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500,000 year old spear tip

 
7even

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Certainly all stone-age archeology involves guess-work. When it's published by more than one professor from more than one large university, we can usually say their guesses are gonna be better than the guy on the street.

The Paleolithic, or Old-Stone-Age extends from the earliest known use of stone tools, probably by Hominins such as Australopithecines, 2.6 million years ago, to the end of the Pleistocene around 10,000 BP--at the end of the last ice age. The Meso-lithic and Neolithic ages showed gradual changes in use of stone tools.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Just an extinct ape

[link to creation.com]

Certainly did not live 2.6 million years ago, just because wiki "said so". At given erosion rates it along with the entire continent would be washed away.
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Sources please.
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Eroding ages
Dr Tasman Bruce Walker
Creationist Mechanical Engineer and Geologist

It was James Hutton, the Scottish physician-turned-geologist, who suggested in 1785 that the earth was immensely old. His famous assertion that there was ‘no vestige of a beginning, no prospect of an end’ paved the way for Darwin’s theory of evolution. Today most geologists take Hutton’s views for granted. Evolutionists generally accept that the continents formed at least 2.5 billion years ago.

These ideas are found to be wholly unconvincing once we take a closer look. We find that there are many geological processes that indicate the continents are not as old as evolutionists say. One such problem for the old-age idea is erosion. The continents cannot be billions of years old because they would have eroded away long ago. There should be nothing left.

Continents are young

The ‘slow and gradual’ story, suggested by the Scottish physician Hutton two hundred years ago, does not make sense. Old-earthers claim that the continents are over 2.5 billion years old, yet using their own assumptions, the continents should have eroded away in 10 million years. Note that this 10 million years is not the estimated age of the continents. Rather, it highlights the bankruptcy of uniformitarian ideas.

Geologists who believe the Bible consider that the mountains and continents we have today were formed as a consequence of the Flood of Noah’s day. When the continents were uplifted at the end of the Flood, the incredible energy of the retreating floodwaters carved the landscape. Not a lot, geologically speaking, has happened in the 4,500 years since then.
[link to creation.com]
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...one day you will understand why the fluoride is in the water and artificial ingredients are in food and drink...if you desire to awake, read this thread and follow directions> 777 is the number of god because i am god...or you will never get pass the mind control frequencies...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Eroding ages
Dr Tasman Bruce Walker
Creationist Mechanical Engineer and Geologist

It was James Hutton, the Scottish physician-turned-geologist, who suggested in 1785 that the earth was immensely old. His famous assertion that there was ‘no vestige of a beginning, no prospect of an end’ paved the way for Darwin’s theory of evolution. Today most geologists take Hutton’s views for granted. Evolutionists generally accept that the continents formed at least 2.5 billion years ago.

These ideas are found to be wholly unconvincing once we take a closer look. We find that there are many geological processes that indicate the continents are not as old as evolutionists say. One such problem for the old-age idea is erosion. The continents cannot be billions of years old because they would have eroded away long ago. There should be nothing left.

Continents are young

The ‘slow and gradual’ story, suggested by the Scottish physician Hutton two hundred years ago, does not make sense. Old-earthers claim that the continents are over 2.5 billion years old, yet using their own assumptions, the continents should have eroded away in 10 million years. Note that this 10 million years is not the estimated age of the continents. Rather, it highlights the bankruptcy of uniformitarian ideas.

Geologists who believe the Bible consider that the mountains and continents we have today were formed as a consequence of the Flood of Noah’s day. When the continents were uplifted at the end of the Flood, the incredible energy of the retreating floodwaters carved the landscape. Not a lot, geologically speaking, has happened in the 4,500 years since then.
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The depths and breadths of your ignorance eclipse galaxies.
7even

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11/17/2012 02:56 AM
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Eroding ages
Dr Tasman Bruce Walker
Creationist Mechanical Engineer and Geologist

It was James Hutton, the Scottish physician-turned-geologist, who suggested in 1785 that the earth was immensely old. His famous assertion that there was ‘no vestige of a beginning, no prospect of an end’ paved the way for Darwin’s theory of evolution. Today most geologists take Hutton’s views for granted. Evolutionists generally accept that the continents formed at least 2.5 billion years ago.

These ideas are found to be wholly unconvincing once we take a closer look. We find that there are many geological processes that indicate the continents are not as old as evolutionists say. One such problem for the old-age idea is erosion. The continents cannot be billions of years old because they would have eroded away long ago. There should be nothing left.

Continents are young

The ‘slow and gradual’ story, suggested by the Scottish physician Hutton two hundred years ago, does not make sense. Old-earthers claim that the continents are over 2.5 billion years old, yet using their own assumptions, the continents should have eroded away in 10 million years. Note that this 10 million years is not the estimated age of the continents. Rather, it highlights the bankruptcy of uniformitarian ideas.

