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God lied to everyone...?
Every week theres at least 1 article about a priest raping little boys and girls. The reports are never ending with more and more coming out.
Things just don't make any sense, these priest represent God and are ment to spread his word to the masses. Why does God let them get away with this. Shouldn't they burst into flames for doing such damaging actions against God and his churches.

God use to take action 2000 years ago with all type of things happening according to the bible now he does nothing.
Which brings you to conclude- God is dead, he doesn't care about us anymore or as they say evil is the biggest lair maybe God tricked everyone and god is the real evil and Satan was the good one which would explain why theres no more miracles anymore.
Lastly I feel since those that are ment to be spreading his word are so out of control with their actions (greed, rape and everything else) that come judgement day, God has to give everyone a free ticket cause lets face they arent doing a very good job.
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The bible is the lie or does the talking snake need to tell u that?
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Remember the totally inaccurate story they used to tell about Giles de Rais killing thousands and thousands of children in an attempt to draw down the wrath of God and thereby verify His existence. This was supposedly after Giles watched St. Joan die and he was angry at God for not saving her.

[link to www.trutv.com]

(you can get a lot of this from Forever Knight, too)
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Every week theres at least 1 article about a priest raping little boys and girls. The reports are never ending with more and more coming out.
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Indeed. Sinful men said to represent God being paraded all over. Produces the same response in many as it does in you. An effective strategy used by the adversary.

Things just don't make any sense, these priest represent God and are ment to spread his word to the masses. Why does God let them get away with this. Shouldn't they burst into flames for doing such damaging actions against God and his churches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27592747


Make no mistake OP, whatever a man sows he shall reap.

God use to take action 2000 years ago with all type of things happening according to the bible now he does nothing.
Which brings you to conclude- God is dead, he doesn't care about us anymore or as they say evil is the biggest lair maybe God tricked everyone and god is the real evil and Satan was the good one which would explain why theres no more miracles anymore.
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God takes action everyday. God is also very patient and gracious and merciful. Not wanting any to perish but to come to the repentance.

Lastly I feel since those that are ment to be spreading his word are so out of control with their actions (greed, rape and everything else) that come judgement day, God has to give everyone a free ticket cause lets face they arent doing a very good job.
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Does you spirit teach you right from wrong?
Does God not instruct each of us what is right and wrong?
Every man shall give an account for the things he has said and done. Every mans works shall be judged.

Falling prey to the adversaries tactics are no excuse. God gives a man all he needs to overcome this world and its snares.

peace,
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The creation reflects the skill of the creator. Look around the world and what do you see? Death, misery, pain and suffering? If God or the creator was held to human standards, he would be imprisoned and sentenced to death. Would you watch your child get raped or run over by a car if you had the ultimate power to prevent it? God hides in the closet and watches the horror of the reality of this world and does nothing to prevent it. Why can't religi-tards see this ridiculously obvious fact? They proclaim Free Will but ignore the fact that nobody chose (with their free will)to be here in the first place! In a universe of infinite possibilities, is this the best the creator can do? WTF?
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The creation reflects the skill of the creator. Look around the world and what do you see? Death, misery, pain and suffering? If God or the creator was held to human standards, he would be imprisoned and sentenced to death. Would you watch your child get raped or run over by a car if you had the ultimate power to prevent it? God hides in the closet and watches the horror of the reality of this world and does nothing to prevent it. Why can't religi-tards see this ridiculously obvious fact? They proclaim Free Will but ignore the fact that nobody chose (with their free will)to be here in the first place! In a universe of infinite possibilities, is this the best the creator can do? WTF?
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Free will is not a biblical concept.
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God doesn't lie. Men do. Humans do. Fool.

Lots of religious people and priests do evil and break laws in the name of religion. All Religion. Why don't you start there instead of zeroing in on God.

Every man women and child will have their judgement day. From the time we are born we all owe a death.

Everyone of us has a soul and that soul is in our keeping alone. Only you are responsible for your own soul.

