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I have had I think a prophetic dream. I saw Angels and this is what they said..

 
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Saving this thread....quote by quote.....Blessings to ALL
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He ET, I just had a thought, are YOU Mark Kimmel? or just his gofer?
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No

but i do read his messages & they sound a million times more authentic then the garbage being spewed from abundantlies
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Kimmels message are vacant of God, just as is your work here ET. I kept up with them for a bit. Everywhere you post here, there is no God in your work, I feel only antichrist from you. Other than your heart statements and those too are insufficient, as you leave out meditation and proper use of mind. There are people full of heart who are also full of god in the context, but they have no understanding of God and of cosmology. They are just nice people who live nice. I meet them all the time, but there is no concept about God in them, some don't attend church or anything, thank god, some will mention god, others do not, but in them is the Father by the fruits of how they live.

this is copied from a post you made above, on page 50

You have made-up your mind with your ego & it is pointless arguing with you

Earths transformation is Not(& was never) about Jesus or esu or whatever you wish to label him

Its your choice to continue worshiping the False-God character 'Christ Michael' & all that other information(bestowals, fictitious names of the universe, how it functions etc) that you read & do not know if it is true


i know it is a Deception from the points i made in earlier comme


We have never said, and you continue that frail frail lie above, that earth's transformation is about Jesus. NONE ONCE. Both that played the role of Jesus, as it has become to be taught, are here only in service to clean up this sector of the creation and educate man so that man can lift himself up. this is what we all do and much more than the education.

The UB is correct in its teachings of cosmology, that it is time for this world to know. Please make an extensive list of quotes from the cosmology and prove them wrong. You cannot do so, but you can try. And don't take a one line and put it out of context as your proof. You have no ability to debate whatsoever because the knowledge is not there within you to debate. If you are not Mark Kimmel than I can tell you never read the book. And if you are Mark Kimmell, you took a great fall to get cia help. And if you are Mark Kimmell, you didn't read the PJ's. And we can tell you didn't read the PJs no matter who you are.

You cannot make informed debate and arguments of material you are not familiar with. Or are unable to reason about. Fail big time.
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Sorry I started all of this. I don't want to start a argument between the saviors of my race and my race. By the way, can you give us an approximate date of the 3DD? enough atleast to say if it happens this week or not..People are going crazy about this weekend being huge...
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Sorry I started all of this. I don't want to start a argument between the saviors of my race and my race. By the way, can you give us an approximate date of the 3DD? enough atleast to say if it happens this week or not..People are going crazy about this weekend being huge...
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It will never happen

They have given dates in the past for numerous & massive predictions

& none of them ever happened...

* * * Here are some Classic Failed Predictions * * *

- 100% L.A. sinking under the sea 3 years ago ...
- 100% Tonga earthquake 2 years ago ...
- 100% 'Announcements' by the end of 2010 or beginning of 2011 ...
- Imminent New Madrid earthquake ...
- Imminent BP oil spill cataclysm ...
- Jupiter ignition ...
- The 'Wave' ...
- 'We will not see the end of 2011' ...
- June 2012 'Time is up' messages ...


They just endlessly make up excuses, claim more delays, change plans or change the story


This is not how true authentic beings of light communicate

& honest spiritual people would see this & figure it out by now

Don't believe their lies & deception

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"They are intervening already they said to disactivate conflict."

They can't intervene without negating the law of free will
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Re: I have had I think a prophetic dream. I saw Angels and this is what they said..
ET this is Candace. I have been on that ship, I am of ashtar command incarnate and you are stupid. OK. I have been on several craft, they are not reptilian. I happen to also know WHO Ashtar IS, as the name is not accurate for the man who heads ashtar command, but its use has been allowed. Those of us on MY team happen to KNOW who we serve and who we are and many of us have been on craft.

Kibo and I had often sat at the same table even, although I have not met him HERE. as he lives states away from me. We do not give disinformation and we are not part of any reptilian cult. Nor is Hazel our Melchizedek or any others of us who participate in this. We are who we say we are. You cannot refute this. You can die trying to refute it, but you cannot refute it. You do not have the experience to refute it.

