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U.S General says he will NOT obey Obama's orders to withdraw troops from Afghanistan

 
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“It’s a question of confidence in the Afghan people that we will remain, confidence in the Afghanistan national security forces that we will remain,” confidence in the “capitals that we will remain,” and confidence among “regional actors that we will remain,” Dunford said. Constructing that narrative, in his view, is a hedge against the Taliban waiting the U.S. out and U.S. allies and adversaries alike preparing for the fall of the Washington-backed Afghan government.
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General: We’re Staying in Afghanistan, No Matter What Obama Said


Remember how President Obama said on the campaign trail that he would “responsibly end the war” in Afghanistan in 2014? Or when Vice President Biden said the president’s plan was “to end the war in 2014?” The general they want to lead that war is singing a much different tune.
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Can he do that?

I guess there's no way of forcing him...
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The US ain't leaving Afghanistan till at least 2024...
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LOL his ass can stay there but I guarantee the equipment is coming home.
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US Begins Talks to Extend Troop Presence in Afghanistan Beyond 2014

Reports say Washington is vying for an agreement with Kabul that would keep tens of thousands of troops there until 2024
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LOL his ass can stay there but I guarantee the equipment is coming home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15292827


YEAH SURE.

The thread headline is BS.

The general ain't saying he won't obey Obama's order. He's saying Obama is a lying SOB and the US ain't leaving Afghanistan.
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The POTUS is Commander in Chief. No the general cant do it. Somebody told him its ok to put it simply.
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General: We’re Staying in Afghanistan, No Matter What Obama Said


Remember how President Obama said on the campaign trail that he would “responsibly end the war” in Afghanistan in 2014? Or when Vice President Biden said the president’s plan was “to end the war in 2014?” The general they want to lead that war is singing a much different tune.
 Quoting: The Tauremini


I am beginning to wonder if all these scandals w/in the Obama admin. concerning Generals could possibly be a take down of Generals like this one whom wish to continue U.S. genocide and imperialism.

Perhaps, and this is a big perhaps, Obama may start to be a reformer that has long been needed in his second term. So much is on the line now and it is way too soon to tell but certain things he is and is not doing seem to be somewhat positive to me. The main thing is distancing himself from Israel and not going to war with Iran yet. ONLY TIME WILL TELL, but let us all keep our fingers crossed.
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LOL his ass can stay there but I guarantee the equipment is coming home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15292827


Not so with congressional support...they hold the money bags and the right to declare war..This says to me there is a real Washington Power Play in the making.
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Remember how President Obama said on the campaign trail that he would “responsibly end the war” in Afghanistan in 2014? Or when Vice President Biden said the president’s plan was “to end the war in 2014?” The general they want to lead that war is singing a much different tune.
 Quoting: The Tauremini


I am beginning to wonder if all these scandals w/in the Obama admin. concerning Generals could possibly be a take down of Generals like this one whom wish to continue U.S. genocide and imperialism.

Perhaps, and this is a big perhaps, Obama may start to be a reformer that has long been needed in his second term. So much is on the line now and it is way too soon to tell but certain things he is and is not doing seem to be somewhat positive to me. The main thing is distancing himself from Israel and not going to war with Iran yet. ONLY TIME WILL TELL, but let us all keep our fingers crossed.
 Quoting: grefey


Holy shit you Obama lovers are blind
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General: We’re Staying in Afghanistan, No Matter What Obama Said


Remember how President Obama said on the campaign trail that he would “responsibly end the war” in Afghanistan in 2014? Or when Vice President Biden said the president’s plan was “to end the war in 2014?” The general they want to lead that war is singing a much different tune.
 Quoting: The Tauremini


I am beginning to wonder if all these scandals w/in the Obama admin. concerning Generals could possibly be a take down of Generals like this one whom wish to continue U.S. genocide and imperialism.