This place is the test. What we do when we are here dictates where we go afterwards. Believe or don't believe. When the time come then you will know whats been real or not. Then and only then.
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Every week theres at least 1 article about a priest raping little boys and girls. The reports are never ending with more and more coming out.
Things just don't make any sense, these priest represent God and are ment to spread his word to the masses. Why does God let them get away with this. Shouldn't they burst into flames for doing such damaging actions against God and his churches.

God use to take action 2000 years ago with all type of things happening according to the bible now he does nothing.
Which brings you to conclude- God is dead, he doesn't care about us anymore or as they say evil is the biggest lair maybe God tricked everyone and god is the real evil and Satan was the good one which would explain why theres no more miracles anymore.
Lastly I feel since those that are ment to be spreading his word are so out of control with their actions (greed, rape and everything else) that come judgement day, God has to give everyone a free ticket cause lets face they arent doing a very good job.
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Did you ever read the first few paragraphs from "The Apocalypse of Adam?" Eye opener!!

[link to www.gnosis.org]

Listen to my words, my son Seth. When God had created me out of the earth, along with Eve, your mother, I went about with her in a glory which she had seen in the aeon from which we had come forth. She taught me a word of knowledge of the eternal God. And we resembled the great eternal angels,FOR WE WERE HIGHER THAN THE god WHO CREATED US and the powers with him, whom we did not know.

Then the God who created us, created a son from himself and Eve, your mother.

beebee
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The creation reflects the skill of the creator. Look around the world and what do you see? Death, misery, pain and suffering? If God or the creator was held to human standards, he would be imprisoned and sentenced to death. Would you watch your child get raped or run over by a car if you had the ultimate power to prevent it? God hides in the closet and watches the horror of the reality of this world and does nothing to prevent it. Why can't religi-tards see this ridiculously obvious fact? They proclaim Free Will but ignore the fact that nobody chose (with their free will)to be here in the first place! In a universe of infinite possibilities, is this the best the creator can do? WTF?
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Consider Satan is the creator. This makes the most sense to me at this time. It's Gnostic.
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Consider Satan is the creator. This makes the most sense to me at this time. It's Gnostic.
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Why not rather consider what is written in scripture. That the whole creation was subjected to the fall. By the one who has power to subject all things.
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Consider Satan is the creator. This makes the most sense to me at this time. It's Gnostic.
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Why not rather consider what is written in scripture. That the whole creation was subjected to the fall. By the one who has power to subject all things.
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Collective punishment?
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God doesn't lie. Men do. Humans do. Fool.

Lots of religious people and priests do evil and break laws in the name of religion. All Religion. Why don't you start there instead of zeroing in on God.

Every man women and child will have their judgement day. From the time we are born we all owe a death.

Everyone of us has a soul and that soul is in our keeping alone. Only you are responsible for your own soul.

This place is the test. What we do when we are here dictates where we go afterwards. Believe or don't believe. When the time come then you will know whats been real or not. Then and only then.
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God doesn't lie???? Oh really now!!

"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

They didn't die!!
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Re: God lied to everyone...?
Consider Satan is the creator. This makes the most sense to me at this time. It's Gnostic.
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Why not rather consider what is written in scripture. That the whole creation was subjected to the fall. By the one who has power to subject all things.
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Collective punishment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27822139


A spiritual lesson for all of creation - and those who overcome will receive an eternal reward for a momentary affliction.
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The creation reflects the skill of the creator. Look around the world and what do you see? Death, misery, pain and suffering? If God or the creator was held to human standards, he would be imprisoned and sentenced to death. Would you watch your child get raped or run over by a car if you had the ultimate power to prevent it? God hides in the closet and watches the horror of the reality of this world and does nothing to prevent it. Why can't religi-tards see this ridiculously obvious fact? They proclaim Free Will but ignore the fact that nobody chose (with their free will)to be here in the first place! In a universe of infinite possibilities, is this the best the creator can do? WTF?
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Free will is not a biblical concept.
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But, it is a Christian concept.
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Consider Satan is the creator. This makes the most sense to me at this time. It's Gnostic.
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Why not rather consider what is written in scripture. That the whole creation was subjected to the fall. By the one who has power to subject all things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


Here's the "fall" that is spoken about.

