ..


Soy is no good ..

I do love edamames though :)
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Holy shit, is that why 8 year old girls in Peru were growing breasts back in the eighties?
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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
I became ovo-lacto vegetarian about two years ago. If you've ever seen an animal being butchered alive (I have), it's not a nice thing, but never had the will to cut off meat until then.

Digestion certainly improved, and have much less of that bloated feeling. My family also noticed that I became more energetic (I didn't think of that myself). However, for a long time I felt a bit hazy and craved lots of sugar, so a month ago or so I adjusted my diet from mostly complex carbs(i.e. brown bread) to more legumes and dairy, and I also started exercising. Now I feel much better and no longer have those sugar cravings.
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Re: How humans are not physically created to eat meat
I agree with Laura on this

The vegan/vegetarian lifestyle is being pushed by monsanto and big GM firms. The idea is to get people off meat and into GM grown beans/corn

watch as price of meat will keep rising.

Also Google Moringa, it's a plant that makes you infertile. They plan to plant large amounts of it in Africa for people to eat.
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You're right about this, Monsanto is heavily into modified soy and corn, eek!
 Quoting: Laura Bow


The person who posted this about Moringa is either a complete liar or completely ignorant.

Laura Bow, do some googling yourself on Moringa before you make yourself out to be more of an ass than you just did.

I grow Moringa. I know all about Moringa. It cure infertility!
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Wrong

Laura, google estorgesm and Moringa..

Moringa is used in Africa as a cheap contraceptive..it results in sex hormone changes and leads to permanent infertility.

There is a good reason why t he UN are looking at growing Moringa all over Africa..and it's not for the vitamin content.

Miracle tree my ass
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Prove it.
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the OP has been seriously discredited by most posters.

Soy is one of the most poisonous things for the body..Beans are horrible and contain soy..Soy will give you cancer and will mess with your sexual hormones...resulting in very early aging and all kinds of diseases

Amino acids cannot be found in the right amounts with the right bio-availability in plant based diets and cannot be replaced with synthetic alternatives.

The other problem is that we really cannot isolate all the products of animals and what sort of effect they have on us...Fish for example contains a lot of compounds that aren't naturally made in plants but only in fish, you cannot just cut that out of your diet and replace the fish with some generic and cheap nutritional supplements..vegetarians cannot play God.

By the way. a lot of people seem to think that if others can survive on plants then they can too. That line of reasoning is simply false..there is something called an epi-genome..which is the altered genome passed on from your parents and it determines how much good stuff you can extract from food and in what amounts do you need certain foods..you also develop your own epi-genome changes early on in childhood...so switching to a vegan diet at 30 will be one of the most radical and unhealthy decisions you can make..most vegans don't have any education in genetics or nutrition and are just following fads that they themselves have very little idea about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302314


blah lots of babble really

I mean what's this supposed to mean: "Beans are horrible and contain soy". Really? Have you tried red kidney beans? Broad Beans? Any other type of beans? There are so many, and they don't contain soy.

"Amino acids cannot be found in the right amounts with the right bio-availability in plant based diets and cannot be replaced with synthetic alternatives."

Another bold statement right there. Lots of plants can provide more than 20 grams of protein per 100 grams, which is close to what meat provides, and their amino-acid profiles are alright. Furthermore, you can mix and match to get what you need.

Finally, your statement about fish is unfalsifiable, so it's pointless to try to dissect it. Just please stop with your wild generalizations. It's true it's more difficult for vegans to get the nutrition they need, but it's certainly not impossible. You do not need to eat meat to survive well.
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