Perhaps, and this is a big perhaps, Obama may start to be a reformer that has long been needed in his second term. So much is on the line now and it is way too soon to tell but certain things he is and is not doing seem to be somewhat positive to me. The main thing is distancing himself from Israel and not going to war with Iran yet. ONLY TIME WILL TELL, but let us all keep our fingers crossed.
 Quoting: grefey


With Thinking like that, I assuem you've already picked out the size and color for you're wifes burka? One of those light blue ones or All black with matching gloves?
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The government we have know is gone!! New times is chaotic change!!
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There will never be another national budget made in Congress. The whole kaboodle is on auto pilot.... until doom overtakes them.

/// the former govt of the US announced today it was ready to present its new budget for 2024.

Who's on first, what's on second .... I don't know is on third. Game over.
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General: We’re Staying in Afghanistan, No Matter What Obama Said


Remember how President Obama said on the campaign trail that he would “responsibly end the war” in Afghanistan in 2014? Or when Vice President Biden said the president’s plan was “to end the war in 2014?” The general they want to lead that war is singing a much different tune.
 Quoting: The Tauremini


Get ready for another firing of a general.
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This is my take on it all,

The middle east fighting back big time and in a big way.

Israel is ready for war.

If America withdraws from Afghanistan, then things will go right off the scale.

You will have a war spreading through Pakistan and India and that's something you don't want given current conditions.

In other words, they're proper fucked.

Debt and depression in the economy,

A military that is war weary,

People back home are sick of war,

The middle east is going to lose their shit for real,

Israel wants war,

.......moral of the story is, dont get involved in other countries conflicts because you will get fucked up and you will lose your own country in the process.

I hope you Americans understand just how you fucked up in that part of the region in particular.

And if you think things couldnt get any worse, think about this:

Anything from the middle east to the economy collapsing to social unrest will set off a series of triggers and you only have a certain amount of time to prepare individually and more importantly you have some time to come to your senses.

The clock is still ticking but for how long?
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General: We’re Staying in Afghanistan, No Matter What Obama Said


Remember how President Obama said on the campaign trail that he would “responsibly end the war” in Afghanistan in 2014? Or when Vice President Biden said the president’s plan was “to end the war in 2014?” The general they want to lead that war is singing a much different tune.
 Quoting: The Tauremini


I am beginning to wonder if all these scandals w/in the Obama admin. concerning Generals could possibly be a take down of Generals like this one whom wish to continue U.S. genocide and imperialism.

Perhaps, and this is a big perhaps, Obama may start to be a reformer that has long been needed in his second term. So much is on the line now and it is way too soon to tell but certain things he is and is not doing seem to be somewhat positive to me. The main thing is distancing himself from Israel and not going to war with Iran yet. ONLY TIME WILL TELL, but let us all keep our fingers crossed.
 Quoting: grefey


Lib..........
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General: We’re Staying in Afghanistan, No Matter What Obama Said


Remember how President Obama said on the campaign trail that he would “responsibly end the war” in Afghanistan in 2014? Or when Vice President Biden said the president’s plan was “to end the war in 2014?” The general they want to lead that war is singing a much different tune.
 Quoting: The Tauremini


I am beginning to wonder if all these scandals w/in the Obama admin. concerning Generals could possibly be a take down of Generals like this one whom wish to continue U.S. genocide and imperialism.

Perhaps, and this is a big perhaps, Obama may start to be a reformer that has long been needed in his second term. So much is on the line now and it is way too soon to tell but certain things he is and is not doinBg seem to be somewhat positive to me. The main thing is distancing himself from Israel and not going to war with Iran yet. ONLY TIME WILL TELL, but let us all keep our fingers crossed.
 Quoting: grefey


Holy shit you Obama lovers are blind
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20078428


The blind lead the blind and they all end up in the ditch!!
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If true, the General will be out on his ass within 48hrs.
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General: We’re Staying in Afghanistan, No Matter What Obama Said


Remember how President Obama said on the campaign trail that he would “responsibly end the war” in Afghanistan in 2014? Or when Vice President Biden said the president’s plan was “to end the war in 2014?” The general they want to lead that war is singing a much different tune.
 Quoting: The Tauremini


I am beginning to wonder if all these scandals w/in the Obama admin. concerning Generals could possibly be a take down of Generals like this one whom wish to continue U.S. genocide and imperialism.