Spirit = THE ALL; the Infinite Living Mind. Spirit is the invisible, moveable, ever active positive principle in motion.

Matter = is solidified spirit. It is the passive of negative principle.

Involution = The descent of spirit into matter; the transmutation of spirit into matter.

Evolution = Matter’s ascent/return to Spirit; the transmutation of matter back into spirit.

There are 4 Great Cycles/Ages of “human” evolution (which involves the involution of the spirit/soul).

Golden Age = We were mostly spiritual in nature, very little matter.

Silver Age = Less spiritual, more matter.

Copper Age = Ever less spiritual and more and more matter

Iron Age = Spirit is now in the dense, barbarial age/state of its involution (it is now mostly matter), and became more and more gross until it reached the very lowest point of the Iron Age and then began the evolution of matter back
to Spirit.
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The creation reflects the skill of the creator. Look around the world and what do you see? Death, misery, pain and suffering? If God or the creator was held to human standards, he would be imprisoned and sentenced to death. Would you watch your child get raped or run over by a car if you had the ultimate power to prevent it? God hides in the closet and watches the horror of the reality of this world and does nothing to prevent it. Why can't religi-tards see this ridiculously obvious fact? They proclaim Free Will but ignore the fact that nobody chose (with their free will)to be here in the first place! In a universe of infinite possibilities, is this the best the creator can do? WTF?
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Consider Satan is the creator. This makes the most sense to me at this time. It's Gnostic.
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I have considered this, but who created Satan?
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Every week theres at least 1 article about a priest raping little boys and girls. The reports are never ending with more and more coming out.
Things just don't make any sense, these priest represent God and are ment to spread his word to the masses. Why does God let them get away with this. Shouldn't they burst into flames for doing such damaging actions against God and his churches.

God use to take action 2000 years ago with all type of things happening according to the bible now he does nothing.
Which brings you to conclude- God is dead, he doesn't care about us anymore or as they say evil is the biggest lair maybe God tricked everyone and god is the real evil and Satan was the good one which would explain why theres no more miracles anymore.
Lastly I feel since those that are ment to be spreading his word are so out of control with their actions (greed, rape and everything else) that come judgement day, God has to give everyone a free ticket cause lets face they arent doing a very good job.
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God will help you. Please seek him for answers.
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Every week theres at least 1 article about a priest raping little boys and girls. The reports are never ending with more and more coming out.
Things just don't make any sense, these priest represent God and are ment to spread his word to the masses. Why does God let them get away with this. Shouldn't they burst into flames for doing such damaging actions against God and his churches.

God use to take action 2000 years ago with all type of things happening according to the bible now he does nothing.
Which brings you to conclude- God is dead, he doesn't care about us anymore or as they say evil is the biggest lair maybe God tricked everyone and god is the real evil and Satan was the good one which would explain why theres no more miracles anymore.
Lastly I feel since those that are ment to be spreading his word are so out of control with their actions (greed, rape and everything else) that come judgement day, God has to give everyone a free ticket cause lets face they arent doing a very good job.
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Because you need to understand that 'God' did not create religions, man did, it is the men that created them that lied to you. They used the name of God to set up a chain of command, and they never stopped, now they use their churches to hide their vile deeds, that was the intention.
God did not lie, man did!
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the priests are certainly lying to everyone to protect each other and their company assets.

one of the latest victims who was raped when 10 yrs old by priest was sent to same priest by church for help and raped again .

this isn't rare incident , it's a culture embedded in the institution that isn't responsible for it's employees actions and religion that states they will be forgiven for it.

what better hunting grounds are there for child rapists.

every church or religious building should have a warning sign .
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I made this thread just to keep my response to this question that gets asked a thousand times a day:

Thread: A Bird's-eye View of History According to the Bible

As for what God used to do or is supposed to do, you have to keep it in context. And if you don't know the Bible you don't know the context.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Every week theres at least 1 article about a priest raping little boys and girls. The reports are never ending with more and more coming out.
Things just don't make any sense, these priest represent God and are ment to spread his word to the masses. Why does God let them get away with this. Shouldn't they burst into flames for doing such damaging actions against God and his churches.

