a License soon to be required with limits on SMOKING? WTH?

Well, considering all the taxes which are paid on cigarettes, those of us who still smoke should be hailed as HEROES instead of pariahs. Cigarette taxes support half the cockamamie ideas these ding-dongs come up with. Don't believe it? In the mid-60's, a pack of cigs FROM A MACHINE cost a quarter. Yup, 25 cents, and it came with a pack of matches under the wrapper. Cartons were $2.00 (or less if they were "on sale". When is the last time that you saw cigarettes "on sale"?). Yesterday I paid $51.00 for a carton of cigs. From $2 to $51? Even inflation doesn't cover THAT much of a jump!!

"...for a plant that anyone in the CONUS can grow for free in their own back yard --- but are subject to property seizure and extended time in a For Profit Prison System

can't leave that part out.

Fuck ya, good I hope this happens and I hope there is a limit to every card, and i hope every card costs 1000$...

I use to be a smoker for 15 years and well this is awsome, keep that shit away from the kids, and you fucks that still do smoke know and wish you could stop.. But since you all have zero will power you cant stop..

Yes i smoked for 15 years and was like i love smoking, but i really hated it. Waking up in the morning with terrible breath, was hard to breath sometimes.. Having to shit like a mad man in the mornings after taking 2 drags...

Get this done with..

i think it's really more of a principle kind of thing...

Next it's you can only have 12 oreo cookies.


etc....

but yeah 50 sounds like a punishment....i used to smoke but quit 18 months ago... I was at 1 pack...20 cigs/day

glad THAT'S over with.

great, let's all join on the self righteous bandwagon to pass laws micromanaging other people's behavior

Using that logic, I say let's have licenses for greasy food and extra large sugary soft drinks too, big boxes of cookies and chips should be rationed.

Hell, I don't eat any of that stuff, never did...why should I have to subsidize their heart attacks and clogged arteries?

I go into the supermarket and see some real fat orcas with their carts loaded with junk food...

Using your logic, I know they want to stop eating and wish they could, but they just can't. Therefore, let's introduce food regulations to force them to change

So how about if DC starts passing laws making it illegal to buy more than 2 boxes of mallomars or more than 1 triple cheeseburger a day, and fines for parents feeding that shit to their children

Those types of food are pure junk, we gotta protect people from overdosing on it...esp with national health care.

Why should I pay for someone else's food addiction, right?

Seriously, this is ALL a goddamned slippery slope...first cigarettes, next alcohol, next high fat and high sodium food until were all living on soylent green pills

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Good, so fucking tired of inhaling your fucking nasty habits into my lungs every-time one of you stink bags passes me. If I can't go apeshit on your ass because of the fucking law then the fucking law should do something about your nasty habit.

Money grabbing bastards! Some lobby group is proposing something similar over here in the UK.

There's way too many regulations as it is. We need a revolution.

Like there's any smokers in your moms basement.

When I was young and stupid, I used to smoke 4 and 5 packs of marlboro a day. What about people like that? 2 1/2 packs a day wouldn't have been enough for me.

It won't be long until 1/2 the population monitors the other half for smoking or lighting a match, or using a sharp knife , or putting too much salt on their food or eating too much. Probably limits on sex and masturbation to be in place.

This used to be a damn good country. WTF happened?

I do know that an underground market for cigarettes will soon form. Gangs, murder, extortion, smuggling and on and on.

I bought a few packets of different tobacco seeds last year. Here's a thread on the subject. Thread: Starting and Growing Tobacco from Seeds. New Hope Seed Company: Bringing back old tobacco varities from days gone by. No hybrids... No GMO's

LOL....the goal is to have us eating our soylet green pablum with sporks on paper plates, drinking small glasses of highly taxed water out of cups made from nerf-bat material, lest we accidentally break one and hurt ourselves

thats not the point , who wants to make extra trips to the store with the price of gas ? hint i buy like 10 lbs of tobacco and twenty sleeves of tubes and do this once every 8 months

Re: Marijuana Smoke not as damaging to lungs as cigarette smoke
"A common myth about smoking assert that the lungs of smokers become
brown or even black from years of accumulation of tars and goo. Not
true, according to Wray Kephart. Mr. Kephart presently works as an
engineer but he previously worked in a hospital, performing autopsies,
most of which were paid for by insurance companies, seeking to determine
whether the deceased committed suicide, or died from "natural causes".
Kephart tells me that he's done approximately 1560 autopsies, and he's
seen some strange things, such as the lungs of auto painters, which were
"effectively sealed with catalyzed lacquers"."
www.lcolby.com/b-chap7.htm



"A common idea, amongst smokers and non-smokers alike, is that smoking
causes tar deposits in the lungs. These tar deposits supposedly build
up and cause the lungs to turn black, and it is believed that these
tars lead to lung cancer,[1] and Cancer Research UK says of tar “a
sticky black residue made up of thousands of chemicals that stays
in the smoker’s lungs and causes cancer.” However, it does not take
much logical thought, and science, to realise this not only isn’t
true, but can’t be true. The idea that smoking causes black lungs
is no more than a myth, and the evidence for this is plentiful."
[link to www.smokescreens.org]

"Smoking and health have been the subject of argument since tobacco
was introduced to Europe in the sixteenth century. King James I was
a pioneer antismoker. In 1604 he declared that smoking was "a custome
lothsome to the eye, hatefull to the Nose, harmefull to the braine,
dangerous to the Lungs, and in the blacke stinking fume thereof,
neerest resembling the horrible Stigian smoke of the pit that is
bottomelesse." But like many a politician since, he decided that
taxing tobacco was a more sensible option than banning it.