And again, why are you so stuck to Mark Kimmel?
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Please no egoic fantasies, as things stand right now you have 0 credibility

In order to redeem yourself, Please take pictures or video next time you go on board the ship/spacecraft

YOu see Mark Kimmel was an avid reader of the UB. He attended local UB groups including the one Daniel Raphael attended. I sat at the table at lunch with him when he truth it all away. He even rewrote his final novel of the triad to make it work as the previous 2 were UB based to some degree plus other material. He thus destroyed that gifted work, that was really a channeled story from his higher self, the first two, plus other work he did.

This was a gifted man who threw it out. I will probably never know why. I do know he was out of money. But I do not know if that was all the cause.
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I do not know if mark kimmels messages are %100 authentic

However compared side by side to your abundanthope messages & other channeled material, it is clearly more intelligent & informative

I made some typos or the auto correct messed me up. He attended the group Daniel lead. I sat at the table at lunch when him (Mark) when he THREW it all away. is the corrected version of the sentence above.

Now, you can work at it all you want ET, but you cannot corrupt these solid members of my 2nd coming organization. They are from God, every single one of them, including myself. We are NOT corruptible. Kibo is Not corruptible. He cannot do that. You apparently by your fruits have corrupted, but I cannot judge your purpose in this.

We are going to get this world raised up into truth. We are not to be corrupted ever in this process. give it up. Not going to happen. You can try this, with the likes of Eve also, Rosie et all . NONE OF THEM can be corrupted. WE KNOW OURSELVES. -Candace
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i am not trying to 'corrupt' your members, you guys are living in a bubble of self-created delusions & fantasies supported by false sources of information such as the urantia book, pjs & old religious mentality

i am attempting to show the real truth so that you may also see what is real/truthful & what is not

Because many people who are seeking Truth are becoming trapped within the Lies & False beliefs on your website & unfortunately what has been created as a Cult Sect
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Re: I have had I think a prophetic dream. I saw Angels and this is what they said..
Actually.....i mean GOD......I...I AM...I AM THAT I AM...I AM WHAT I AM...I AM =I=
GOD THE FATHER...CREATORSOURCE...FIRST SOURCE AND CENTER OF ALL THINGS..THE UPHOLDER AND SUSTAINER AND BEHOLDER OF ALL LIFE, THE ADORABLE, MAGNANIMOUS ONE, HE THAT HAS CREATED THE WHOLE OF LIFE AND REALITY IN BUT A SINGLE THOUGHT THAT ONLY HE CAN HOLD, GOD OF GODS.....TOTAL, ABSOLUTE AND SUPREME BOSS OF ALL BOSSES.......YEAH...HIM=> THE ONE THAT CHRIST MICHAEL ATON, JESUS, ESU, MOSES, MOHAMMED, KRISHNA, BUDDHA..AND ALL THE MASTERS, ASCENDED AND ON EARTH AND ALL THOSE IN THE THIRD PSYCHIC CIRCLE AND ABOVE, AND ALL THOSE THAT THRIVE FOR IT, THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE OF UNIVERSES CALL FATHER AND CREATOR AND WHOSE WILL THEY ALL SERVE.....THE ONE WE ALL SERVE...THE ONE THAT EVEN THE PARADISE TRINITY BOWS DOWN TO IN REVERENCE, GRATITUDE, SERVICE, LOVE AND RESPECT......THAT ONE....THE ONE I CALL PAPA....THE ONE THAT IS WITH AND WITHIN ALL THINGS AS PART OF HIMSELF AND WHO IS MORE THAN THE SUM OF HIS PARTS, ETERNAL AND INFINITE IN LIGHT, LIFE AND LOVE.....AND INTERACTIVE AND PERSONAL WITH THE WHOLE OF HIS BEING, HIS CREATION...but that's me.....

I guess at this point i should say: sure..okay...no problem...and point out to you, very kindly...that neither one of us has proven anything....you haven't proved a thing in absolute reality except to say that your experiences, for whatever reasons, has brought you to the point of consciousness that you are at right now......and i must also point out that i have done the same...it is left up to those that read all of our words to decide for themselves how valuable it is or may be towards their own development...your apparent frustration at not being able to turn people to your own way of thinking only speaks to your own spiritual immaturity.....i can only hope that others take my own words with a huge grain of salt and insist on testing it out on the terms of their own relationship with The Divine, as they have it or see it or experience it....if they have at all.........they must be the ones to decide for themselves the path that they feel they have made or have been given as both of us have done...according to our litle sparring session here....

