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Peabody Coal Company cuts retirees pensions

 
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TY ^^^^^ Issue


IDK IF PEOPLE ARE EVEN AWARE OF HOW BAD IT IS GOING TO GET- THIS STUFF AFFECTS EVERYONE!

NO ENERGY, NO FOOD, NO PROFIT, NO CARS

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON OTHER THEN COLLAPSE?

AND IT'S 100% PLANNED

PEOPLE ARE FUCKING LAUGHING ABOUT THIS SHIT ON MY FB PAGE..NORMAL PEOPLE ARE LAUGHING ABOUT STOCKING UP OR THE PRICE ONE WILL GET FOR A TWINKIE ON EBAY- ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THEY WON'T BE LAUGHING WHEN THERE IS NOOOOOO FOOD AT THE SUPERMARKET AND THAT TWINKIE WOULD BE WORTH BILLIONS IN A POST APOCALYPTIC WORLD!


THE STUPIDITY OF SOME PEOPLE!
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Agree

Energy = life. It takes energy to farm, energy to keep herds alive, energy to carry food to stores

Energy works its way into every single thing we consume...transportation costs are the elephant in the room people want to ignore

The US had a chance to rely on its own huge resources of natural gas and coal gas to actually lower our transportation costs, half energy costs for manufacturers, to become the most competitive country in the G20

Instead, it voted for the European model, the California model. These assholes actually STILL come out in speeches and tell the rest of us that we should be more like economic basketcases of California and Europe

Holy Fuck, are they even watching this show?

My adopted home state Texas is once again engaged in war with the EPA, and I wish them success.

Maybe they won't win, but they sure as hell will push back and they won't go down without a fight

The EPA, which began as a cute fuzzy organization no one could disagree with, has over decades become a rogue agency which is doing insane shit like banning Primatene mist for asthmatics

The EPA Is Moving The Goalposts, Even After The Game Has Started

One of President Obama’s top agenda items was to pass cap-and-trade legislation intended to limit the amount of greenhouse gas emissions. Once it became clear the legislation had no chance of passing, the EPA decided to impose its own emissions-limiting agenda without the consent of Congress.

So the EPA adopted new goalpost-moving regulations—what Time magazine said “could be the most far-reaching environmental regulatory scheme in American history”—requiring power plants, refineries and factories to use cleaner fuels and adopt new technologies that reduce carbon emissions.


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Thank You again IssueX- your info cannot be shared enough! hf
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coal is a give and take- it gives us electricity for modern civilization, but is also a hazard to our health- we cannot and probably will not live w/o it until they release free energy- and i doubt that happens before many will die- from either the pollution of coal and other toxins or poverty..most likely both!
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The US is the Saudi Arabia of coal...we have, I believe, over 300 years worth of coal

What they are shutting down, I suspect, is not mined coal, but the enormous potential of coal gasification, which is considered a green fuel and pollutes on perhaps the same level as natural gas, maybe less

By gasifying coal, the thermal energy contained in the coal is transferred to the syngas stream while the CO2 created is easily captured and sequestered.

Coal gasification has taken place since the 1800's in both Europe and the United States. By applying heat and pressure in a controlled environment, a constant stream of syngas can be created. The clean syngas can be converted into many different end products such as methane, gasoline, diesel fuel or ammonia.

[link to www.lifepowerandfuels.com]

Through the process of coal gasification, which uses only the gas generated by the coal reserve and produces no particulate matter and eliminates strip mining, the US would have over 900 years of energy ...and thats from coal alone

The Coal gasification process triples the power of our reserves...and most are unaware of it

Furthermore, coal gas synthetics can even fuel airplanes, for 1/10th the cost of current fuels.

But that would interfere with their neat little story about peak oil and other narratives which further Agenda 21 and other globalist elitist BS

There is a Casper WY company working with an Australian firm to bring this fuel to market. Amazing stuff, check it out:

[link to www.casperjournal.com]

Bond said that while LINC’s Australian projects have proved themselves as safe and cost effective, the company’s Wyoming projects were moving considerably slower than he had hoped due to a regulatory bottleneck.