"Edgar Cayce, a famous psychic healer, recommended smoking four to six
all-tobacco cigarettes each day for people who suffer from asthma. A
member of the alt.smokers discussion group, Charlotte Roneus, is an
asthma sufferer and she finds that smoking cigarettes soothes her lungs
and relieves the attacks. It has been known for centuries that smoking
is a remedy for a cough or bad throat, and whilst many smokers abstain
from smoking whilst they have an illness, those who do smoke with a sore
throat often notice it feels better."
[link to www.smokescreens.org]


You have all been lied to.

How bout this. F off for being a hypocrit piece of garbage like all of America has turned in too! I hate Americans so bad anymore. You all suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Freedom or death. I like to smoke, it's an early retirement from this evil f'n planet. Who the hell wants to live til 90 anyways?

Nah...he must be a chain smoker, that's all.

Been running this whole thing through my head all day. The cigarette company’s want this to happen so why. They are hoping to get more and more people on to Vaping, lot more profit in it than paying the farmer, cultivating the product adding all the fake ingredients then production and packaging. Instead they sell you a piece of plastic you reuse and mas produce the flavored vegetable glycerin and sell you tiny amounts at a very inflated price.


Now that would leave them with more tobacco to export that they can sell out fo country with a higher profit margin, realize what they sell in the states vs. what is sold in let’s say Africa is a very different product and much cheaper to produce for them also, there by raising profits on two separate levels for them.

When it comes to black market the big companies love it, remember the little town of Whiteclay Nebraska where the population is 10 people, yet the 4 liquor stores in town sell over $500million in beer every year because the Indian reservation that is just across the state border is officially dry. Nebraska State loves the tax revenue they are talking from the South Dakota reservation and the beer companies are making a killing delivering to one tiny town. You’ll create that same situation with cigarettes, people will be bringing them from places that do not enact these “laws” and marking up the prices, it will acutely drive sales. When you tell someone not to do something they tend to do it after all.

Don't get hit by the bus on your walk across the street. Would be a shame seeing some HEALTHY idiot die.

You're fucked up in the head. But you already know that, doncha?

give me LIBERTY or give me death...

This is an attempt to eventually regulate your bodies, which they think they own, totally.

You will need a license to eat the "healthy natural" (read GMO poison mutant) foods they choose for you.

You will need a license to breathe.

You will need a license to drink water.

You will need to be licensed to walk down the street that they choose to allow you to walk down.

You will be more licensed than your dogs if this floats on by. But by then you won't be allowed to have a dog, because you will be theirs.

You will need a license to live. Otherwise you will be taken away and euthanized.

People need to shake off the fluoride haze and brainwashing and wake the eff up. And it is possible to wake up.

No matter how "bad" you've been made to think smoking is for you, it's nowhere as near as bad as submitting to total control by the fascist state.

Don't worry, my friend. Once they completely trash the smokers, they'll be coming after the fat ass wimpy double burger and milk shake crowd. Then after that, the 20 ounce soda crowd. Oh, wait...Mayor Bloomersberg is already developing cutting technology on this front in NYC. Just don't fuck with my Dos Equis Lager...or else it's or else.

totally fucking THIS^^^

smoke this mofos

Thank you! I have been rolling my own cigs for about 2 years now, I dont feel bad now when I smoke, like I used to, I have said all along it is the chemicals they put in them that are dangerous, NOT the tobacco.

This whole thing is sdesigned for several things:

1-When all the "uselss eaters" are getting rounded up for camps, smokers (able to find because of the "smart card" will eb the first to go in them, right after the crippled and mentally handicapped.

2-As if the taxes we pay on the damn things arent already enough, this is jsut to get even MORE money from smokers.

3-NY already has this on their cokes, etc remember??? Even without a "smart card". SO first they came for the cigs , but I didnt say anything because I dont smoke, You know the drill. Everybody better care about this.

good I'm sick of my asshole Russian neighbours smoking four hours and making me breathe in all that toxic shit. I hope they get lung cancer

great theory, actually

Years ago my older sister worked in marketing for Phillip Morris...this was around 1990. I remember her saying the CEO was shitting himself over the mere prospect of selling cigarettes in China...and China wasn't even officially "open" to multinationals yet, but they could see what was coming

They saw a country where if they got even 1/10th the population, it would be worth 5x the US market for cigarettes, without all the hassles and regulations

They make money coming and going...and btw, that CEO was a big supporter of Bill Clinton and the democrats, so as far as I can see, the party isn't above taking money from those evil manufacturers of cancer sticks...

it's never the corps who get punished, just the citizens

I don't smoke, but if I had to support a nicotine habit, I would sure give my business to to the cigarettes sold on native reservations...screw the middlemen and tax vultures

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i tell ya, man... it's just getting cooler and cooler to be a goddamn outlaw these days. eventually, we'll all be outlaws simply by breathing. but then there will be some pussy ass motherfuckers who will hold their breath because the government didn't give them permission to breathe.

^^ nice link

^ YES. Like most info given out to the masses. I do think however that all the poison additives in commercial cigs just adds to the toxic crap all of humanity is increasingly exposed to. Pure rolled tobacco or a brand like American Spirit are solid choices ^^