Geologists who believe the Bible consider that the mountains and continents we have today were formed as a consequence of the Flood of Noah’s day. When the continents were uplifted at the end of the Flood, the incredible energy of the retreating floodwaters carved the landscape. Not a lot, geologically speaking, has happened in the 4,500 years since then.
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So, thinks I, let's have a look at this Walker chap. So Googled the chap and his site has a number of links to his articles. Noah's Ark should be good for a laugh I thought. Instead I found something much more sinister and that is outright lies and fraud in the opening two paragraphs.

"Many geologists claim that Noah could not possibly have built the ark in the manner described in Genesis. They argue that pitch could not have been used to cover the ark and make it waterproof. Pitch, they claim, is derived from oil or coal, and if coal did not form until during the time of Noah’s Flood, he could not possibly have covered the ark with pitch.

For those who are not geologists, pitch is a black glue-like substance left behind when coal tar is heated or distilled. It belongs to the same family of substances as asphalt or bitumen. Today, it is largely produced by heating coal. Most modern geologists know of no other source for it. But coal tar and petroleum are not the only source for pitch. Anyone who takes the time to consult a reasonable dictionary of geology will find that pitch can be extracted by distilling or heating wood. In fact, prior to the rise of the petroleum and coal industries, this was exactly how pitch was made."

[link to creation.com]

You could argue over the semantics of the word pitch, I refuse to. He is deliberately misleading you as is mentioned in the Bitumen Association's web page the Sumerians that gave birth to your Flood myth were using natural bitumen for shipbuilding 6,000 yrs BCE. Which of course screws his Biblical timeline up somewhat.

"Bitumen is the oldest known engineering material and has been used from the earliest times as an adhesive, sealant and waterproofing agent. As long ago as 6000BC the thriving ship-building industry in Sumeria used naturally occurring bitumen, found in surface seepage in the area."

[link to www.bitumenuk.com]

I think creationists like him are evil. For a man like him to not mention the La Brea Tarpits is also criminal, but of course it calls into question the efficacy of the snake oil he's selling you.

[link to www.ucmp.berkeley.edu]

Here's a more easily digested main stream media report

[link to abclocal.go.com]

If you've been a good little creatard and got this far here's a special treat for you. Animatronics at the on site museum of things they have found in the pits.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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...one day you will understand why the fluoride is in the water and artificial ingredients are in food and drink...if you desire to awake, read this thread and follow directions> 777 is the number of god because i am god...or you will never get pass the mind control frequencies...
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Potassium Iodide can saturate the thyroid and prevent radioactive iodine from being absorbed after a nuclear event. In no other way does it prevent "radiation" either in the soil or in the human body.

Some of the possible side effects of long term use: (from Livestrong):

Long-term use of potassium iodide can result in potassium or iodine toxicity. Some signs, as listed by the Mayo Clinic, are the same as common side effects during initial treatment, including burning sensations in the throat, metallic taste, sore gums and increased salivation. Other symptoms may include confusion, irregular heartbeat, severe headache, skin sores, unusual tiredness, weakness, and numbness, pain or tingling in the hands or feet.
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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11/17/2012 05:50 AM
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You can not carbon date steel or rock.
You can only carbon date dna or flesh or plants something that was alive.
You can only carbon date tissue.
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Nowhere does it say that they "carbon dated" the rock.
The rock itself is undoubtedly billions of years old, however,
there are multiple ways to guess the "age" of tools.
and they likely could "carbon date" bone fragments in the strata above it.

Please read before making grade-school comments.
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Erm you kinda forget this one about carbon dating technique.

[link to news.discovery.com]

"This is the conclusion that researchers from Stanford and Purdue University have arrived at, but the only explanation they have is even weirder than the phenomenon itself: The sun might be emitting a previously unknown particle that is meddling with the decay rates of matter. Or, at the very least, we are seeing some new physics.

Many fields of science depend on measuring constant decay rates. For example, to accurately date ancient artifacts, archaeologists measure the quantity of carbon-14 found inside organic samples at dig sites. This is a technique known as carbon dating.
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Re: 500,000 year old spear tip
Certainly all stone-age archeology involves guess-work. When it's published by more than one professor from more than one large university, we can usually say their guesses are gonna be better than the guy on the street.

The Paleolithic, or Old-Stone-Age extends from the earliest known use of stone tools, probably by Hominins such as Australopithecines, 2.6 million years ago, to the end of the Pleistocene around 10,000 BP--at the end of the last ice age. The Meso-lithic and Neolithic ages showed gradual changes in use of stone tools.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: MuzzleBreak


Just an extinct ape

[link to creation.com]

Certainly did not live 2.6 million years ago, just because wiki "said so". At given erosion rates it along with the entire continent would be washed away.
 Quoting: - 27824029


Sources please.
 Quoting: 7even


Let me guess what you going to say about Helium diffusionand what threat it poses to academia idealogs.
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