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FORTY STATES DESIRE TO SECEDE FROM THE UNION: TREASON OR ACT OF LIBERTY?

 
FAHIM A. KNIGHT-El
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FORTY STATES DESIRE TO SECEDE FROM THE UNION: TREASON OR ACT OF LIBERTY?
FORTY STATES DESIRE TO SECEDE FROM THE UNION: TREASON OR ACT OF LIBERTY?

By Fahim A. Knight-El

I am advocate of legal and peaceful dissent because our United States Constitution affords us that right and it would be hypocritical, if I did not acknowledge that these individuals and States who filed petitions to secede from the United States Government have the right to express dissent and present their grievances in a lawful manner. This is protected under the First Amendment Right of the United States Constitution and I do not think that they should feel any repression from the U.S. Government for seeking separation and sovereignty from the United States Government. This is how Washington State framed its secession petition: “Peacefully grant the State of Washington to peacefully withdraw from the United States and to form its own government. Under the auspices of the 9th and 10th Amendments of the Constitution of the United States of America the Citizens of the State of Washington take this grave action in an attempt to wrest sovereignty back unto itself so as to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and to our posterity”.



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People who understand the constitution and the meaning of freedom consider it an act of liberty...people who only understand rhetoric, propaganda, and mindless flag waving patriotism consider it an act of treason.
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Do they still use federal reserve notes ?


are they registered to vote ?


use a social security number ?



then they haven' left, even if their state does ... they remain federal employees ....
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500,000....out of 350,000,000. Lol. The petitions are a joke, to keep angry white people content and satisfied that they can still do something about Obama. Now answer me this; you all believe obama stole the election correct? Then why and the hell do you think some signatures are going to stop him from doing what he wants????? E
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when the issue of muslims signing a petition to break from the state of union and delare muslim law shakera, u lost me, basically it would be unconsitutional our country was not founded on shakera....about it being angry white males...wrong again...racisim as a tool to let the govt become the elite and controlers of americans when they r suppose to work for us. lets talk about the class system in america..not the race...because the class system holdsmore people down. govt workers are on e dole and basically a form of welfare...americans pay a high fee to the elceted offials..the officals dont care what laws or regulations they make because they dont apply to them..
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In union with what, a State or principality?

(Union is wrong word. Use U.S.)

Is Washington DC a State, in the Union?
Follow this line of reasoning carefully, it is purposely made to be confounded.

Not a State, nor an outlying territory.
So what is it?

Did the US join the Union of States?

Where is the seat of the US, and how big is the area?

So, if a State, secedes from the US, it is still in the Union of Republic?

Change address without moving an inch.

This is made to clarify the waters of Union.

Union of States in the Republic.

The U.S. never joined. They have erected forts instead...etc.

The word UNION was given specifically to George Washington in the Forest.

We the People are in Union. Acting upon precepts.
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If you love freedom then it is absolutely an act of liberty.

The state was created and exists only to guarantee the liberty of the people; when it no longer does it is an act of tyranny and should be cast aside.

Never forget that the representatives of the state are public SERVANTS and serve at our sufferance, not the other way around.
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Liberty
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hey op.....next time you dont get a pass.

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Liberty.

I think that the way Russia went is possibly the same way the US will go, and if it does then good luck to them.
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People who understand the constitution and the meaning of freedom consider it an act of liberty...people who only understand rhetoric, propaganda, and mindless flag waving patriotism consider it an act of treason.
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The aura in the hotel gave the impression that they were gearing up to fight and reclaim the South for a second time.

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thousands from each state do not represent the whole populations of each state. i doubt very seriously if huge majorities of citizens of each state want to secede. quit being silly.
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No States will be seceding, none desire too, Protest in other ways.
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FORTY STATES DESIRE TO SECEDE FROM THE UNION: TREASON OR ACT OF LIBERTY?

By Fahim A. Knight-El

I am advocate of legal and peaceful dissent because our United States Constitution affords us that right and it would be hypocritical, if I did not acknowledge that these individuals and States who filed petitions to secede from the United States Government have the right to express dissent and present their grievances in a lawful manner. This is protected under the First Amendment Right of the United States Constitution and I do not think that they should feel any repression from the U.S. Government for seeking separation and sovereignty from the United States Government. This is how Washington State framed its secession petition: “Peacefully grant the State of Washington to peacefully withdraw from the United States and to form its own government. Under the auspices of the 9th and 10th Amendments of the Constitution of the United States of America the Citizens of the State of Washington take this grave action in an attempt to wrest sovereignty back unto itself so as to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and to our posterity”.



