Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 2,936 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 1,763,963
Pageviews Today: 2,429,519Threads Today: 582Posts Today: 10,057
04:16 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse

 
*W77*

User ID: 17445592
Netherlands
11/16/2012 11:45 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
I'm convinced you can have cancer and never know it and recover just fine on your own without any clue that you ever had cancer.

once the doctors get ahold of you, good luck.

Stay away from them and their diagnoses and their drugs!
 Quoting: Vision Thing


Agreed
Mrbillybadass

User ID: 21031197
United States
11/16/2012 11:48 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
You know one thing I've always noticed...Only ever hear of cancer randomly getting found, either a freak check-up, or someone noticed a lump. No one ever felt like shit and say "damn man I think i got the cancer".
Matrix-V

User ID: 27588863
Canada
11/16/2012 12:02 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
You know one thing I've always noticed...Only ever hear of cancer randomly getting found, either a freak check-up, or someone noticed a lump. No one ever felt like shit and say "damn man I think i got the cancer".
 Quoting: Mrbillybadass


yes thats a good point.. I bet most people can live a full pretty decent life with cancer and not even know it. as long as they are working out often and eating pretty good

interesting thought about this. I know HIV and AIDS have nothing to do with each other and AIDS is a doctor administered virus. HIV has been around a LONG time and you can live a full life with it with no problems. heck even my cat has FIV which is close to human HIV. the vet said he can have a normal life and even out grow it if taken care of properly.

its all a sham.. aliens, banks, 'health care', education system, TV and media. its all Bullshit to the tenth power
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 23890563
Canada
11/16/2012 12:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
I'm convinced you can have cancer and never know it and recover just fine on your own without any clue that you ever had cancer.

once the doctors get ahold of you, good luck.

Stay away from them and their diagnoses and their drugs!
 Quoting: Vision Thing


EXACTLY my thoughts earlier today, while I was thinking about my grandparents.

I'm going to do my best throughout my life to not go to a doctor's.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 602706


i agree with this quote



i also had a aunt pass away at an early age of 37 of brast cancer that spread to her bones.... and yes, just like everybody else, before the chemo she was 70% fine.... after chemo she was a zombie... about 10% left...

and then a few weeks later she died....

FUCK YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKERS THAT RUN THIS MEDICAL ORGANIZATION YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT
SpiralOut12

User ID: 23215144
United States
11/16/2012 12:17 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
THC Oil

Love & Light

We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.

Spiral out. Keep going...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 27237669
United States
11/16/2012 12:27 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
Read more: [link to naturalsociety.com]

Great post op - I've suspected this for a long time.bump


..As usual,if you go and read thee ACTUAL study, the information is MUCH different than the "Natural NEWS" headlines...

This discovery suggests that finding a way to block this treatment response in the tumor microenvironment may improve the effectiveness of therapy.

"Cancer therapies are increasingly evolving to be very specific, targeting key molecular engines that drive the cancer rather than more generic vulnerabilities, such as damaging DNA. Our findings indicate that the tumor microenvironment also can influence the success or failure of these more precise therapies." In other words, the same cancer cell, when exposed to different "neighborhoods," may have very different responses to treatment.

The major clinical reason that chemotherapy ultimately fails in the face of advanced cancer, Nelson said, is because the doses necessary to thoroughly wipe out the cancer would also be lethal to the patient.

"In the laboratory we can 'cure' most any cancer simply by giving very high doses of toxic therapies to cancer cells in a petri dish. However, in people, these high doses would not only kill the cancer cells but also normal cells and the host," he said.

Therefore, treatments for common solid tumors are given in smaller doses and in cycles, or intervals, to allow the normal cells to recover. This approach may not eradicate all of the tumor cells, and those that survive can evolve to become resistant to subsequent rounds of anti-cancer therapy.
[link to www.fhcrc.org]

...Chemo is NOT very effective in advance stage cancers and in earlier stages it remains VERY effective and should be used in minimum dosages...don't sledgehammer it when a tap will do...this is the general protocol for Chemo therapy...those cases where more substantial doses have been given should be weighed...seems like a excellent study that confirms the value of Chemo and it's DANGEROUS...good research, terrible article from NatNews...as usual,misinforming the public...why do they do that ?..
IssueX

User ID: 14348632
United States
11/16/2012 12:29 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
A team of researchers looking into why cancer cells are so resilient accidentally stumbled upon a far more important discovery. While conducting their research, the team discovered that chemotherapy actually heavily damages healthy cells and subsequently triggers them to release a protein that sustains and fuels tumor growth. Beyond that, it even makes the tumor highly resistant to future treatment.

Read more: [link to naturalsociety.com]
 Quoting: AC 8921201


Good grief, is this news to anyone over the age of 10?

