I have had I think a prophetic dream. I saw Angels and this is what they said..

This is a discussion OP, you started the thread. People ask questions in a discussion. You're getting hostile, it was just a question. No need to get upset.

Ok, I"m REALLY signing off now, have a good night and God bless everyone!

Sorry if I hurt your feelings OP, but you have to expect questions if you're putting something like that out there.

Peace out!

I came with a message and you have attacked it from the start saying its demonic because it is against war

you should be ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!

If you come here AS A CHRISTIAN you should behave as one ALWAYS!

are they different?

Day in and day out

One has to stomach the continuos attacks..the apparitions of the Blessed Mother requesting repentence, conversion, prayers etc..are demonic according to some

Our Catholic Church is also demonic according to some

Messages of peace and love and against war are also demonic accordfing to some

then what is Holy according to YOU

Of course not. They are One.

You do know that you worship your prophecies, hm?
If there were prophecies that said you jump off a bridge tomorrow, would you do it, to just fulfill your glorious prophecy ?!

See what is happening here.
There are no coincidences I believe.
God gives you the choice to decide for yourself, what you wish for this world. And you are chosing war. You claim it´s necessary. Because it is written somewhere?

Well, I rather see this as your trial of faith.
God speaks to you through every human, not only through angels or scriptures, that have been manipulated over and over again. The church is corrupted to the core.
You need to free yourselves from all this and learn to listen to what is trying to reach for you from all around.

Throw all that anger away about what others believe.
Here´s your chance to make your peace and decide for yourself to chose peace over war.

I don´t know which god you want to impress and want to be loved by, in promoting war as necessary.
You´re heading to a dark road, if you don´t recognize the divine in your brothers and sisters that want to believe in peace and demonizing the way they receive their messages.

The greatest war of all is the one where you need to overcome yourself. Remember that.

There are not some elected few, only because it´s in the scripture. There is no scripture that can tell you the truth and when you believe so, you´re deceived by words.
The only scripture, where you can find the answers is already written within yourself. That is the only reliable source.



Last Edited by Artaius San on 11/17/2012 06:49 PM

Your subject says, "I have had I think..." Your subject does not say, "I have had..." This implies that you are unsure of the meaning of the dream.

I have responded twice. Both times I included a link to 1 Thessalonians 5:3. I believe that verse is a warning to you. If you had read the link, you would have seen that the link describes that in the end times. You would have seen that in the end times a proclamation that is a lie is put out for people to believe. The proclamation is translated something like, "Peace and safety" The verse explains that the proclamation of peace and safety is not at all what is going to happen. In fact the verse says that destruction will quickly destroy those who believe that peace and safety are coming.

I am sorry that you have not heard from God, but the Bible is clear on this matter.

I hope the best for you!

They probably dont care or mind

because
1.They believe they are saved, fair enough
2.They believe that it doesnt matter if everything is destroyed and everyone dies they arent because God is going to take them away, and bring them back when everything is mopped up and made nice and tidy. Minus everybody else. So they dont care .

Now is this the truth

I dont believe it is

I am still waiting for the adecuate scripture quote that endorses the rapture

It would be different if they though that all the suffering they think is of so absolutely necessary if you pleased happend to them , but they think they will be on some pink cloud blissfully unawares of it all

@ Lisa Lisa....yes, I pray to Mary, as you stated..Not to worship her as you are wont to pointing out, but to honor her as the Mother of God, as you should also do.

When we honor Mary, we honor her Son, Jesus, conversely when we dishonor Mary as you have done so many times, we dishonor her Son.

God the Father gave her the greatest honor ever given to any of His Creation, to bear His only begotten Son, and thats why we Catholic lovers of Christ, honor His Mother, and remind people that God Himself made her Blessed among all women.

@ Salt ....Millions of angels exist in the armies of Christs heaven and interact with humanity on a daily basis. Why did God appoint an individual guardian angel to every human being He created, and who protect and guard us daily...Read and understand your scripture ignorante, and stop picking and choosing to serve your own ego.

So they see it as I think
The quicker the veggies are cooked and eaten , the quicker we get to eat the cake

So they think in my opinion in order to get the cake the veggies MUST be cooked and eaten and are terrified if the veggies arent cooked because they so want that cake they dont really care about anything much

now is this based on love of Christ and His wonderful message and unconditional love for everyone and everything as Christ taught or is it based on self centered selfrighteousness egotistc love of self that wants the best no matter the price others pay for it

that is a great question.

i have a bunch if you want to see them

i recently did a study of old testament prophecies that discuss this very topic. but, the Holy Spirit had not come yet and was not named by Jesus to us yet. In the OT, He is called "the restrainer"

Are they thinking of others

or are they thinking of themselves

are they loving Christ

or are they using Him to get the reward they are salivating after

are they obsessed with saving themselves

or are they motivated by a profound love to please Christ, to Give Glory to God out of Love not asking anything in return

I'm sorry but I do have to comment. You have to understand that the catholic church is wrong on so many levels. In the bible the lord calls those whose who are his saints. yet in the catholic church they make images and tell you to pray to the saints. That's not in the Bible. They tell you go to a priest to ask for forgiveness. Jesus said come to me. They tell you to pray to Mary she was vessel of the holy spirit just like everyone who is filled with the holy spirit. Many teachings of the Catholic Church go against what Jesus said. No where in the bible does it say that their will be pope. Or to pray to saints, or to pray to his mother. In fact he says to her when he dying on the Cross Woman look at your son and son look at your mother. Not once did he say mother or pray to my mother. He says by his own words come to the father in my name. If a person reads what Jesus stated and compares it to the teachings of the catholic complete opposite.

Mary ~

OP, prophecy is not going to change.
this world, and the sin in it, must run its course.
real Christians rejoice in this because we know that Jesus is returning to make all things new. no more pain, suffering, tears, evil, death.

i'm starting to think you are trolling your own thread.

lol

The fighting in this thread is of no use. It is not anyone's place to tell another what to believe.

If you want to be a warrior, be a warrior of love. Not a warrior of self-righteousness. Egoism does not endear your cause.

Whether you choose to board a ship or stay on the Earth... it really doesn't matter. We will all end up in the same place sooner or later - back to the source. Love the journey and the path, no matter which one you choose. And respect the path that other's may choose. It is the one their heart tells them to take.

Mary Happens to be His Mother She is not to be mocked

NOt all who think will be among the chosen will indeed be.fortunately it is not up to us to decide if we will be there or not. And no amount of mutual reassurance will change anything

You can say from here till the end of time you are saved

you can repeat it till you are breathless

you can have others say it with and for you

it will not change anything

because only God decides who will be saved or not

our actions are not meant to be powered by the intent of being saved, but because of our unconditional love of Him, to honor and to please Him. to give Him Glory.

I expect you will say that all who believ in Christ are saved


I beg to differ.satan believes in Christ

Christ Himself says that not all who say Lord Lord will be among the chosen

it just doesnt work that way

it isnt a private p[artyy where the ones who can afford it get the ticket

its a free invitation and no jacket required

everyone is called

but only few will be accepted

Someone was asking about the rapture scripture written in the bible here it

1Cor 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Cor 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Cor 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Cor 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?



1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Thess 4:18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

The term rapture is a word meaning to be lifted at a twinkling of an eye

My opinion>This refers to the change that will happen after the judgemnt . When all will be chamnged. Those that are chosen and become eternal.

This is really pointless

you wont change your mind

you all will continue smugly to hope a nice pretty war happens so you can quietly wait for that pink cloud to come along and pick you up while others suffer and die and are destroyed and this planet is torn to shreds

thats the love Christ taught. I think not

This strange concoction

where so called Christians hold the bible in one hand and a nbook of war in the other, or maybe a weapon to kill others with

Oh I forgot Christ said he came to bring the sword

I dont think he or any of his followers ever used it

So the bible in one hand and the telly on while bombs fall on civilian houses and entire families are killed

oh but I forgot

it has to happen

what if it happnede to YOU

and that pink cloud ooops didnt come along

Here are more verses regarding the rapture

Luke 17:20-37 (We considered 17:20-25 last week, this week we focus on 17:26-37)

[20] Once, having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, "The kingdom of God does not come with your careful observation, [21] nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you."

[22] Then he said to his disciples, "The time is coming when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, but you will not see it. [23] Men will tell you, 'There he is!' or 'Here he is!' Do not go running off after them. [24] For the Son of Man in his day will be like the lightning, which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other. [25] But first he must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation.

[26] "Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. [27] People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

[28] "It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. [29] But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.

[30] "It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. [31] On that day no one who is on the roof of his house, with his goods inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. [32] Remember Lot's wife! [33] Whoever tries to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. [34] I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. [35] Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left."

[37] "Where, Lord?" they asked.

He replied, "Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.

"I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left." (17:34-35)