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just heard on philly local news they will close

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five stars for that!!!!
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I've noticed in my state a migration of sorts of union factory workers. They all talk big and know just about everything there is to know. So far, no bsflag I've been thru six of em.

As soon as you leave them on their own to do the work they've done in their resume's everything get mucked. Simple fundamentals and industry standards are void in these idiots.

Lying however seems to be a skill they have mastered.
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well stupid fucking unions are to thank for that

you cannot strong arm a company into paying you what it doesn't fucking have!
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The work is very low skilled labor meaning “pick this up…take to that tank…poor in”

But without a worker to do that the company makes.......????

ummm NOTHING!!!!

so tell me how unimportant THAT job is??.......iamwith
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2053311


What I was saying is they think they can strike and expect to make 30 per hour for manual labor? Give me a break! They should have been thankful to have a high paying very low skilled job.

The unions drove up the cost of labor to the point of…fuck it we will close the plant…. Wow that worked out well for everybodynorespect
 Quoting: YaRight


The Unions tried to keep Americans without a degree in a middle class lifestyle and decent retirement like we used to have in the 50s. A wage that lets you live like a human being and not a animal considering if you didnt blow all the money on strippers.

But its all almost gone now.. The laborer class in America is running on 10-18 an hour and one paycheck away from being wiped out.

A news report says more Americans than ever have no savings. no extra. They are living on paycheck to paycheck hanging by a string.

A friend said one reason why it was because of all the illegals driving down wages..
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Where theres union worker factories, theres usually abundance of stripper bars too. The whores like to set up shop and take all that money. I lived in a town like that and the strippers ran amok, drugs and g strings poking out of their jeans when they went shopping in town, Women meeting Johns at the gas station parking lot to charge 300 for a full night of sex. They had no shortage of clients. It really mucked up our town. Kids were afraid to play outside alone. On a good note from all this, its good to see them dry up too, no working mens salaries to leech off of .
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Speaking of bimbos ...

I've noticed the Mexican baking company, Bimbo, selling products in the USA recently.

They might buy those former Hostess factories and reopen them.

Betcha Bimbo pays high union wages. NOT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


Bimbo makes most of the store branded product(private label)

Bimbo owns' all these brands :
» ARNOLD
» BALL PARK
» BIMBO
» BOBOLI
» BROWNBERRY
» EARTHGRAINS
» ENTENMANN'S
» FRANCISCO
» FREIHOFER'S
» MARINELA
» MRS BAIRD'S
» OROWEAT
» SARA LEE
» STROEHMANN
» THOMAS'
» TIA ROSA

Bimbo lease's these brands :
> Roman Meal bread
> Sun-Maid bread
> Cinnabon Bread
> Milton's bread


[link to www.bimbobakeriesusa.com]
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They close it down until 2013 then amazingly Re-Open it "under new management" which is a technicality on paper.

They can then hire all new employee's at minimum wage. These Facsist would pay less than minimum wage if they could get away with it.

These loopholes are great for the 1% but devastating for whole cities and towns across our country.

Don't kid yourself, if the Fascist at Hostess could have bakery's in China, and get it here halfway fresh they would.

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by Thomas Jefferson
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The work is very low skilled labor meaning “pick this up…take to that tank…poor in”

But without a worker to do that the company makes.......????

ummm NOTHING!!!!

so tell me how unimportant THAT job is??.......iamwith
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2053311


What I was saying is they think they can strike and expect to make 30 per hour for manual labor? Give me a break! They should have been thankful to have a high paying very low skilled job.

The unions drove up the cost of labor to the point of…fuck it we will close the plant…. Wow that worked out well for everybodynorespect
 Quoting: YaRight


The Unions tried to keep Americans without a degree in a middle class lifestyle and decent retirement like we used to have in the 50s. A wage that lets you live like a human being and not a animal considering if you didnt blow all the money on strippers.

But its all almost gone now.. The laborer class in America is running on 10-18 an hour...

