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Autism...Epidemic?

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/16/2012 04:13 PM
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genocide via vaccines. Doctors are mass murderers. The media, the gov are all in on it.
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idiot.
vaccines are given after birth.
autistics are in the most classic sense abnormal AT birth.
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wow

YOU are an idiot
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11/16/2012 04:16 PM
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genocide via vaccines. Doctors are mass murderers. The media, the gov are all in on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246336


idiot.
vaccines are given after birth.
autistics are in the most classic sense abnormal AT birth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


and another thing, vaccines have been used for over 60 years, and only in the past 200 has autism started to rise.
How do you imagine to account for a 40 year latent period that accounts for mostly wite debbils getting autism lately.
I will bet you that those too poor to have access to aspartame and drugs dont have the same rise in autism rates, and that it is, essentially associated with an affluent lifestyle which includes daily use of neurotoxins in diet and snack foods
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do you know how many vaccines they gave to infants for 60 years ago compared to how many they get now??

do you understand the correlation between more vaccines - more autism?
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11/16/2012 04:16 PM
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My son had ASD and now is recovered. It is multifaceted.

Mercury (either in mom or the shots)
plus
Immune Trigger (vaccines or virus/immune dysfunction)
plus
Genetic predisposition for handling toxins properly.

go to ageofautism or recoveringkids

parents are curing it.
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11/16/2012 04:28 PM
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My son had ASD and now is recovered. It is multifaceted.

Mercury (either in mom or the shots)
plus
Immune Trigger (vaccines or virus/immune dysfunction)
plus
Genetic predisposition for handling toxins properly.

go to ageofautism or recoveringkids

parents are curing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17522961


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Thank You.

God Bless.

never trust doctors or big pharma

never ever


about 20% of infants unable to handle mercury

they use mercury as a preservative

always ask for onedoses - no preservative

mercury sticks together in vaccinebottle -

if your infant get dose from nearly empty bottle =
higher dose of mercury!!!

All spectras of autism and related depends on how high dose of mercury infant got from vaccine
wooz
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11/16/2012 04:54 PM
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I think its pretty obvious what's going on around here.

So you're deliberately poisoning kids, so you'll keep the upper hand. Don't you realise, they don't actually give a shit about having the 'upper hand', do you think that they wake up in the morning, thinking, today I'm going to totally take ownership this world? Really?

Just where the hell are we. We don't want this world, we don't even like it here. We're pretty aware that we're merely sojourners.
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11/16/2012 05:03 PM
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1. There is no epidemic
2. It's about diagnosis criteria
3. It's about scientific knowledge
4. It's about public awareness (incl. Doctors)
5. It's been overdiagnosed lately
wooz
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11/16/2012 05:09 PM
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Yeah I know, its for our own good.

Shut up and obey. That's alright, what can we possibly do, we're a minority. Take what you want do what you want while you can.
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11/16/2012 05:10 PM
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It is an epidemic.

Vaccines are NOT the route cause. When there is just ONE child who has never been vaccinated, then it is not what causes it. I know two children who have not been vaccinated.

From my own experience with my son who has "aspergers", and the testing they have done in the genetics area, they are going to find that autism is genetically linked to the mother, through a mitochondrial disorder. Depending on the mitochondria affected and to what extent, will determine the severity of autism, plus the mothers genetic back ground.
 Quoting: PENG


The counter argument to this is: just as there are a wide variety of different mito diseases , so can there be a wide variety of enviromental challenges which can exacerbate an individual disease. One person could be affected by a vaccine, one by food poisoning, another by a staph infection. Pretty much anything that makes you run a fever is a problem, apparently

[link to www.mitoaction.org]

"•Mitochondrial disease is a chronic, genetic disorder that occurs when the mitochondria of the cell fails to produce enough energy for cell or organ function.
•The incidence about 1:3000-4000 individuals in the US. This is similar to the incidence of cystic fibrosis of caucasian births in the U.S.
•There are many forms of mitochondrial disease.
•Mitochondrial disease is inherited in a number of different ways
•Mitochondrial disease presents very differently from individual to individual.
•There may be one individual in a family or many individuals affected over a number of generations.


So, if you are at risk to start with, being sick can make you worse:


[link to blog.autismspeaks.org]

"Shoffner and his colleagues selected 28 children like this, with both mitochondrial respiratory chain disease and ASD. They found that 17 of these 28 children (17/28= 61%) had a history of a neurodegenerative episode that eventually grew into the features of ASD. These were called “autistic regressions”, although it should be noted that the features of ASD typically evolve and change over time after an inciting event4. They may start within 2 weeks of an event like infection, but they usually continue to evolve and change over weeks to months following the acute reaction4. In 12 children (12/17= 71%) the regressions began within 2 weeks of a fever greater than 101˚F. In 4 of the 12 (33%; or 4/28 = 14% of all the cases of ASD and mitochondrial disease), the fever occurred after routine vaccination. In 8 of the 12 (67%), the fever occurred after an infection or was of unknown origin."
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11/16/2012 06:37 PM

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I have personally seen and been touched by different levels of autism from very severe to very mild.

The question I have, or that I'm trying to figure out is why the symptoms of light to moderate autism gradually seem to dissapear as a child enters the 8 to 10 years old range. I have seen this on a couple of occasions.

Also, why are boys more prone to autism than girls?