My parents were telling people this back in the 1960s! My mother was a chemist by education, she couldn't repeat this often enough to people

Chemotherapy is a byproduct of chemical warfare agents...it's a POISON

Every friend of mine who has died from cancer, did not die from cancer, but from the god damned treatment. I did the count the other day again...over 10 people, every single one died from the chemo, one, my best friend, died at 52 just 1 day after beginning chemo - from a massive reaction to the drugs :(

The only people I have met who survived a metastasized cancer for 5 years are those who cured it with an all green fast of some kind, whether wheat-grass, barley grass, live raw foods or some variation thereof

Furthermore, nearly every doctor I know has said they would NOT take chemotherapy if diagnosed with cancer, if there were any other option...they know what's up

I believe a national survey put the number at 75% of doctors who wouldn't go through chemo themselves if they could avoid it:

[link to www.jchristoff.com]

But chemotherapy is big business, many hospitals and practices need at least a few hundred good cancer cases a year to survive, so don't expect to see it go away anytime soon

Just another way of culling the herd...
IssueX

User ID: 14348632
United States
11/16/2012 01:22 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
You know one thing I've always noticed...Only ever hear of cancer randomly getting found, either a freak check-up, or someone noticed a lump. No one ever felt like shit and say "damn man I think i got the cancer".
 Quoting: Mrbillybadass


this is truth, actually

My mother has many family members who are doctors. I remember one of them telling us, over 30 years ago, that during autopsies he would often find signs of cancerous tumors in people's bodies, tumors which had appeared and then stopped on their own

...the people were unaware they had these tumors...all had died of other causes like heart attacks or liver failures

Not to say that there arent people who die of spreading cancers, and I don't mean to imply that all doctors are aware of the dangers of chemo...I do believe that many sincerely believe it is the only course of action, and they mostly believe they are helping people

But I do believe that there are cancers and other illnesses which appear in our bodies, and our bodies overcome, without experts ever getting involved...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8545334
United States
11/16/2012 01:26 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
My friend father just died of cancer. They were hitting him with chemo and radiation. I told her that hemp oil cures cancer, along with other NATURAL treatments. No, she could only say that the doctors know how to treat her father. Well, he is now gone at 65 years old, never got to collect any of his retirement pension, nor travel as he had planned.

BTW, do you notice how the breat cancer movement has become like a religion? How much money big pharm is pulling in with this GROWING disease. Question: Does big pharm want to cure breast cancer or are they contributing to the disease? Hmmm, I have my suspicions.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 22961735
United States
11/16/2012 03:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
My father-law would be still here just like many if doctors would take their head out their asses. Why would you give some one poison when they're sick? Does not make any sence to me what so ever!
TooLgasm
User ID: 17854138
United States
11/16/2012 06:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
You know one thing I've always noticed...Only ever hear of cancer randomly getting found, either a freak check-up, or someone noticed a lump. No one ever felt like shit and say "damn man I think i got the cancer".
 Quoting: Mrbillybadass


this is truth, actually

My mother has many family members who are doctors. I remember one of them telling us, over 30 years ago, that during autopsies he would often find signs of cancerous tumors in people's bodies, tumors which had appeared and then stopped on their own

...the people were unaware they had these tumors...all had died of other causes like heart attacks or liver failures

Not to say that there arent people who die of spreading cancers, and I don't mean to imply that all doctors are aware of the dangers of chemo...I do believe that many sincerely believe it is the only course of action, and they mostly believe they are helping people

But I do believe that there are cancers and other illnesses which appear in our bodies, and our bodies overcome, without experts ever getting involved...
 Quoting: IssueX


^^This^^
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2849260
United States
11/16/2012 06:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
My friend father just died of cancer. They were hitting him with chemo and radiation. I told her that hemp oil cures cancer, along with other NATURAL treatments. No, she could only say that the doctors know how to treat her father. Well, he is now gone at 65 years old, never got to collect any of his retirement pension, nor travel as he had planned.

BTW, do you notice how the breat cancer movement has become like a religion? How much money big pharm is pulling in with this GROWING disease. Question: Does big pharm want to cure breast cancer or are they contributing to the disease? Hmmm, I have my suspicions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8545334


Radiation can be extremely harmful as well. I recall a news story many years ago of a reporter who was undergoing treatments for cancer and died from, get this, radiation overdose, not cancer.

Of course, the chances of finding info on that particular case are pretty slim since I heard of it so many years ago, but 'mistakes' like that are still happening today.

[link to seemydeath.com]

Human error was blamed for the radiation overdose, which left Lisa with burns on the back of her neck and head.

Doctors warned the teenager that the blunder could cause long-term brain damage, leading to paralysis and even premature death.


Lisa's father, Ken, 51, told the Daily Record newspaper he blamed the radiation overdose and not the cancer for her death.

"We remain convinced it was the overdoses that did this, not the cancer," he said.


I guess sometimes the cure is worse than the disease, at least in this particular case.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 8921201
United States
11/16/2012 09:07 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
hf
s. d. butler

User ID: 974819
United States
11/16/2012 09:22 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
I'm convinced you can have cancer and never know it and recover just fine on your own without any clue that you ever had cancer.

once the doctors get ahold of you, good luck.

Stay away from them and their diagnoses and their drugs!
 Quoting: Vision Thing


clappa
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25861717
United States
11/16/2012 09:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
Population control? Why else would doctors be making their money off of something that makes cancer worse instead of something that cures it?
s. d. butler

User ID: 974819
United States
11/16/2012 09:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
I'm convinced you can have cancer and never know it and recover just fine on your own without any clue that you ever had cancer.

once the doctors get ahold of you, good luck.

Stay away from them and their diagnoses and their drugs!
 Quoting: Vision Thing


clappa
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 27779653
Puerto Rico
11/16/2012 09:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
Most doctors would refuse chemotherapy, that tells you everything you need to know about it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 27725701
United States
11/17/2012 03:00 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
how could it be otherwise? its like trying to cure an open wound by dousing it with acid.

they knew this all along. its 'depopulation'.
read "the secret covenant'. laid out plain
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 32279853
United States
01/17/2013 01:45 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Whoops! Study Accidentally Finds Chemotherapy Makes Cancer Far Worse
bump

News