Perhaps, and this is a big perhaps, Obama may start to be a reformer that has long been needed in his second term. So much is on the line now and it is way too soon to tell but certain things he is and is not doing seem to be somewhat positive to me. The main thing is distancing himself from Israel and not going to war with Iran yet. ONLY TIME WILL TELL, but let us all keep our fingers crossed.
 Quoting: grefey


No reformation in the world is going to change the muslim idea of not muslim , no head. If Israel goes its only a matter of time,infiltration will be unstopable. I abhore war,but when you're facing a lunatic the only other thing is to let them kill you and hope for a better next life
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Blah, blah, blah. You can't trust drug dealers and pedophiles. Nothing has changed in Afghan. since the Reagan era. There is no foundation for peace in a country that is morally bankrupt. We should just pull out and let India whoop on Pakistan for awhile.
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LOL his ass can stay there but I guarantee the equipment is coming home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15292827


You are an idiot.

You can't guarantee anything.
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Can he do that?

I guess there's no way of forcing him...
 Quoting: The Tauremini


No he can't. They will just send another commander to relieve him of duty if they have to. Refusing to obey an unconstitutional order is one thing. That is a part of his oath of service. Refusing to leave a foreign country we should have left nearly a decade ago violates his oath because an order to leave a foreign field would not violate the constitution.
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Sounds like Obama lied again. So what else is new.

Anyone who believed his campaign promises this time was stupid. He broke all the campaign promises from 2008, he's still Obama ... so he'll break them this time too.
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Did you even read the article?? He didn't say he would disobey, he said that Obama said one thing to the voters and very different thing to staffers, etc.


READ ITS EASY!!!!
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Sounds like Obama lied again. So what else is new.

Anyone who believed his campaign promises this time was stupid. He broke all the campaign promises from 2008, he's still Obama ... so he'll break them this time too.
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Oh, thank God, somebody else read it....
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General: We’re Staying in Afghanistan, No Matter What Obama Said


Remember how President Obama said on the campaign trail that he would “responsibly end the war” in Afghanistan in 2014? Or when Vice President Biden said the president’s plan was “to end the war in 2014?” The general they want to lead that war is singing a much different tune.
 Quoting: The Tauremini


I am beginning to wonder if all these scandals w/in the Obama admin. concerning Generals could possibly be a take down of Generals like this one whom wish to continue U.S. genocide and imperialism.

Perhaps, and this is a big perhaps, Obama may start to be a reformer that has long been needed in his second term. So much is on the line now and it is way too soon to tell but certain things he is and is not doing seem to be somewhat positive to me. The main thing is distancing himself from Israel and not going to war with Iran yet. ONLY TIME WILL TELL, but let us all keep our fingers crossed.
 Quoting: grefey


No reformation in the world is going to change the muslim idea of not muslim , no head. If Israel goes its only a matter of time,infiltration will be unstopable. I abhore war,but when you're facing a lunatic the only other thing is to let them kill you and hope for a better next life
 Quoting: shadasonic


Really... Are you suggesting that Israel defends the world from Muslims?? Really... Super Jews now??
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This is my take on it all,

The middle east fighting back big time and in a big way.

Israel is ready for war.

If America withdraws from Afghanistan, then things will go right off the scale.

You will have a war spreading through Pakistan and India and that's something you don't want given current conditions.

In other words, they're proper fucked.

Debt and depression in the economy,

A military that is war weary,

People back home are sick of war,

The middle east is going to lose their shit for real,

Israel wants war,

.......moral of the story is, dont get involved in other countries conflicts because you will get fucked up and you will lose your own country in the process.

I hope you Americans understand just how you fucked up in that part of the region in particular.

And if you think things couldnt get any worse, think about this:

Anything from the middle east to the economy collapsing to social unrest will set off a series of triggers and you only have a certain amount of time to prepare individually and more importantly you have some time to come to your senses.

The clock is still ticking but for how long?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27855699


I agree with you.
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General Kurtz ?
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Many morons don't really get that if we(US) left the middle east all together- all fighting and War would stop.

That's why they fight, for us to leave.

They could care less how we live, they don't know how we live anyway...

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