God use to take action 2000 years ago with all type of things happening according to the bible now he does nothing.
Which brings you to conclude- God is dead, he doesn't care about us anymore or as they say evil is the biggest lair maybe God tricked everyone and god is the real evil and Satan was the good one which would explain why theres no more miracles anymore.
Lastly I feel since those that are ment to be spreading his word are so out of control with their actions (greed, rape and everything else) that come judgement day, God has to give everyone a free ticket cause lets face they arent doing a very good job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27592747


Because you need to understand that 'God' did not create religions, man did, it is the men that created them that lied to you. They used the name of God to set up a chain of command, and they never stopped, now they use their churches to hide their vile deeds, that was the intention.
God did not lie, man did!
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You keep attempting to blame the creation instead of the creator. Where does the buck ultimately stop?
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Every week theres at least 1 article about a priest raping little boys and girls. The reports are never ending with more and more coming out.
Things just don't make any sense, these priest represent God and are ment to spread his word to the masses. Why does God let them get away with this. Shouldn't they burst into flames for doing such damaging actions against God and his churches.

God use to take action 2000 years ago with all type of things happening according to the bible now he does nothing.
Which brings you to conclude- God is dead, he doesn't care about us anymore or as they say evil is the biggest lair maybe God tricked everyone and god is the real evil and Satan was the good one which would explain why theres no more miracles anymore.
Lastly I feel since those that are ment to be spreading his word are so out of control with their actions (greed, rape and everything else) that come judgement day, God has to give everyone a free ticket cause lets face they arent doing a very good job.
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Have you ever considered that 'God' is not a personified entity and that the Creation was set into motion and left to evolve naturally, without being continually manipulated and interfered with behind the scenes?

Just throwing it out there. : )

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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Every week theres at least 1 article about a priest raping little boys and girls. The reports are never ending with more and more coming out.
Things just don't make any sense, these priest represent God and are ment to spread his word to the masses. Why does God let them get away with this. Shouldn't they burst into flames for doing such damaging actions against God and his churches.

God use to take action 2000 years ago with all type of things happening according to the bible now he does nothing.
Which brings you to conclude- God is dead, he doesn't care about us anymore or as they say evil is the biggest lair maybe God tricked everyone and god is the real evil and Satan was the good one which would explain why theres no more miracles anymore.
Lastly I feel since those that are ment to be spreading his word are so out of control with their actions (greed, rape and everything else) that come judgement day, God has to give everyone a free ticket cause lets face they arent doing a very good job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27592747


Because you need to understand that 'God' did not create religions, man did, it is the men that created them that lied to you. They used the name of God to set up a chain of command, and they never stopped, now they use their churches to hide their vile deeds, that was the intention.
God did not lie, man did!
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You keep attempting to blame the creation instead of the creator. Where does the buck ultimately stop?
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With the created who fuck up the creation and then blame its creator. You have a choice, that is what was given to you, it is you, the created that fucks with everything and tries to absolve the guilt by blaming the creator. The creator must be sad that you fucked his creations, then you add insult to injury by throwing the blame at him.
You could have chosen to be decent and righteous, but you choose to be another brick in the wall.

If I make a pot and you come along and break it, you will probably either blame the pot or it's maker... mindless and soulless!
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God doesn't lie. Men do. Humans do. Fool.

Lots of religious people and priests do evil and break laws in the name of religion. All Religion. Why don't you start there instead of zeroing in on God.

Every man women and child will have their judgement day. From the time we are born we all owe a death.