There also seems to be alot of confusing though well meaning information regarding alternative medicine / supplementation for treating autism. This for me has cost me alot of money and frustration. What works? What doesn't work?
 Quoting: The Dudester


Bingo... Boys outnumber girls 5-1. Because it is genetic! Thru the mother. Trust me, I don't like saying that as I am a mother of a little boy on the spectrum. My two girls have no autism. I also had genetic tests done on him and his mitochondrial numbers were waaaay off. They are now finding that there seems to be a direct or relation between mitochondria and autism. I did not get tested as it was not covered, but in mito disorders (not sure If it is all of them) the gene is passed from mother to child. Not thru father. Yeah I suck.

You doubt me? Go get any autistic child tested. Genes are from birth....they do not change. You are born this way. No it is not brain damage. Then Down syndrome is also. Duh.

Now the question is, what happened to me? My family has no history of autism....BUT my sisters son ALSO has autism....aspergers. Her daughter does not.

Yes, he has low vitamin d and low carnitine. I believe when I was tested I was low in vitamin d also. Still am today.

So what is the "trigger"? Vaccines could be in some children, and other environmental factors certainly.

From mayo clinic....
Genetic problems. Several genes appear to be involved in autism. Some may make a child more susceptible to the disorder. Others affect brain development or the way that brain cells communicate. Still others may determine the severity of symptoms. Each problem in genes may account for a small number of cases, but taken together, the influence of genes is likely substantial. Some genetic problems seem to be inherited, while others happen spontaneously.
Environmental factors. Researchers are currently exploring whether such factors as viral infections, complications during pregnancy and air pollutants play a role in triggering autism.
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11/16/2012 06:58 PM
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I don't care what anyone says, I think the vaccines have something to do with it. I think the crap that's in processed foods also contributes to it. I'm 40 and when I was growing up, only a small handful of kids had autism. Now it's every other kid. I also think doctors are too eager to diagnose it because there are more drugs for it now and big pharma makes a lot of money off it. Also schools/teachers readily label autism and ADD/ADHD so they can justify all the school spending for "special needs" kids.
 Quoting: cowardlyMe 20395699


It's illegal for a school employee to diagnose a health condition - they are NOT doctors. While a student can be put on the SST process (strategies to help a student who is falling behind catch up with his peers) a child won't qualify for special education under Other Health Impaired (the category ADHD and autism fall under) unless a doctor has diagnosed the disorder AND states that the disorder is affecting the child's academics. ADHD and autism children might not qualify for special education if their disorder doesn't affect their academics nor the academics of other students (there are some high-functioning autism students who are sped students because such kids are prone to tantrums and they need the support of sped teachers to protect the other children).
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It's illegal for a school employee to diagnose a health condition - they are NOT doctors.
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Teachers walk in a gray area by suggesting diagnosis, and sometimes routing concerned parents to doctors who will rubber stamp disability forms

[link to www.cnn.com]

"Teachers and related school personnel have an important role in identifying learning and social challenges faced by students, including those with ADHD, says Clarke Ross, CEO of CHADD (Children and Adults with Attention Deficit / Hyperactivity Disorder). But teachers should never give a diagnosis for the purpose of medication use, or advise the use of medications, he said.

Alana Morales, of Thornton, Colorado, is one of those teachers who has brought up the subject of ADHD testing with many parents. She doesn't tell parents to medicate their kids, but brings up the subject of getting children tested because she thinks it's important for parents to know.

"You have to be so careful because, again, we are not doctors," she said. "But does that mean we don't recognize it? No.
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11/16/2012 08:28 PM

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I have personally seen and been touched by different levels of autism from very severe to very mild.

The question I have, or that I'm trying to figure out is why the symptoms of light to moderate autism gradually seem to dissapear as a child enters the 8 to 10 years old range. I have seen this on a couple of occasions.

Also, why are boys more prone to autism than girls?

There also seems to be alot of confusing though well meaning information regarding alternative medicine / supplementation for treating autism. This for me has cost me alot of money and frustration. What works? What doesn't work?
 Quoting: The Dudester


girls have two of the same chromosome, boys only have one of each, meaning if one gene is defective, there is no possible backup gene on the other chromosome
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


That's what it is. I had forgotten. Because the boys have one of each, the mothers gene pass it on to the boys. That is why boys are more affected than girls. I can't remember the specifics right now. And it is with certain mito disorders.

Last Edited by PENG on 11/16/2012 08:30 PM
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11/16/2012 08:33 PM

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I don't care what anyone says, I think the vaccines have something to do with it. I think the crap that's in processed foods also contributes to it. I'm 40 and when I was growing up, only a small handful of kids had autism. Now it's every other kid. I also think doctors are too eager to diagnose it because there are more drugs for it now and big pharma makes a lot of money off it. Also schools/teachers readily label autism and ADD/ADHD so they can justify all the school spending for "special needs" kids.
 Quoting: cowardlyMe 20395699


It's illegal for a school employee to diagnose a health condition - they are NOT doctors. While a student can be put on the SST process (strategies to help a student who is falling behind catch up with his peers) a child won't qualify for special education under Other Health Impaired (the category ADHD and autism fall under) unless a doctor has diagnosed the disorder AND states that the disorder is affecting the child's academics. ADHD and autism children might not qualify for special education if their disorder doesn't affect their academics nor the academics of other students (there are some high-functioning autism students who are sped students because such kids are prone to tantrums and they need the support of sped teachers to protect the other children).
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Actually the school system can diagnose aspergers/autism. My son was diagnosed thru the school system. We already knew he had it, but they did the Gillian test. It is under emotional behavioral testing. He then qualified for special education services.
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11/16/2012 08:36 PM
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Chernobyl? If radiation is a cause of the problem then the Fukushima incident will sky rocket these occurrences.
This will result in a docile, more impressionable society.
 Quoting: wooz 1330954


I guess we'll see on that.

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