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A Muslim penned this article?
Occam's Razor, morans!
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500,000....out of 350,000,000. Lol. The petitions are a joke, to keep angry white people content and satisfied that they can still do something about Obama. Now answer me this; you all believe obama stole the election correct? Then why and the hell do you think some signatures are going to stop him from doing what he wants????? E
Your efforts are futile.
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Voting fraud has been happening for decades. It would be strange if it did not happen this time around. Also, the correct phrase is "why IN the hell." Clearly, someone as blind and idiotic as you are needs to go back to second grade. They probably passed you only because you are black. I had to work hard for my grades and I'm glad I did.

Obama is a war criminal and anti-American just like Bush was. It doesn't matter if he's black. In fact, that is why we can't prosecute him. You can't fire a black guy without getting sued or punished in some way even if they are clearly unfit for the job. I bet you only support Obama because he's black. Racist.
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It's all about freedom and liberty
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500,000....out of 350,000,000. Lol. The petitions are a joke, to keep angry white people content and satisfied that they can still do something about Obama. Now answer me this; you all believe obama stole the election correct? Then why and the hell do you think some signatures are going to stop him from doing what he wants????? E
Your efforts are futile.
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OK, you black race baiter. Keep on thinking it's only "angry white people".

It's everyone who is smart and informed.

Not the fault of the informed if 99% of the black population in this nation is contributing to the communist downfall of the United States due to their compliance of the continued pillaging and raping of our tax paying dollars to support an entire generation of deadbeat, single-parent, uneducated, wellfare foodstamp state.

Don't for a second argue otherwise. The vast majority of those receiving gov't handouts are blacks.

VAST majority.

The blacks in this nation face a tougher challenge, as they had the intelligence bred out of them (not much to begin with considering their heritage consisted of nomadic tribes when the rest of the world has bustling cities) through generations of slavery.

Blacks in the United States are just genetically shorthanded compared to other blacks around the world.

That's ok and everything, but it's fucking things up for us now because their unintelligence is spurring worse problems in our country.
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They used to tell us how bad the USSR was. Even Ronald Reagan called it the "Evil Empire" but yet when it broke up, there was no one killed or slaughtered.

Try to break up the U.S. and they will send Predator Drones and bomb you and your children to bits and not lose one second of sleep over it because they have no souls.

So, who is the real evil empire?

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500,000....out of 350,000,000. Lol. The petitions are a joke, to keep angry white people content and satisfied that they can still do something about Obama. Now answer me this; you all believe obama stole the election correct? Then why and the hell do you think some signatures are going to stop him from doing what he wants????? E
Your efforts are futile.
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Shut up, and bend over and lube your ass after you take Obamas cock out of your mouth.
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Quote: "Try to break up the U.S. and they will send Predator Drones and bomb you and your children to bits and not lose one second of sleep over it because they have no souls."

Fear Tactics

No one can break up a Republic.

Though you are suggesting that is what is being attempted, interesting.

A Constitutional correction is not a tyrannous effort to undermine, maybe an effort to assist is in mind.

There is more in play, than is suggested.
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Give me a choice on chemtrails or give me a new government.
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Act of Liberty. The Nazi are controlling the US now.
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Give

If it was given, could it beholden.

Or stolen, for lack thereof.
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No States will be seceding, none desire too, Protest in other ways.
FFS!
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go watch Mike Adams latest video on utube and you'll see why something huge is in the works. And after it happens we may see some secession. I can't link to it cause it's on bullhorns chanel. Go watch it....
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its impossible for a state to secede...logically.

this is why:

a state is only a state because the federal government, the union, gives it existence.

secession is equal to destroying the State that secedes.

who has the right to destroy a state?

answer: the federal government---or something like that.

either way. you are all immigrants and don't have a right to anything in this land, ultimately. in a manner of speaking...you don't really exist to the extent that you create or destroy anything.

i'd suggest stop listening to muslims and europeans...they'll just get you in a bad place.
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Those 40 states can secede as soon as they pay their fair share of the deficit!
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500,000....out of 350,000,000. Lol. The petitions are a joke, to keep angry white people content and satisfied that they can still do something about Obama. Now answer me this; you all believe obama stole the election correct? Then why and the hell do you think some signatures are going to stop him from doing what he wants????? E
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What is Dejure?
What is Defacto?

California state or State of California?

Your name in CAPS is your person,
God is no repecter of persons.

There is a Dejure state in the Republic as One of several in the Union.

Remember the 13 Colonies?

Ben Franklins statements, the vision of George Washington in the forest?

The Republic is Dejure.

The pledge of Allegiance and what the flag stands for.

The United States did not create the states in the Union.

Facts are facts.
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we all know what rats do when the ship sinks.
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mindless flag waving patriotism consider it an act of treason.
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There are no mindless flag waving patriots.

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