The cost of producing one barrel of jet fuel at Linc’s Queensland plant, Bond said, is US$30 per barrel.


A standard barrel of petroleum products is 42 US gallons. Jet fuel in Casper on May 11 was selling for $6.42 per gallon, or more than $269 per barrel, or a difference of more than $230 per barrel.

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Friend of mine retired some years ago from working half his life at a coal company in Ohio. Said he lost his pension and 'black lung' check he and his friends got too. I can imagine how this will affect tons of people and their families that work a very dangerous job for years! Anyway, he said after months of changing names from company to company- they finally got their checks cut. Mind you, i think coal has been unionized for years, and the retirees never picketed i believe. I see some reports are that there is some legal work going on to get their money, but others can post any info they find clarifying the situation.

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elections have results.....keep voting for obama....fools..
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This is SE Ohio, no one voted for that son of a bitch!cheers
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Amen brother. We sure didn't !
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Did Mr. Peabody's coal train haul it away?
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At least Peabody made John Prine rich!
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Did Mr. Peabody's coal train haul it away?
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At least Peabody made John Prine rich!
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You mean these guys?


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thank obama and his war on coal
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thank obama and his war on coal
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Are you stupid to BS flag this FACT?! Obama said the same during his first run 4 years ago! Your memory sucks!
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Mind you my friend is in his 70s and in terrible health- not some young punk who retired early!
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Corporations and Government know full well, how easy it is to get away with abusing the elderly and the poor. They deliberately single out the most vulnerable, helpless, and isolated citizens to ~exploit.

That's what's wrong with our whole economy: it's too discriminatory.
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thank obama and his war on coal
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Are you stupid to BS flag this FACT?! Obama said the same during his first run 4 years ago! Your memory sucks!
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Conservative media have claimed that the Obama administration is waging a "war" on "cheap," "clean" coal that will cause blackouts and massive layoffs. In fact, the Obama administration has simply implemented long overdue and legally required clean air regulations to protect public health without hurting electric reliability or employment, and much of the transition away from coal is due to the rise of cheaper, cleaner natural gas.



Most Major Clean Air Act Rules Began Under The Bush Administration. A Congressional Research Service report explained that many Obama-era pollution rules proposed to enforce the Clean Air Act and other statutes "began development under the Bush Administration":
Not all of these rules are Obama Administration initiatives. Many began development under the Bush Administration, including several that were promulgated under that Administration and subsequently were vacated or remanded to EPA by the courts. Within the Clean Air Act group, for example, most of the major rules, including the agency's boiler rules and two of the major rules affecting electric power plants (the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule and the MACT rule [Mercury and Air Toxics Standards rule that will require that utilities limit hazardous air emissions using the Maximum Available Control Technology (MACT)]) fit that description. Other EPA actions, such as reconsideration of the ozone air quality standard, have actually delayed for several years implementation of Bush Administration rules that would have strengthened existing standards. [Congressional Research Service, 8/8/12]



Conservative media have claimed that the Obama administration is waging a "war" on "cheap," "clean" coal that will cause blackouts and massive layoffs. In fact, the Obama administration has simply implemented long overdue and legally required clean air regulations to protect public health without hurting electric reliability or employment, and much of the transition away from coal is due to the rise of cheaper, cleaner natural gas.
Most Major Clean Air Act Rules Began Under The Bush Administration. A Congressional Research Service report explained that many Obama-era pollution rules proposed to enforce the Clean Air Act and other statutes "began development under the Bush Administration":
Not all of these rules are Obama Administration initiatives. Many began development under the Bush Administration, including several that were promulgated under that Administration and subsequently were vacated or remanded to EPA by the courts. Within the Clean Air Act group, for example, most of the major rules, including the agency's boiler rules and two of the major rules affecting electric power plants (the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule and the MACT rule [Mercury and Air Toxics Standards rule that will require that utilities limit hazardous air emissions using the Maximum Available Control Technology (MACT)]) fit that description. Other EPA actions, such as reconsideration of the ozone air quality standard, have actually delayed for several years implementation of Bush Administration rules that would have strengthened existing standards. [Congressional Research Service, 8/8/12]

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Thread: 18,000 workers just lost a job Hostess just called it they will shut down

It starts w/energy, food, and hmmm what else makes life great for Americans?

They're pushing the dominoes so carefully placed for 100 years- it's about destroying us anyway they can now!!

Starvation, poverty, corruption- blame the unions all you want, but the elites have had years to infiltrate them and MAKE them the bad guy!! You'll hate them until you can't find food and a job and you'll wonder why..blame the avg. worker(lazy or not) and then you become one- never blaming the rich people who planned it this way!
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Sure it is all Unions fault - they cost 2-3 times what an average worker makes and that cost goes in to making purchase prices higher.

OWN IT!!!
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thank obama and his war on coal
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Are you stupid to BS flag this FACT?! Obama said the same during his first run 4 years ago! Your memory sucks!
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Conservative media have claimed that the Obama administration is waging a "war" on "cheap," "clean" coal that will cause blackouts and massive layoffs. In fact, the Obama administration has simply implemented long overdue and legally required clean air regulations to protect public health without hurting electric reliability or employment, and much of the transition away from coal is due to the rise of cheaper, cleaner natural gas.



Most Major Clean Air Act Rules Began Under The Bush Administration. A Congressional Research Service report explained that many Obama-era pollution rules proposed to enforce the Clean Air Act and other statutes "began development under the Bush Administration":
Not all of these rules are Obama Administration initiatives. Many began development under the Bush Administration, including several that were promulgated under that Administration and subsequently were vacated or remanded to EPA by the courts. Within the Clean Air Act group, for example, most of the major rules, including the agency's boiler rules and two of the major rules affecting electric power plants (the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule and the MACT rule [Mercury and Air Toxics Standards rule that will require that utilities limit hazardous air emissions using the Maximum Available Control Technology (MACT)]) fit that description. Other EPA actions, such as reconsideration of the ozone air quality standard, have actually delayed for several years implementation of Bush Administration rules that would have strengthened existing standards. [Congressional Research Service, 8/8/12]



Conservative media have claimed that the Obama administration is waging a "war" on "cheap," "clean" coal that will cause blackouts and massive layoffs. In fact, the Obama administration has simply implemented long overdue and legally required clean air regulations to protect public health without hurting electric reliability or employment, and much of the transition away from coal is due to the rise of cheaper, cleaner natural gas.
Most Major Clean Air Act Rules Began Under The Bush Administration. A Congressional Research Service report explained that many Obama-era pollution rules proposed to enforce the Clean Air Act and other statutes "began development under the Bush Administration":
Not all of these rules are Obama Administration initiatives. Many began development under the Bush Administration, including several that were promulgated under that Administration and subsequently were vacated or remanded to EPA by the courts. Within the Clean Air Act group, for example, most of the major rules, including the agency's boiler rules and two of the major rules affecting electric power plants (the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule and the MACT rule [Mercury and Air Toxics Standards rule that will require that utilities limit hazardous air emissions using the Maximum Available Control Technology (MACT)]) fit that description. Other EPA actions, such as reconsideration of the ozone air quality standard, have actually delayed for several years implementation of Bush Administration rules that would have strengthened existing standards. [Congressional Research Service, 8/8/12]

[link to mediamatters.org]
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You are an idiot. nObama has put so many 'REGULATIONS' on coal that nobody can operate a coal plant anymore and remain profitable.

Bush wanted cleaner EMISSIONS - not to put them out of business like nObama.

