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AdHocBOHICA User ID: 19723065 United States 11/16/2012 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well stupid fucking unions are to thank for that Quoting: ^TrInItY^ you cannot strong arm a company into paying you what it doesn't fucking have! Do you know how much the CEO of Hostess earns? Driscoll was the previous CEO before new CEO Gregory Rayburn. "In early February, Hostess had asked the bankruptcy judge to approve a sweet new employment deal for Driscoll. Its terms guaranteed him a base annual salary of $1.5 million, plus cash incentives and "long-term incentive" compensation of up to $2 million. If Hostess liquidated or Driscoll were fired without cause, he'd still get severance pay of $1.95 million as long as he honored a noncompete agreement." Oh......well for FUCKs sake there Einstein, that makes it all good. Wouldn't want someone making money......close this bitch up and live on someone else's back. Dick Head! “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
JackedVegan User ID: 9066073 United States 11/16/2012 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no sympathy for these people. Idiot Union members standing around outside with signs, holding an already struggling company hostage. Now they can start standing in the unemployment line. Quoting: JennOfArc The union members are at fault? Sure about that? Do you know ANYTHING about the upper management of Hostess? Obviously, you know shit...read on... "Rayburn announced that the pay of the four top executives would go down to $1 for the year, but that their full salaries would be reinstated no later than Jan. 1. Hostess pays Rayburn $125,000 a month, according to court filings. At the same time Rayburn became CEO, Gephardt's son Matthew, 41, the COO of the Gephardt Group, was put on the Hostess board as a $100,000-a-year independent director." [link to management.fortune.cnn.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27582562 United States 11/16/2012 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All that will happen is hostess will seel the rights to their brands and recipes to other companies who will then start up making twinkies and so forth again, but this time around the union will have no leverage because the workers will be spread out over dozens of companies. |
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JackedVegan User ID: 9066073 United States 11/16/2012 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well stupid fucking unions are to thank for that Quoting: ^TrInItY^ you cannot strong arm a company into paying you what it doesn't fucking have! Do you know how much the CEO of Hostess earns? Driscoll was the previous CEO before new CEO Gregory Rayburn. "In early February, Hostess had asked the bankruptcy judge to approve a sweet new employment deal for Driscoll. Its terms guaranteed him a base annual salary of $1.5 million, plus cash incentives and "long-term incentive" compensation of up to $2 million. If Hostess liquidated or Driscoll were fired without cause, he'd still get severance pay of $1.95 million as long as he honored a noncompete agreement." Oh......well for FUCKs sake there Einstein, that makes it all good. Wouldn't want someone making money......close this bitch up and live on someone else's back. Dick Head! Yeah, wouldn't want the assembly line scrubs making a decent wage, eh fuckstick? What's wrong with leveling the playing field? That's what the unions try to do. Do you want rampant, unchecked corporate CEOs? What if a government were run the same way --- unchecked? fucking |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27582562 United States 11/16/2012 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no sympathy for these people. Idiot Union members standing around outside with signs, holding an already struggling company hostage. Now they can start standing in the unemployment line. Quoting: JennOfArc The union members are at fault? Sure about that? Do you know ANYTHING about the upper management of Hostess? Obviously, you know shit...read on... "Rayburn announced that the pay of the four top executives would go down to $1 for the year, but that their full salaries would be reinstated no later than Jan. 1. Hostess pays Rayburn $125,000 a month, according to court filings. At the same time Rayburn became CEO, Gephardt's son Matthew, 41, the COO of the Gephardt Group, was put on the Hostess board as a $100,000-a-year independent director." [link to management.fortune.cnn.com] Do you really think that companies pay their CEOs lots of money just for the sake or writing large checks, or that they hate the blue collar guys? Are you really that ignorant of economics? CEOs make that amount of money because not many people can run a company that size. Obviously in the case of hostess the CEO should have been making $0 since the company went bust, but CEOs of profitable companies earn their pay. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27335955 Canada 11/16/2012 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's the immigrants that will show up early, stay late and bust ass to make sure deadlines are met. The white employees want to take days off, not show up, come an hour late, leave 5 minutes early, etc... |
Free-Us-Now User ID: 26733678 United States 11/16/2012 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well if Twinkies goes out of business then you can't get these special Treats: Deep Fried Twinkies [link to www.google.com] [link to www.youtube.com] Will you miss them??? |