A friend said one reason why it was because of all the illegals driving down wages..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


The 50's, you mean when one man's dollar was enough to raise a family on. Those days are gone and driving down wages by illegals is a consequence of devaluation of the dollar. In other words USURY.burnit
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Hostess Brands:

Baker's Inn
Beefsteak
Blue Ribbon
Bread du Jour
Butternut Breads
Colombo
Cotton’s
Di Carlo



Drake's
Dolly Madison
Dutch Hearth
Eddy’s
Good Hearth
Holsom
Home Pride
Hostess
J.J. Nissen



Merita
Millbrook
Mrs. Cubbison’s
Nature's Pride
Parisian
Standish Farms
Sweetheart
Toscana
Wonder Bread
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Where theres union worker factories, theres usually abundance of stripper bars too. The whores like to set up shop and take all that money. I lived in a town like that and the strippers ran amok, drugs and g strings poking out of their jeans when they went shopping in town, Women meeting Johns at the gas station parking lot to charge 300 for a full night of sex. They had no shortage of clients. It really mucked up our town. Kids were afraid to play outside alone. On a good note from all this, its good to see them dry up too, no working mens salaries to leech off of .
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Speaking of bimbos ...

I've noticed the Mexican baking company, Bimbo, selling products in the USA recently.

They might buy those former Hostess factories and reopen them.

Betcha Bimbo pays high union wages. NOT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


Bimbo makes most of the store branded product(private label)

Bimbo owns' all these brands :
» ARNOLD
» BALL PARK
» BIMBO
» BOBOLI
» BROWNBERRY
» EARTHGRAINS
» ENTENMANN'S
» FRANCISCO
» FREIHOFER'S
» MARINELA
» MRS BAIRD'S
» OROWEAT
» SARA LEE
» STROEHMANN
» THOMAS'
» TIA ROSA

Bimbo lease's these brands :
> Roman Meal bread
> Sun-Maid bread
> Cinnabon Bread
> Milton's bread


[link to www.bimbobakeriesusa.com]
 Quoting: IIIIIth


Lol .. doesn't it have a fat lil cartoon man on it? ..

I picked it up at the store a few months ago and there was like a hundred ingredient in it and I threw it back ..
.... 22426221213 ....
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They close it down until 2013 then amazingly Re-Open it "under new management" which is a technicality on paper.

They can then hire all new employee's at minimum wage. These Facsist would pay less than minimum wage if they could get away with it.

These loopholes are great for the 1% but devastating for whole cities and towns across our country.

Don't kid yourself, if the Fascist at Hostess could have bakery's in China, and get it here halfway fresh they would.

"Merchants Have No Country"
by Thomas Jefferson
 Quoting: brent pops


You know very little about the baking industry.
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Well one more example of how Unions have destroyed manufacturing in the USA, If they had taken their spoiled asses back to work they would still have a job. Now they are unemployed... Was it worth it Bakers???? Americans better wake up to the future we have garunted for ourselves, Lower wages, lower standard of living. This is how it goes in a country in decline. Our economy is collapsing and Twinkies are not that important
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"Simple reaction by management"?

You mean to go through 2 BKs and still "earn" $125K per month on the backs of the people you ultimately plan on fucking over and firing?

Sounds almost illegal...at the very least it's corruption unchecked. The unions simply wanted to keep it in check somewhat via negotiation.

Don't forget, they filed BK TWICE, and still took $125K PER MONTH. How does that math work???
 Quoting: JackedVegan


Dude, I think the 36 buck an hour spot welder is greedy.
Just as greedy as anybody who takes from anything. I believe unions are greedy.
 Quoting: MultiStrada


$36/hr is about $75K/yr.

You're comparing that to $125K per month?

That's not even in the same universe!

So you think greed is okay as long as management does it, right?
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How many managers are there per 75k employee in your equation?
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75K is what it takes to squeak by now a days to pay taxes on your home, property, health insurance, schools, vehicles, maybe even a little food, at least if you live in NYS, and most aren't even coming close to that.
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Where theres union worker factories, theres usually abundance of stripper bars too. The whores like to set up shop and take all that money. I lived in a town like that and the strippers ran amok, drugs and g strings poking out of their jeans when they went shopping in town, Women meeting Johns at the gas station parking lot to charge 300 for a full night of sex. They had no shortage of clients. It really mucked up our town. Kids were afraid to play outside alone. On a good note from all this, its good to see them dry up too, no working mens salaries to leech off of .
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Speaking of bimbos ...

