a License soon to be required with limits on SMOKING? WTH? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19879137 United States 11/16/2012 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (sigh) DC is under direct congressional rule, its juts its expanded ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26912620 by you signing things ... 'o' thinks he can dictate everything by executive order and not one limp dick on the Hill has stood up and told him to stop. Got news for you. You are not a member of the executive branch nor do you work for the corporatation of The United States, so you are not LIABLE for adhereing to these dictates. But the cops don't understand that so you better be prepared if you choose to disobey Herr obama. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27864553 United States 11/16/2012 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have to pay right at $380 a year for a state license to use weed. I feel your pain. They use the medical patients as a cash cow for the state. Don´t surrender. There are many reasons why smoking (pure) tobacco is beneficial despite what you have been taught. Quoting: Rey Rogers [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] "Conclusions. In this relatively small study of patients with active Crohn's colitis, 6 mg nicotine enemas appeared to be of clinical benefit in most patients. They were well tolerated and safe." |
Phoenix Rising User ID: 23094175 United States 11/16/2012 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jumpin Jack |
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Ralph--a house dog User ID: 25802009 United States 11/16/2012 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So tobacco will be made the new weed and the illegal drug industry will again prosper.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2134890 This will offer new illegal opportunities to pick up extra cash. Those who won't use their cigarette allotment will go buy the smokes and resell them, like some do with their EBT food cards. "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas HIS NAME IS SETH RICH [link to biblicalselfdefense.com] [link to forum.1111ers.blog] Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein -'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose. You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13158115 United States 11/16/2012 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, I know smoking is bad, but it's my choice to do it. I don't want anyone telling me how many cigs I can buy!! Quoting: Kristina Amen Sister! Well, the flip side of that is, when you ask other people to pay your medical insurance then you open the door for them to tell you how to live. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27862301 United States 11/16/2012 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you really think they would stop with putting aborted fetal cell tissue in our coffee creamer and soups for "flavor enhancers"? "Soylent Green" wasn't a movie...it was a WARNING! [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27862301 United States 11/16/2012 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just going to throw this out there, crazy as it sounds. Years ago when I first started listening to SQ's radio program, he made a bold assertion about why the government seems SO intent on getting people to quit smoking! After all, this is the same government that wants to ban raw milk, home gardens, vitamins...you know, anything with healthy benefits. So why are they SO concerned for your health when it comes to smoking despite their lack of concern in EVERY OTHER area? Here was the bold assertion...Smokers don't TASTE good! Should I repeat that? Did I stutter?...SMOKERS DON'T TASTE GOOD! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27862301 Did you really think they would stop with putting aborted fetal cell tissue in our coffee creamer and soups for "flavor enhancers"? "Soylent Green" wasn't a movie...it was a WARNING! [link to www.youtube.com] oops~ embed fail :P |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23602194 United States 11/16/2012 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EXCELLENT! The more smokers we take off the street, the more 2nd hand smoke we can prevent(which is scientifically proven to affect babies, children, and anyone else.) Don't these people understand that smoking ciggarettes kill you.... SLOWLY? It boggles my mind how individuals continue to smoking while realizing that they are slowly developing lung cancer, throat cancer, mouth cancer, you name it. It's a wretched habit. But I guess that's what addiction is.... Hopefully something like this will save lives- as it is it's intent. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24279842 Canada 11/16/2012 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While making smokers get a license is clearly lunacy, I believe that smoking should no longer be permitted in public places or in shared environments, like apartment buildings. Being forced to breathe second-hand smoke laden with pesticide, fungicide and herbicide residues (along with all of the other chemicals in the cancer sticks) should be outlawed. In case you smokers don't know it, the ingredients have become exponentially more toxic just over the past few years, and people who walk to get around or live in apartment buildings generally have no choice but to breathe in the poison smoke. It's not right, and frankly it makes me and many people I know sick to our stomach. Smokers should only be permitted to smoke in a house or on private property (if it's allowed). No to smoker's license; yes to banning smoking in public. |
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CtYankee User ID: 10645599 United States 11/16/2012 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should all consider growing your own, dry it, and smoke it up. Never darken the door of a store for your smoke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27864482 It's not that hard to grow, but the drying part isn't that easy. That once was said about curing weed....many videos have made it easy. Tobacco without all the crap (ie plutonium and other chems) will not kill you!!! Lung cancer from tobacco comes mostly from the fallout still left on the tobacco farms from the 40's nuke tests!! Don't believe me...check it out yourself CtYankee "If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried." -anonymous -Spouting a fountain of nonsense since 1972- Never met anyone important enough to lie to..... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19054218 United States 11/16/2012 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is it someone can go through all the time and labor to earn a doctorate yet this same person can't grasp the simple concept of personal liberty? Quoting: IRQ_1 Personal liberty can have communal or social consequences, often good, sometimes bad. If smokers want to bear the full price of their healthcare, then they should be allowed to smoke as much as they want. But smoking and relying on someone else to foot the bill for their emphysema, obstructive heart failure, cancer of the throat, tongue, esophagus or lungs is not an illustration of the concept of personal liberty (which obligates one to bear personal RESPONSIBILITY). Repeat: liberty and responsibility must be practiced together, otherwise you get, well, what you have in this country today. Let me tell you the story of my parents. Both smoked, both died from the effects of smoking. Over the last two years of their lives, since my father was a retired air force non-commissioned officer, their medical bills of $1.5 million were paid entirely by the federal government. There are millions more like them. Hard, heavy, take-no-prisoners smokers. And they will all end up in the same place. Hospital, grave. They will all cost us hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars each. And we know that they will avail themselves of whatever care they can, and that they will be provided that care one way or another. Now, since smoking is addictive, we cannot count on these people to necessarily act responsibly; after all, they are drug addicts. So if we KNOW that most of them are going to cost enormous sums of money to die; and if we know that as addicts they cannot be relied upon to act rationally or responsibly; how can we then not take SOME action to unburden society of the tremendous costs associated with their irresponsible exercise of their personal liberty? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 536288 United States 11/16/2012 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow...require a license?? Hmmmm just like the National Firearms act in 1934 where they imposed a statutory excise tax - but never sold any tax tickets - which in turn means that possessing such item as a "Tommy Gun" is illegal without the tax ticket... Same with Marijuana later in History..... Bogus bullshit by our gov't...should not impose a gov't choice onto its populus - I do not smoke but I believe that no rights whether I smoke or not on both sides on the issue should be just as important - NOT JUST THE NON-SMOKERS. Fair is Fair...Next what would it be LIQUOR...Toilet Paper....Water...Vitamins...Stuffed Animals Please Stand up for your rights Please do not wait till they step on something that you enjoy...LIKE JUST LIVING HOW YOU WANT |
CtYankee User ID: 10645599 United States 11/16/2012 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe start here....you may want to grow your own even without any extra tax.... [link to www.sciencedaily.com] CtYankee "If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried." -anonymous -Spouting a fountain of nonsense since 1972- Never met anyone important enough to lie to..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27824363 United Kingdom 11/16/2012 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EXCELLENT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23602194 The more smokers we take off the street, the more 2nd hand smoke we can prevent(which is scientifically proven to affect babies, children, and anyone else.) Don't these people understand that smoking ciggarettes kill you.... SLOWLY? It boggles my mind how individuals continue to smoking while realizing that they are slowly developing lung cancer, throat cancer, mouth cancer, you name it. It's a wretched habit. But I guess that's what addiction is.... Hopefully something like this will save lives- as it is it's intent. My addiction is freedom....What the fuck is yours! |
Abi ~ User ID: 25045778 United States 11/16/2012 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the fuck. How about limit the amount of fat ass burgers, those fat fucks can eat? How about that? This is just pointless. More rules, more laws more rules on top of new laws. This country is fucking retarded. Quoting: Se7en actually there was a thread about that a while back..they were not making it mandatory, but were strongly suggesting NO MEAT MONDAYS...;( soon, it will be everything. The mark of the beast...smartcards...must have to buy or sell...something along those lines... ETA>> They start with stuff that is for YOUR OWN GOOD....things that many will go for...all in the name of safety and the benefit of all....next, it will be things that affect everyone, but, by that time, it will be too late... Last Edited by Abi ~ on 11/16/2012 08:52 AM You accept the love you think you deserve~~~ Love cannot live where there is no trust~~~ Truth has no temperature~~~ Love like it's never gonna hurt~~~ Have no regrets~~~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23794435 United States 11/16/2012 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just going to throw this out there, crazy as it sounds. Years ago when I first started listening to SQ's radio program, he made a bold assertion about why the government seems SO intent on getting people to quit smoking! After all, this is the same government that wants to ban raw milk, home gardens, vitamins...you know, anything with healthy benefits. So why are they SO concerned for your health when it comes to smoking despite their lack of concern in EVERY OTHER area? Here was the bold assertion...Smokers don't TASTE good! Should I repeat that? Did I stutter?...SMOKERS DON'T TASTE GOOD! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27862301 Did you really think they would stop with putting aborted fetal cell tissue in our coffee creamer and soups for "flavor enhancers"? "Soylent Green" wasn't a movie...it was a WARNING! [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] Sorry...I'm more paranoid than most, but this one just struck me as being a little 'out there'. Love that movie, BTW. :) |
GrizzlyBear User ID: 24924267 United States 11/16/2012 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at it this way. What a great opportunity for non-smokers. Buy up your quota and then re-sell at for a bit more. Really, what I see here is a way for smokers under Obamacare to be targeted and denied services or charged more based on how much they smoke. Rule#4 Double Tap. |
my2centsworth User ID: 342233 Canada 11/16/2012 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's ok to abort babies, it's ok to smoke weed, it's ok to tax us to death or steal our monies, but THIS is coming??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14091728 Make me gag! [link to washington.cbslocal.com] You have got to be kidding me! They can spread bacteria throughout the Gulf area, they can have "accidental nuclear leaks" going into our atmosphere, they can chemically harm cancer patients, they can spread chemicals from on high, they can poison our food, but god forbid we light up a cigarette… Cuz it’s the cigarettes that cause all the cancers… Ya Right! That just goes WAY too far. They can kiss my petuti if they think I'll meekly go along with this shit! Cuz I won't!! I'll become one of "the criminal element" if they push this on the population... enough is enough... and I've had my fill of pushing the smokers around so that TPTB can continue to poison the population while blaming the smokers. If they push this, that amounts to a declaration of war for me. I’ll be baring my teeth and fighting back. |
Chrit User ID: 27088294 United States 11/16/2012 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Black market cigarettes are a 50 billion dollar a year industry and the number 10 largest black market item in the world. Looks like the government wants to increase the black market trade because that exactly what this would do. I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |