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I have had I think a prophetic dream. I saw Angels and this is what they said..

 
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What would Christ think if He came back now
Lets be honest

Would he be pleased at how
1.His Mother is mocked or ignored at best
2.His message of Love and Peace is something a bit different, cough, to quite a few of His followers
3.Thou shalt not kill is considered a suggestion

etc..etc..

What would he say about how we have used the precious talents He has given us

His Words

Have we hid them, buried them, kept them to ourselves or made good use of them

Christians saying war is a necessary evil

Christians saying the death penalty is necessary

Christians saying Life is only Sacred in certain situations

and so on and so forth

we are free to choose

but when we carry His name we hold a responsability to try to overcome our numerous sins and imperfections and to try to make a difference if only by typing on a computer as best as we can and trying to make some sense
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This isnt the only dreamn I had. I had another about a year ago.
I cant go into detail as it would hurt many feelings here

Because it was straight and to the point

I was told in the dream that Christianity today, many Christians are not real followers of Christ at all

thats as diplomatic as I can put it
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This strange concoction

where so called Christians hold the bible in one hand and a nbook of war in the other, or maybe a weapon to kill others with

Oh I forgot Christ said he came to bring the sword

I dont think he or any of his followers ever used it

So the bible in one hand and the telly on while bombs fall on civilian houses and entire families are killed

oh but I forgot

it has to happen

what if it happnede to YOU

and that pink cloud ooops didnt come along
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You are the OP of this thread, correct?
IMO, your dream was a beautiful personal experience, I can only hope that as you delve into your heart will the meaning become clear (or clearer) for you. You were very brave to share it here :)

27 pages of war.... as I read thru this thread, that's what I saw, 27 pages of mental warfare - all because someone asked for input about a dream - WOW!

The one known as Candace.... you've got your work cut out for you!! I'll admit, some of your chosen 'language' is confusing to me, even some of the ideas - but I have resonated with much of what you've tried to convey in terms of universal truths, if I may be allowed such wording.

The Christian Soldiers here.... the ones with the Bible in one hand and a sword dripping with human blood in the other, standing proudly on dogma, theology and ego..... there is no benefit to mankind in this posturing. Put down your swords, and pick up your hearts.

OP, I've read many times in this thread - "OP, don't believe this" or "OP, don't believe that". OP, may I say, look into your own heart and believe the truth that lies within.

Kismet
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I used some chosen slang, as to language today to serve a purpose. Sometimes its important to be completely authentic and my efforts were aimed as causing a tad of shock to certain ones. Didn't work, so I support I will clean up the mouth a bit. Thank you for your entire post. Very nice.

There is no point in the dogma, they must live in the reality that is this world, that is what I am trying to waken them too. Its all based on old stuff and its not the same world as then. There are however lots of soldiers of the Lord who carry no dogma by the millions on this world, waiting to activate and remember themselves. I work towards that some here, because there are some lovely real soldiers here, who know how and what it is, and are guided internally and not by dogma. Christians, read the bolded part of above, this one knows of what he speaks.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread
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Re: I have had I think a prophetic dream. I saw Angels and this is what they said..
We have to get it into our heads that Jesus is not a fool we can coerce to accept us just cos.

He came s a lamb, but that wasnt a sign of weakness, that was a sign of incredible strength

To have the power to wipe out all opposing forces and yet to submit willingly like a lamb to be laughtered takes great strength

we all should remember this when dealing with His message and words

He is mighty

more than the Angels

He is powerful
He is Christ

His message is sacred and not to be altered or adjusted to what we want or think it should be

we dont like it, thats ok, we leave
we cant be Christians by changing His message to adapt to us

the door is narrow

we either accept

or we go elsewhere

We have no right and no authority to touch His message
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This isnt the only dreamn I had. I had another about a year ago.
I cant go into detail as it would hurt many feelings here

Because it was straight and to the point

I was told in the dream that Christianity today, many Christians are not real followers of Christ at all

thats as diplomatic as I can put it
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thankyou. This is also truth and some of the "why" behind my behavior here today, it brought out the obvious did it not?
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread
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Re: I have had I think a prophetic dream. I saw Angels and this is what they said..
He saw STRAIGHT into the heart of peoplke. There was NO fooling Him then or now

Its the Love it always was

We are to be known by how we love

The shere arrogance of some that pretend to alter and adapt His message to some weird concoction that defies definition that only makes it sound Christian thanks to a couple of Halleluyas thrown in for good measure.

Seriously

So many want His return, have you any idea at all what He will be like?

You think He is going to go after the sinners?

What do YOU think He is going to say about what Has been done to His message by some?

What is He going to say about all the souls that have been lost because of the wrong sheparding of some?

You think it will be ok?

We all better get our act right and quick

Saying Praise Jesus ! Halleluya! and all the rest of it will NOT SUFFICE!! In my opinion

it didnt then it wont now

He is NOT TO BE FOOLED OR TREATED LIKE A FOOL

We better hope He takes a wee bit longer to come so it gives us some time to tidy this disgraceful mess up and get our act together with humility..because I think He will NOT be pleased
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Oh and His Mother should be revered and honored.

What She went through. To have to see what they did to Him who not only did She know was the messiah but that was HER SON

For that alone

But its more than told on this thread she is an ordinary woman like you or me the poster said. Excuse me? Do you think God would pick just another normal average woman to give birth to the Messiah? or do we have such a high esteem of ourselves to compare ouselves to Her?

She is IMMACULATE

She is the pure vessel that was chosen to give birth to the pure love made flesh

and no we are NOT like her



I wa
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Beleive me I understand what your saying. My experience from the lord has been spiritual from the begining when I asked him into my heart. I asked for forgiveness and accepted Jesus Christ as my savior. The moment I did The power of God hit so powerful I began to weap like a child. I fell under his presence I had no strength. It was almost like if I was floating. When I was on the ground I felt what it meant to be born again. The only way to describe it was as if someone was pouring fresh water within me. And I felt this water filling from my feet to my head. It was one of the most amazing experiences in my life. In the bible it says out of your buzom will flow rivers of living water. I can say I experienced what that meant. God Loves All please stop with your deceptions. That dream was a warning to come call upon Jesus Christ and accepting his gift of salvation.
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I am not posting out of ill will or feeling, there is love in what I do
But sometimes it is difficult to remain calm and placid when one has to read some things . I tried
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Beleive me I understand what your saying. My experience from the lord has been spiritual from the begining when I asked him into my heart. I asked for forgiveness and accepted Jesus Christ as my savior. The moment I did The power of God hit so powerful I began to weap like a child. I fell under his presence I had no strength. It was almost like if I was floating. When I was on the ground I felt what it meant to be born again. The only way to describe it was as if someone was pouring fresh water within me. And I felt this water filling from my feet to my head. It was one of the most amazing experiences in my life. In the bible it says out of your buzom will flow rivers of living water. I can say I experienced what that meant. God Loves All please stop with your deceptions. That dream was a warning to come call upon Jesus Christ and accepting his gift of salvation.
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What deception?
And what makes you think I do not Love Christ with all my being?
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I Love Christ. I dont have to call uypon Him. He is in my heart and soul, He is not outside of me but is part of me.
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But I dont Love Him because I want Him to save me

I Love Him for who He is

For the wonderful message and example of Love He gave the world

For Himself

As real Love should be without asking anything in return. Because it is not a merchandise to be bought and or sold, it is a gift to be given for free.

How many Love Him?

You think He doesnt know whats in our hearts?

That He can be fooled?

Not Him..ever
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Op she was only human yes she was special and chosen but not somone to be worshipped and praying to. Respected absolutely, Blessed beyond all women of course. But not prayed to or having graven images of her. That is what God calls idolatry. That love that you have for her give to the lord Jesus Christ , To the Father , To the Holy Spirit.


Matthew 10:34-39




Not Peace, but a Sword

34 ‘Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35 For I have come to set a man against his father,
and a daughter against her mother,
and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;
36 and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household.
37Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38and whoever does not take up the cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39Those who find their life will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake will find it.
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If He said to YOU I will not save you I can not save you..would YOU still Love HIM?
If He had nothing you wanted , would YOU still LOve HIm for who He is?

Would you?
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I was talking about GOD LOVES ALL

how he/she brings so much deception regarding flying object and the other stuff that does not go along with what is written in scripture.
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Op she was only human yes she was special and chosen but not somone to be worshipped and praying to. Respected absolutely, Blessed beyond all women of course. But not prayed to or having graven images of her. That is what God calls idolatry. That love that you have for her give to the lord Jesus Christ , To the Father , To the Holy Spirit.


Matthew 10:34-39




Not Peace, but a Sword

34 ‘Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35 For I have come to set a man against his father,
and a daughter against her mother,
and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;
36 and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household.
37Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38and whoever does not take up the cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39Those who find their life will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake will find it.
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This world is built on idolatry

some worship money
some worship power
some worship success
some worship nations
some worship possessions

the list goes on

You have fotos of family members are you worshipping them?

i have a statue of the Blessed Mother and I light a candle and pray because I Love Her and have faith in Her.What harm is there?

I Love Her because I love Her Son

I Love Her because she gave us Him

She could have said no

she had free will

She said yes

and never failed

never made a mistake

was perfect in everything

You betcha I Love Her as I am sure He does
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There is judgement. But it is not mans prerrogative to impart this.
Only Gods

Uriel warned in the dream, and the raised arm and sword I intepret as striking if necessary. Call it judgement. The Angels behind were waiting also.

Uriel said war is not the way. It is evil and deliberate deception pretending to bring promised land but leading to the opposite.
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It has been declared at the Highest levels that THERE WILL BE NO MORE BLOOD SACRIFICE!! Swift and sure "undoing" for anyone who tries it. It's a suicide mission - which may be what they are striving for rather than reconciliation.

yoda
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@ OP....Estoy de regresso..
thanks again for your message. It touched many here in varying ways, albeit some are dissenters, and will accuse one of hearing from demons, yet the same will tell us that they are Spirit-filled and hear from him...interesting??

What part of Spain are you, good lady, and may I commend you on your excellent command of the english language. You have a better command than a great majority of Americans, I am sad to admit?
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Op I don't doubt that the dream was from an angel of God. And to me you seem like someone who has a sensitive heart please do me a favor hear this song.


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Op she was only human yes she was special and chosen but not somone to be worshipped and praying to. Respected absolutely, Blessed beyond all women of course. But not prayed to or having graven images of her. That is what God calls idolatry. That love that you have for her give to the lord Jesus Christ , To the Father , To the Holy Spirit.


Matthew 10:34-39




Not Peace, but a Sword

34 ‘Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35 For I have come to set a man against his father,
and a daughter against her mother,
and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;
36 and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household.
37Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38and whoever does not take up the cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39Those who find their life will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake will find it.
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If you mean Mother Mary, one can talk and love whoever they choose. She was a remarkable woman and still is. You ones don't know who she was before her incarnation and who she is NOW. She is Mary Queen of this solar system. Wife of of Sanat Kumara who I guess you could call King of this solar system, being that he is the solar logos.

You quote of not peace but a sword, refers to the setting up of 4d, the dimension where people stand and squabble and out of that peace is born as ones come into truth. prior to 4d, they follow any old shit of their cultures. during 4d they begin to reason and argue. We are in that, and it shows in this thread, which is actually great.

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

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I cant go into detail as it would hurt many feelings here
Because it was straight and to the point
I was told in the dream that Christianity today, many Christians are not real followers of Christ at all
thats as diplomatic as I can put it
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Not to put a damper on your experiences but would you be given information and it stops there by design. The topic you mention is not a new subject to any forum but being able to point out the specifics only happens at a few places. Pointing out the errors and giving the 'corrected version' should be followed through on. It isn't going to shatter any lives and the 'false christians' won't get your point in all likelihood. I'm more comfortable (and sure that my version is supported by something other than imagination) by throwing around some Scripture (the long passages is not done to intimidate it is just that God is pretty specific in what is being said and that is because all the various parts have to fit together a certain way or the conclusions are in error.

On the topic of even getting messages from a Biblical Angel what proof is offered that God has sent him and I'm quite serious about the Lord's prayer being involved. Daniel connected through prayer so what he experienced is possible although not for the purpose of adding more 'Scripture' as the end of Revelation is all there is to 'be published'. The unfolding is the next phase 2 and I have to assume some will be 'updated' throughout the process, after all 1/3 remain alive and I doubt all will 'be converted' on the last day. (Yes there are verses that back that up, I'll save them for when that is the topic at hand)

Right now it is voices and should the content be relayed even if the 'holder' (you) are a bit reluctant to do so. The parable about the men who were given things and some increased that through dealing with others, one kept it hidden and as such there was 'no increase' and when the conclusion came it was the hoarder who was in the most trouble.
A true Angel would include things that can be found in the Bible, such as 1 big hand enveloping you as being related to what Saul experienced and would be a manifestation of the verse below.

Heb:10:31:
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

The benefit for you in getting slanders and distractions is that you end up being able to not have them distract you from the topic and you will find that method is all through society, of a person is uncomfortable with something. I wouldn't say this applies 100% of the time but the more flak you get on something might mean the point is quite valid and you should make sure by learning as much as you can despite what a 'majority' thinks, after-all 2/3 are found to be sinners after having the Gospel preached (via prayer) by Angels for almost 4 years.

Another point that may or may not apply is that your messages are not a gathering tool in that you will see results, more than likely someone reading the thread will get a 'flashback' and that is when dots will start to be connected in the way you suggested, at least that is how it worked for me more than a few times and at first I tried to refind the original thread to update it.

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@ OP....Estoy de regresso..
thanks again for your message. It touched many here in varying ways, albeit some are dissenters, and will accuse one of hearing from demons, yet the same will tell us that they are Spirit-filled and hear from him...interesting??

What part of Spain are you, good lady, and may I commend you on your excellent command of the english language. You have a better command than a great majority of Americans, I am sad to admit?
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@ OP....Estoy de regresso..
thanks again for your message. It touched many here in varying ways, albeit some are dissenters, and will accuse one of hearing from demons, yet the same will tell us that they are Spirit-filled and hear from him...interesting??

What part of Spain are you, good lady, and may I commend you on your excellent command of the english language. You have a better command than a great majority of Americans, I am sad to admit?
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Me alegro verte hf
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Op I don't doubt that the dream was from an angel of God. And to me you seem like someone who has a sensitive heart please do me a favor hear this song.


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Thank you hf

I am not in a negative mood

This is motivated because of Love

for Him

for you

for this planet

For everything

Its just so many are as thick as bricks and as stubborn as mules and want to continue on this path of self destruction

that upsets me
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Op hope you like the video it's beautiful. In this world the majority is deception. In order for us not to come to Jesus as our saviors. So just becareful you don't beleive a lie.
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Op hope you like the video it's beautiful. In this world the majority is deception. In order for us not to come to Jesus as our saviors. So just becareful you don't beleive a lie.
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Lies arent the problem its the deceit.
The lies coated and presented as Truth. Thats the problem and lead many astray. Usually lies are easy to spot.
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Re: I have had I think a prophetic dream. I saw Angels and this is what they said..
Uriel said they are here to protect and save and to maintain and bring peace. Because it is not permitted to do war.

He had fair hair and had a sword in his right hand. You couldnt see the blade just the light. Like in star wars. It shone like sunlight.
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He was speaking from the clouds. The sky was like open..and he stood there, in the gap or opening. With the sword raised. His legs were spread apart as if over the world as if his feet were resting on the planet. With wide spread legs and his raised arm holding the sword.
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Thank you OP for starting this thread and sharing your dream!
It was touching and very poignant to the times in which we are living.

The war between Israel and Gaza is wrong and most of the world wants peace. No war or killing can be justified in God's eyes. Mankind fights over land and kills for it, when the heart of each man is what God looks at. A man fulfilled with the light of God, would give away his land to others, because he would KNOW WITHIN HIMSELF WHAT IS TRUE AND WHAT TRULY MATTERS! Israel is full of deception and lies. Hatred is their mantra and they have succeeded in their role of PLAYING VICTIM for too long.

God does not want WAR! The Angel Uriel speaks truth! Humanity is spiraling into insanity, and everyone not connected within to God's truth and knowing are following right along into the abyss of darkness and lies.

