good lordy this thread got stupid over night with the bible crowd. Can you ones not reason? I am not adding any more to it, it would serve no purpose. But I wish to state that yesterday I treated some as I have been treated, in hopes they would learn something. It didn't seem to work. However, it is joyous to see those that know God. Good work Orvontonian. I bet you ones don't know what Orvonton is? I have tired on that, didn't take.


OP continues to hold his ground. Good for him. He has gone much much further than most who label themselves Christians. He is striving for his perfection. I suspect he is star seed actually.

I AM THAT I AM, is the label for spiritually mature people. Not religion, not party systems of politics, stop beloveds defining yourselves by following and stand in your own shoes here. YOU ARE SONS OF GOD and no other definition is needed.