It is fools like you who dring the nObama kool aid that blame anyne but the perp themselves. WAKE UP ALREADY!!

And if not - the power of economics will soon bite you in the butt along with those of us who tried to stop it.

LIBS - YOU OWN IT!!
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Mind you my friend is in his 70s and in terrible health- not some young punk who retired early!
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This will become commonplace in America.

The bankers have some very bad times in store for us.

They're raping our country of it's wealth by any and every way possible.
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are these all those oblablams banker friends and their lawyers?
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How much do you want to bet the CEO got a HUGE bonus??

Fuckers.

Storm the Bastille!!

Hang them all!!

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Are you stupid to BS flag this FACT?! Obama said the same during his first run 4 years ago! Your memory sucks!
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Conservative media have claimed that the Obama administration is waging a "war" on "cheap," "clean" coal that will cause blackouts and massive layoffs. In fact, the Obama administration has simply implemented long overdue and legally required clean air regulations to protect public health without hurting electric reliability or employment, and much of the transition away from coal is due to the rise of cheaper, cleaner natural gas.



Most Major Clean Air Act Rules Began Under The Bush Administration. A Congressional Research Service report explained that many Obama-era pollution rules proposed to enforce the Clean Air Act and other statutes "began development under the Bush Administration":
Not all of these rules are Obama Administration initiatives. Many began development under the Bush Administration, including several that were promulgated under that Administration and subsequently were vacated or remanded to EPA by the courts. Within the Clean Air Act group, for example, most of the major rules, including the agency's boiler rules and two of the major rules affecting electric power plants (the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule and the MACT rule [Mercury and Air Toxics Standards rule that will require that utilities limit hazardous air emissions using the Maximum Available Control Technology (MACT)]) fit that description. Other EPA actions, such as reconsideration of the ozone air quality standard, have actually delayed for several years implementation of Bush Administration rules that would have strengthened existing standards. [Congressional Research Service, 8/8/12]



Conservative media have claimed that the Obama administration is waging a "war" on "cheap," "clean" coal that will cause blackouts and massive layoffs. In fact, the Obama administration has simply implemented long overdue and legally required clean air regulations to protect public health without hurting electric reliability or employment, and much of the transition away from coal is due to the rise of cheaper, cleaner natural gas.
Most Major Clean Air Act Rules Began Under The Bush Administration. A Congressional Research Service report explained that many Obama-era pollution rules proposed to enforce the Clean Air Act and other statutes "began development under the Bush Administration":
Not all of these rules are Obama Administration initiatives. Many began development under the Bush Administration, including several that were promulgated under that Administration and subsequently were vacated or remanded to EPA by the courts. Within the Clean Air Act group, for example, most of the major rules, including the agency's boiler rules and two of the major rules affecting electric power plants (the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule and the MACT rule [Mercury and Air Toxics Standards rule that will require that utilities limit hazardous air emissions using the Maximum Available Control Technology (MACT)]) fit that description. Other EPA actions, such as reconsideration of the ozone air quality standard, have actually delayed for several years implementation of Bush Administration rules that would have strengthened existing standards. [Congressional Research Service, 8/8/12]

[link to mediamatters.org]
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You are an idiot. nObama has put so many 'REGULATIONS' on coal that nobody can operate a coal plant anymore and remain profitable.

Bush wanted cleaner EMISSIONS - not to put them out of business like nObama.

It is fools like you who dring the nObama kool aid that blame anyne but the perp themselves. WAKE UP ALREADY!!

And if not - the power of economics will soon bite you in the butt along with those of us who tried to stop it.

LIBS - YOU OWN IT!!
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It appears YOU are the idiot!
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Are you stupid to BS flag this FACT?! Obama said the same during his first run 4 years ago! Your memory sucks!
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Conservative media have claimed that the Obama administration is waging a "war" on "cheap," "clean" coal that will cause blackouts and massive layoffs. In fact, the Obama administration has simply implemented long overdue and legally required clean air regulations to protect public health without hurting electric reliability or employment, and much of the transition away from coal is due to the rise of cheaper, cleaner natural gas.



Most Major Clean Air Act Rules Began Under The Bush Administration. A Congressional Research Service report explained that many Obama-era pollution rules proposed to enforce the Clean Air Act and other statutes "began development under the Bush Administration":
Not all of these rules are Obama Administration initiatives. Many began development under the Bush Administration, including several that were promulgated under that Administration and subsequently were vacated or remanded to EPA by the courts. Within the Clean Air Act group, for example, most of the major rules, including the agency's boiler rules and two of the major rules affecting electric power plants (the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule and the MACT rule [Mercury and Air Toxics Standards rule that will require that utilities limit hazardous air emissions using the Maximum Available Control Technology (MACT)]) fit that description. Other EPA actions, such as reconsideration of the ozone air quality standard, have actually delayed for several years implementation of Bush Administration rules that would have strengthened existing standards. [Congressional Research Service, 8/8/12]



Conservative media have claimed that the Obama administration is waging a "war" on "cheap," "clean" coal that will cause blackouts and massive layoffs. In fact, the Obama administration has simply implemented long overdue and legally required clean air regulations to protect public health without hurting electric reliability or employment, and much of the transition away from coal is due to the rise of cheaper, cleaner natural gas.
Most Major Clean Air Act Rules Began Under The Bush Administration. A Congressional Research Service report explained that many Obama-era pollution rules proposed to enforce the Clean Air Act and other statutes "began development under the Bush Administration":
Not all of these rules are Obama Administration initiatives. Many began development under the Bush Administration, including several that were promulgated under that Administration and subsequently were vacated or remanded to EPA by the courts. Within the Clean Air Act group, for example, most of the major rules, including the agency's boiler rules and two of the major rules affecting electric power plants (the Cross-State Air Pollution Rule and the MACT rule [Mercury and Air Toxics Standards rule that will require that utilities limit hazardous air emissions using the Maximum Available Control Technology (MACT)]) fit that description. Other EPA actions, such as reconsideration of the ozone air quality standard, have actually delayed for several years implementation of Bush Administration rules that would have strengthened existing standards. [Congressional Research Service, 8/8/12]

[link to mediamatters.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27861365


You are an idiot. nObama has put so many 'REGULATIONS' on coal that nobody can operate a coal plant anymore and remain profitable.

Bush wanted cleaner EMISSIONS - not to put them out of business like nObama.

It is fools like you who dring the nObama kool aid that blame anyne but the perp themselves. WAKE UP ALREADY!!

And if not - the power of economics will soon bite you in the butt along with those of us who tried to stop it.

LIBS - YOU OWN IT!!
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It appears YOU are the idiot!
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Nope U are the Dumb ass. Just wait until your electric bill skyrockets.
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The way things are going, we will be using coal to survive.
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Thread: 18,000 workers just lost a job Hostess just called it they will shut down

It starts w/energy, food, and hmmm what else makes life great for Americans?

They're pushing the dominoes so carefully placed for 100 years- it's about destroying us anyway they can now!!

Starvation, poverty, corruption- blame the unions all you want, but the elites have had years to infiltrate them and MAKE them the bad guy!! You'll hate them until you can't find food and a job and you'll wonder why..blame the avg. worker(lazy or not) and then you become one- never blaming the rich people who planned it this way!
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BINGO!!! There are people on this board and on radio talk shows who blame people for wanting LIVING WAGES! And in case most forget it WAS/IS the fucking UNIONS that keep those big, greedy corporations honest!! Yeh, let the ceo's get million dollar checks, with lifetime health and pensions but let the employees work for 10 an hour and have to pay for half their health ins with a lousy 401k - tied to a stock market that the elite own and benefit from, every time it rises AND falls!!!!

But, please, whatever you do...don't let the elite fool you into believing that the Unions created all of this, that would be silly, right?

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