Christian indoctrination is also behind much of the darkness and lies. Biblical history for the last 2000 years has been altered according to man. God's voice was removed a long time ago, and because of this much of mankind still remains in darkness. Messengers of God are ridiculed and mocked, and called false messiahs. Bearers of light and truth to his voice are condemned here on GLP. His lighted truth is cursed by followers who claim to know him....and yet right now when it matters most for his true followers to share truth, they are fighting against it!

The Urantia book and Phoenix Journals were given to us for the truth of our times in which we live. We were always supposed to grow in knowledge and continue to learn and think. God does not want us to be followers, he wants us to use our god given mind. To BE MINDFUL IS TO PONDER, CONTEMPLATE AND GO WITHIN. To ask and discern that which does not resonate within our spirits. Much of this world does not make sense. How can Christians actually believe they will be saved, when it is up to US ALL to be the ones to help save our world. TO BE OF HIGHER MIND! To rise above this darkness and judging of each other, and do something to really change this world for the better.

The people attacking this thread are not contributing to a better world, by mocking and criticizing...they are continuing the spiral into insanity and darkness right now.

The real movers and shakers of God today are his THINKERS. They are the ones moving forward in this world with action to help and change our world for the better, and they are not stuck in the muck with their thinking of past biblical indoctrinations and scripture. People get out of the pews and start to make a difference.

Thanks again OP for sharing! May God's lighted warriors stand tall in righteousness of spirit wearing the mantle of Christ in all their words, actions and thoughts.

DMFS
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What many claim as 'idolatry' among Catholics is an erroneous claim. It is simply explained thus. In centuries past, the vast majority of early Christians were illiterate. So there was a very important measure taken by the early Church when constructing their places of worship, that they e.g. incorporate into their stained glass windows, as one will find in Churches and Cathedrals throughout Europe, the depicted story of creation, or the life of Christ, and various aspects of the Gospels, as a medium of instructing the worshpers.

The same applies the people retaining images of their Saints, so that they could be also venerated for their great contribution to spreading of the gospel, their teachings, like St.Francis of Assisi. The images were there to remind the faithful, and also so they would not be forgotten over hundreds of years. Remember people who could not read had only the vernacular to go by and the images of Jesus, of His angels and of His saints.

So, to be correct, Catholios do NOT worship Mary , angels, or saints. We worship ONLY God and His Holy Trinity, period.
We venerate the others. So that is a complete and utter falsehood propagated by the likes of dissenting Martin Luther, or Henry XIII, whose religion was basically founded by his own ego, as he wished to put himself above God's Law, and willfully live an adulterous life.
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What many claim as 'idolatry' among Catholics is an erroneous claim. It is simply explained thus. In centuries past, the vast majority of early Christians were illiterate. So there was a very important measure taken by the early Church when constructing their places of worship, that they e.g. incorporate into their stained glass windows, as one will find in Churches and Cathedrals throughout Europe, the depicted story of creation, or the life of Christ, and various aspects of the Gospels, as a medium of instructing the worshpers.

The same applies the people retaining images of their Saints, so that they could be also venerated for their great contribution to spreading of the gospel, their teachings, like St.Francis of Assisi. The images were there to remind the faithful, and also so they would not be forgotten over hundreds of years. Remember people who could not read had only the vernacular to go by and the images of Jesus, of His angels and of His saints.

So, to be correct, Catholios do NOT worship Mary , angels, or saints. We worship ONLY God and His Holy Trinity, period.
We venerate the others. So that is a complete and utter falsehood propagated by the likes of dissenting Martin Luther, or Henry XIII, whose religion was basically founded by his own ego, as he wished to put himself above God's Law, and willfully live an adulterous life.
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Thats wonderfully explained ac, thank you hf

But I wonder if the attacks will stop? Will they listen?

Youve seen the threads and posts calling us satanci. Lots of Catholics on Glp and we have to take this almost on a daily basis and to our face. But it is an occasion to show humility and meekness as our Lord would want. And to forgive. To not return hurt with hurt.

St. Francis my favorite. What a Saint! How can anyone not appreciate the wonderful spiritual gifts given by so many Catholics many of them now Saints that has enriched the lives of so many and helped so many?

It is so sad

But it is vital we return Love when hate is shown . or dislike. We have to be true to Him always.

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