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AdHocBOHICA User ID: 19723065 United States 11/16/2012 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well stupid fucking unions are to thank for that Quoting: ^TrInItY^ you cannot strong arm a company into paying you what it doesn't fucking have! Do you know how much the CEO of Hostess earns? Driscoll was the previous CEO before new CEO Gregory Rayburn. "In early February, Hostess had asked the bankruptcy judge to approve a sweet new employment deal for Driscoll. Its terms guaranteed him a base annual salary of $1.5 million, plus cash incentives and "long-term incentive" compensation of up to $2 million. If Hostess liquidated or Driscoll were fired without cause, he'd still get severance pay of $1.95 million as long as he honored a noncompete agreement." Oh......well for FUCKs sake there Einstein, that makes it all good. Wouldn't want someone making money......close this bitch up and live on someone else's back. Dick Head! Yeah, wouldn't want the assembly line scrubs making a decent wage, eh fuckstick? What's wrong with leveling the playing field? That's what the unions try to do. Do you want rampant, unchecked corporate CEOs? What if a government were run the same way --- unchecked? fucking I swear, you are one dumb bastard........good thing breathing is a natural thing because you truly are far too stupid breathe on your own. You need a DUMP TRUCK Load of DARWIN Dumped on your miserable carcass. “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
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JackedVegan User ID: 9066073 United States 11/16/2012 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no sympathy for these people. Idiot Union members standing around outside with signs, holding an already struggling company hostage. Now they can start standing in the unemployment line. Quoting: JennOfArc The union members are at fault? Sure about that? Do you know ANYTHING about the upper management of Hostess? Obviously, you know shit...read on... "Rayburn announced that the pay of the four top executives would go down to $1 for the year, but that their full salaries would be reinstated no later than Jan. 1. Hostess pays Rayburn $125,000 a month, according to court filings. At the same time Rayburn became CEO, Gephardt's son Matthew, 41, the COO of the Gephardt Group, was put on the Hostess board as a $100,000-a-year independent director." [link to management.fortune.cnn.com] Do you really think that companies pay their CEOs lots of money just for the sake or writing large checks, or that they hate the blue collar guys? Are you really that ignorant of economics? CEOs make that amount of money because not many people can run a company that size. Obviously in the case of hostess the CEO should have been making $0 since the company went bust, but CEOs of profitable companies earn their pay. That sounds great, and all, except Hostess was paying them $125K A MONTH, after going BANKRUPT!! Ignorant, |
AdHocBOHICA User ID: 19723065 United States 11/16/2012 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no sympathy for these people. Idiot Union members standing around outside with signs, holding an already struggling company hostage. Now they can start standing in the unemployment line. Quoting: JennOfArc The union members are at fault? Sure about that? Do you know ANYTHING about the upper management of Hostess? Obviously, you know shit...read on... "Rayburn announced that the pay of the four top executives would go down to $1 for the year, but that their full salaries would be reinstated no later than Jan. 1. Hostess pays Rayburn $125,000 a month, according to court filings. At the same time Rayburn became CEO, Gephardt's son Matthew, 41, the COO of the Gephardt Group, was put on the Hostess board as a $100,000-a-year independent director." [link to management.fortune.cnn.com] Do you really think that companies pay their CEOs lots of money just for the sake or writing large checks, or that they hate the blue collar guys? Are you really that ignorant of economics? CEOs make that amount of money because not many people can run a company that size. Obviously in the case of hostess the CEO should have been making $0 since the company went bust, but CEOs of profitable companies earn their pay. That sounds great, and all, except Hostess was paying them $125K A MONTH, after going BANKRUPT!! Ignorant, “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27304459 United States 11/16/2012 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to online.wsj.com] "... Adam Hanft, a branding strategist behind Hanft Projects, sees the potential for new life in the death of a decades-old company. A fresh owner of the intellectual property, which includes everything from names to recipes to graphics, could revitalize the Hostess brands, which Mr. Hanft sees as weakened but not lacking potential. He raised the prospect of new flavors, limited-edition Twinkies, products co-branded with independent music groups and the potential for an international reach. "Its nutritional emptiness in the right hands could be its core strength," he said, explaining that a buyer that embraces the brand's "kitschy," "deliciously retro" feel could be rewarded. He foresees a potentially diverse crowd of bidders for the property. ..." |
JackedVegan User ID: 9066073 United States 11/16/2012 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: JackedVegan Do you know how much the CEO of Hostess earns? Driscoll was the previous CEO before new CEO Gregory Rayburn. "In early February, Hostess had asked the bankruptcy judge to approve a sweet new employment deal for Driscoll. Its terms guaranteed him a base annual salary of $1.5 million, plus cash incentives and "long-term incentive" compensation of up to $2 million. If Hostess liquidated or Driscoll were fired without cause, he'd still get severance pay of $1.95 million as long as he honored a noncompete agreement." Oh......well for FUCKs sake there Einstein, that makes it all good. Wouldn't want someone making money......close this bitch up and live on someone else's back. Dick Head! Yeah, wouldn't want the assembly line scrubs making a decent wage, eh fuckstick? What's wrong with leveling the playing field? That's what the unions try to do. Do you want rampant, unchecked corporate CEOs? What if a government were run the same way --- unchecked? fucking I swear, you are one dumb bastard........good thing breathing is a natural thing because you truly are far too stupid breathe on your own. You need a DUMP TRUCK Load of DARWIN Dumped on your miserable carcass. LOL!! Nice retort! Is your lack of a retort due to just having your ass handed to you? Again, what's wrong with the workers leveling the playing field? The CEOs can earn their money, but doing so when THEY bankrupted the company, then fucking over the workers by not taking a pay cut is corrupt as fuck. |