I've noticed the Mexican baking company, Bimbo, selling products in the USA recently.

They might buy those former Hostess factories and reopen them.

Betcha Bimbo pays high union wages. NOT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


Bimbo makes most of the store branded product(private label)

Bimbo owns' all these brands :
» ARNOLD
» BALL PARK
» BIMBO
» BOBOLI
» BROWNBERRY
» EARTHGRAINS
» ENTENMANN'S
» FRANCISCO
» FREIHOFER'S
» MARINELA
» MRS BAIRD'S
» OROWEAT
» SARA LEE
» STROEHMANN
» THOMAS'
» TIA ROSA

Bimbo lease's these brands :
> Roman Meal bread
> Sun-Maid bread
> Cinnabon Bread
> Milton's bread


[link to www.bimbobakeriesusa.com]
 Quoting: IIIIIth


Lol .. doesn't it have a fat lil cartoon man on it? ..

I picked it up at the store a few months ago and there was like a hundred ingredient in it and I threw it back ..
 Quoting: redrosie


[link to www.bimbobakeriesusa.com]

This is their logo for their named product, looks a lot like wonder bread packaging mixed with the Pillsbury Doughboy.
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well stupid fucking unions are to thank for that

you cannot strong arm a company into paying you what it doesn't fucking have!
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Do you know how much the CEO of Hostess earns?

Driscoll was the previous CEO before new CEO Gregory Rayburn.

"In early February, Hostess had asked the bankruptcy judge to approve a sweet new employment deal for Driscoll. Its terms guaranteed him a base annual salary of $1.5 million, plus cash incentives and "long-term incentive" compensation of up to $2 million. If Hostess liquidated or Driscoll were fired without cause, he'd still get severance pay of $1.95 million as long as he honored a noncompete agreement."
 Quoting: JackedVegan


Oh......well for FUCKs sake there Einstein, that makes it all good. Wouldn't want someone making money......close this bitch up and live on someone else's back. Dick Head!
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They close it down until 2013 then amazingly Re-Open it "under new management" which is a technicality on paper.

They can then hire all new employee's at minimum wage. These Facsist would pay less than minimum wage if they could get away with it.

These loopholes are great for the 1% but devastating for whole cities and towns across our country.

Don't kid yourself, if the Fascist at Hostess could have bakery's in China, and get it here halfway fresh they would.

"Merchants Have No Country"
by Thomas Jefferson
 Quoting: brent pops


You know very little about the baking industry.
 Quoting: IIIIIth


Educate me Mr. Hostess
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Hostess Brands:

Baker's Inn
Beefsteak
Blue Ribbon
Bread du Jour
Butternut Breads
Colombo
Cotton’s
Di Carlo



Drake's
Dolly Madison
Dutch Hearth
Eddy’s
Good Hearth
Holsom
Home Pride
Hostess
J.J. Nissen



Merita
Millbrook
Mrs. Cubbison’s
Nature's Pride
Parisian
Standish Farms
Sweetheart
Toscana
Wonder Bread
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4266146


Hostess doesn't own Blue Ribbon, they may distribute in some areas , but Schmidt Backing company owns that one.

[link to www.schmidtbaking.com]
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End UNIONS!!!!!!! Or we really will lose every bit of manufacturing we have left which isnt much. Americans have got to change their attitudes, we are no longer able to demand a high wage, we cannot afford to run the country. It is sad but true. TPTB will outsource everything. This will become a third world country. WAKE UP
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Mitt: That's a lie Clarence,1800 workers produce Twinkies, my favorite snack!

Clarence: All the workers are unemployed, the workers weren't there to save the Twinkies because you weren't there to save the workers.

Clarence: You see Mitt, you've really had a wonderful life.Don't you see what a mistake it would be to throw it all away?