Everyone of us has a soul and that soul is in our keeping alone. Only you are responsible for your own soul.

This place is the test. What we do when we are here dictates where we go afterwards. Believe or don't believe. When the time come then you will know whats been real or not. Then and only then.
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God doesn't lie???? Oh really now!!

"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

They didn't die!!
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Thats RIGHT..I saw them walking down the street just the other day alive and well.
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Every week theres at least 1 article about a priest raping little boys and girls. The reports are never ending with more and more coming out.
Things just don't make any sense, these priest represent God and are ment to spread his word to the masses. Why does God let them get away with this. Shouldn't they burst into flames for doing such damaging actions against God and his churches.

God use to take action 2000 years ago with all type of things happening according to the bible now he does nothing.
Which brings you to conclude- God is dead, he doesn't care about us anymore or as they say evil is the biggest lair maybe God tricked everyone and god is the real evil and Satan was the good one which would explain why theres no more miracles anymore.
Lastly I feel since those that are ment to be spreading his word are so out of control with their actions (greed, rape and everything else) that come judgement day, God has to give everyone a free ticket cause lets face they arent doing a very good job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27592747


Because you need to understand that 'God' did not create religions, man did, it is the men that created them that lied to you. They used the name of God to set up a chain of command, and they never stopped, now they use their churches to hide their vile deeds, that was the intention.
God did not lie, man did!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27838246

You keep attempting to blame the creation instead of the creator. Where does the buck ultimately stop?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26704639


With the created who fuck up the creation and then blame its creator. You have a choice, that is what was given to you, it is you, the created that fucks with everything and tries to absolve the guilt by blaming the creator. The creator must be sad that you fucked his creations, then you add insult to injury by throwing the blame at him.
You could have chosen to be decent and righteous, but you choose to be another brick in the wall.

If I make a pot and you come along and break it, you will probably either blame the pot or it's maker... mindless and soulless!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27838246


Did you choose to be born here? did you choose to be a human? Did you choose your human behavior? Did you choose your race? Did you choose your programming? Why do you insist on blaming yourself and the things not in your control? Answer; Because you have been taught to. Think for yourself.
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"God" never did or said anything to anyone.
All that you witness or hear is the work of men using "god" as an instrument for control in their favor.If ever there was any god, it's hard to imagine it would condone these barbaric acts in it's name. Face it....we're on our own.
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Did you choose to be born here? did you choose to be a human? Did you choose your human behavior? Did you choose your race? Did you choose your programming? Why do you insist on blaming yourself and the things not in your control? Answer; Because you have been taught to. Think for yourself.
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Um... how is anyone supposed to think for themselves if they didn't ever choose anything else?
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Did you choose to be born here? did you choose to be a human? Did you choose your human behavior? Did you choose your race? Did you choose your programming? Why do you insist on blaming yourself and the things not in your control? Answer; Because you have been taught to. Think for yourself.
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Um... how is anyone supposed to think for themselves if they didn't ever choose anything else?
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Maybe they don't choose. Are you really in control and choosing the things you do or are you driven to do the things you do? In other words, are you merely a backseat passenger being led to believe that you are driving?
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bump good shit............ bonghit
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Adam and eve did die theyhad eterna life in paradise no worries or pain til they were deceived satan was there too I just cant figure out how God didnt know he was there and didnt know what he was doing maybe God trusted satan t oo,much
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Did you choose to be born here? did you choose to be a human? Did you choose your human behavior? Did you choose your race? Did you choose your programming? Why do you insist on blaming yourself and the things not in your control? Answer; Because you have been taught to. Think for yourself.
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Um... how is anyone supposed to think for themselves if they didn't ever choose anything else?
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Maybe they don't choose. Are you really in control and choosing the things you do or are you driven to do the things you do? In other words, are you merely a backseat passenger being led to believe that you are driving?
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I was just pointing out that telling someone to think for themselves is in conflict with telling them they make no choices.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)

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