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JackedVegan User ID: 9066073 United States 11/16/2012 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: JackedVegan The union members are at fault? Sure about that? Do you know ANYTHING about the upper management of Hostess? Obviously, you know shit...read on... "Rayburn announced that the pay of the four top executives would go down to $1 for the year, but that their full salaries would be reinstated no later than Jan. 1. Hostess pays Rayburn $125,000 a month, according to court filings. At the same time Rayburn became CEO, Gephardt's son Matthew, 41, the COO of the Gephardt Group, was put on the Hostess board as a $100,000-a-year independent director." [link to management.fortune.cnn.com] Do you really think that companies pay their CEOs lots of money just for the sake or writing large checks, or that they hate the blue collar guys? Are you really that ignorant of economics? CEOs make that amount of money because not many people can run a company that size. Obviously in the case of hostess the CEO should have been making $0 since the company went bust, but CEOs of profitable companies earn their pay. That sounds great, and all, except Hostess was paying them $125K A MONTH, after going BANKRUPT!! Ignorant, Awww, poor baby can't come up with a retort... Come on, how do you justify their upper management "earning" $125K PER FUCKING MONTH??? |
redrosie User ID: 27863918 United States 11/16/2012 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Michelle Obama's way of preventing fat children .. This sucks .. there is a hostess store near me that sells all kinds of bread products, that are cheap and fresh .. baked in the store I think .. two friends also sold out their other trucks and runs, to buy into and work for hostess .. I take it they will, or have already lost their jobs .. .... 22426221213 .... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/16/2012 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27582562 Do you really think that companies pay their CEOs lots of money just for the sake or writing large checks, or that they hate the blue collar guys? Are you really that ignorant of economics? CEOs make that amount of money because not many people can run a company that size. Obviously in the case of hostess the CEO should have been making $0 since the company went bust, but CEOs of profitable companies earn their pay. That sounds great, and all, except Hostess was paying them $125K A MONTH, after going BANKRUPT!! Ignorant, Awww, poor baby can't come up with a retort... Come on, how do you justify their upper management "earning" $125K PER FUCKING MONTH??? That's nothing compared to Obama and his crooked buddies... Way worse. |
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geminilion User ID: 12895036 United States 11/16/2012 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel sorry that they are closing but honestly I don't blame them one bit. ..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way." Heraclitus |
JennOfArc User ID: 25237221 United States 11/16/2012 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The union intentionally killed Hostess. The union wanted Hostess to liquidate. They're betting some other company will come in and save the day, and they'll get a better deal to boot. This is a tactic the teamsters have used before, destroy the host their feeding off of, and hope a fatter more flush host comes along they can glom onto and start feeding off of. |
abeliever Members User ID: 17868616 United States 11/16/2012 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wouldn't it be cheaper for them to close and let Hostess die? Then open another entity NotHostess and hire non-union workers as there are SOOO many people without jobs who would be more than happy to work. These unions are crazy to do this during these times, and the sheeple who follow aren't thinking this through. |
JackedVegan User ID: 9066073 United States 11/16/2012 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To all those complaining about management salaries, this will eliminate those as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459 But isn't it strange, the company didn't tell the CEO "if you don't take a pay cut, we'll shut the company"? Yup. And how about this little tidbit: "But the unions, having three years earlier given up thousands of jobs and millions in benefits, flatly refused." So the unions already fucking tried by giving up a lot just 3 years ago...however, management gave themselves A RAISE! A fucking raise while they were going BANKRUPT! Who the fuck can justify THAT?? Only a fucking |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27586925 United States 11/16/2012 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no sympathy for these people. Idiot Union members standing around outside with signs, holding an already struggling company hostage. Now they can start standing in the unemployment line. Quoting: JennOfArc Will they carry signs in the unemployment line? UHH - maybe they can picket the union office for more benefits? - IDIOTS |