Happy Holidays Pottersville.
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Unions are part and parcel to the communist transition of the US. They are the armies of the commie pres obongo.
End UNIONS!!!!!!! Or we really will lose every bit of manufacturing we have left which isnt much. Americans have got to change their attitudes, we are no longer able to demand a high wage, we cannot afford to run the country. It is sad but true. TPTB will outsource everything. This will become a third world country. WAKE UP
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Hostess Brands:

Baker's Inn
Beefsteak
Blue Ribbon
Bread du Jour
Butternut Breads
Colombo
Cotton’s
Di Carlo



Drake's
Dolly Madison
Dutch Hearth
Eddy’s
Good Hearth
Holsom
Home Pride
Hostess
J.J. Nissen



Merita
Millbrook
Mrs. Cubbison’s
Nature's Pride
Parisian
Standish Farms
Sweetheart
Toscana
Wonder Bread
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4266146


Hostess doesn't own Blue Ribbon, they may distribute in some areas , but Schmidt Backing company owns that one.

[link to www.schmidtbaking.com]
 Quoting: IIIIIth


Thats still a lot of bread and products. We usually have the Mrs Cubbisons stuffing every thanksgiving too.

We better buy our bread in the morning. Probaly the store brand the way this is going. They might be out of stock by evening.
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well stupid fucking unions are to thank for that

you cannot strong arm a company into paying you what it doesn't fucking have!
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


unions are the problem...
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I bet Little Debbie is thrilled
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This is why 70% of all GM products are made outside the U.S. Unions certainly served a purpose in 1936, but like everything over time corruption and greed have made it a force of destruction rather than for good. Time to end all unions

Last Edited by smokahontas on 11/16/2012 10:15 AM
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Dont worry you will have them outsourced from communist china OPPS I mean "Capitalist Feudal China" were Hostess will get slaves for 50 cents a day !

Or you may get them from any other slave society 3rd world country ....

Blame sheep for that and the GREEdy bastards that control them ..


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ohyeah
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I bet Little Debbie is thrilled
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Yeah, bet they are partying in their offices right now

I like their Nutty Bars and Cosmic Brownies.
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Fudge rounds, and starcrunch MMMMMMMMMMM
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End UNIONS!!!!!!! Or we really will lose every bit of manufacturing we have left which isnt much. Americans have got to change their attitudes, we are no longer able to demand a high wage, we cannot afford to run the country. It is sad but true. TPTB will outsource everything. This will become a third world country. WAKE UP
 Quoting: smokahontas


Americans can not compete with 90 cents an hour labor from China. It can't be done. Of course the 1% hate unions!
Thousands of Americans have died Here IN AMERICA for the right to form unions.

Coal Mine owners wouldn't pay a living wage so the miners went on strike. The Owners brought in paid assasins and slautered the workers.

Railroad workers went through the same process. Now the 1% have Fox News etc. wanting to end unions.

Manufacture in the U.S. and stamp Made In The USA on it.

Our 1% have always been Fascist, thats not ever going to change. If we totally get rid of Unions the rest of us will be at the mercy of Fascist.
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The work is very low skilled labor meaning “pick this up…take to that tank…poor in”

But without a worker to do that the company makes.......????

ummm NOTHING!!!!

so tell me how unimportant THAT job is??.......iamwith
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2053311


What I was saying is they think they can strike and expect to make 30 per hour for manual labor? Give me a break! They should have been thankful to have a high paying very low skilled job.

The unions drove up the cost of labor to the point of…fuck it we will close the plant…. Wow that worked out well for everybodynorespect
 Quoting: YaRight


The Unions tried to keep Americans without a degree in a middle class lifestyle and decent retirement like we used to have in the 50s. A wage that lets you live like a human being and not a animal considering if you didnt blow all the money on strippers.

But its all almost gone now.. The laborer class in America is running on 10-18 an hour...

A friend said one reason why it was because of all the illegals driving down wages..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


The 50's, you mean when one man's dollar was enough to raise a family on. Those days are gone and driving down wages by illegals is a consequence of devaluation of the dollar. In other words USURY.burnit
 Quoting: MultiStrada


The housing market today is catastrophically expensive, Too many middle man mark ups on everything that goes into a home.
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Fudge rounds, and starcrunch MMMMMMMMMMM
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Starcrunch, yeah you bet. All kids love those.. a Little Debbie classic.

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