again...validity is within the eye, mind, heart and experience of the beholder, for they have nothing else to go on but that....whatever growth of changes they are to experience will come from their consideration of the words and values of people like us, who are at such odds...and to weigh our words and make their own decisions...and that is for the best....you have to let people be who and what they are...whatever any of us might think about it...that is all part of the experience of experiences in the life of The One,, in which we live and breathe and It in us......but that's me.....

i seek only to have my say and let others decide for themselves and do not get upset over their choices unless they seek to take offense of and/or force me to change my own to suit their own purposes...in my eyes, the day is surely coming when all will be revealed.....

as originally stated and intended to support the origin of this thread....i..I...in my experience have come to understand that the vision of Uriel that has been experienced by the OP of this thread is a valid one and true to the reality of Source Creator and that is that...as far as I Am concerned. you ones may think what you will and that's all well and good and all on you to experience the reward of it.
as for you, dear ET..thanks..it has been a truly enlightening and inspiring battle and i have enjoyed it thoroughly...i salute the strength of your own convictions...even as i disagree with them for myself...but your way is yours, however you have come to it or think that you have come to it and that is that....so it's all good in my book and i wish you good fortune and progress to light in the journey that is ahead of you.
i now go on upon my way as it has been given to me to do so.
I originally came into all of this to help out a friend and...as far as i can tell...that mission has been accomplished...and i have helped myself out ...and the Will of My Father in The Heaven of Heavens...and my immediate Boss [insert big smile here for those in the know] as well
so i am happy with the outcome and pleased with the results...because THEY are pleased.

again...thanks so much for all of this...i have loved this opportunity to spar in this way...it's been a long time.........a long time, indeed..since i've had to promote Holy Will in such a way......i have held my ground, my faith, my trust, belief and knowledge...without leaving room for your philosophy of doubt to overcome the open-ended, openmindedness of Divine Intention. God seeks to force no one to join Him, Just to have His side heard and considered. This has been accomplished...if not for you, personally...then for others that have read these words with great interest while they consider them in light of their own experiences and philosophies to see if there is any of it that is and will be useful to them in the journey of life and living that they see and realize that they are, indeed travelling.

We are all just travellers through this realm of physical time and space...how long we stay is up to us...but the goal is the same for all of us...perfection in THE PERFECT ONE......but...again...that's me and you'll just have to forgive me for that or get over it and go on with what is your life.......either way, it's all good.........to me

so that's it then...and we've come to a parting of ways....i shall only step in again if you give my good friend more trouble than she deserves from one such as yourself....otherwise, i have no issue with thee of any sort...only in loving my friend...mind you, i love you, as well...but you have yet to be my friend.. ah well...so be it...one day......in the meantime...please play nice...all this negativity and anger will only destroy you in the end and none of us wants that, do we? Try to be more loving and understanding and forgiving concerning the ways of others that do not match your own...we can't all be alike, that would make creation a boring place, indeed....all of this is for a reason ye have yet to even begin to consider, not to talk about understanding...but that's okay...it's all part of the journey...try to enjoy it as best you can without being such an obstacle in the way of others that are simply trying to get to where they know they are supposed to be...even if you think they shouldn't go there...all you can do is offer your words, knowledge, experience and advice and let it go at that.....horses don't always drink.....whatever river you have taken them too...leave it at that...if they want another river...they will find it without you...after all...for better or for worse...for right or for wrong...none of which is up to you...you tried to do what you thought was your job as best as you could do as best as was seen fit by the one you serve.......and we'll leave it at that.......
we are all each other, after all...are we not?

GOD IS ALL ARE WE ARE ONE ARE WE ARE ALL IS GOD

ALL GLORY TO THE ONE
IN THE LIFE OF THE ONE
TO THE ONE ALL GLORY
IN THE ONE LIFE OF ALL

I AM WHAT I AM
I AM I
I AM
I
 Quoting: Michael Ben Elohim


There is no 'Boss Papa God' in space

Stop worshiping this religious fantasy

The real creator/source does not demand or want any worship or "I AM..." mantra nonsense


The Real creator/source energies prefer people & creation to live in co-operation & harmony with existence
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He ET, I just had a thought, are YOU Mark Kimmel? or just his gofer?
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No

but i do read his messages & they sound a million times more authentic then the garbage being spewed from abundantlies
 Quoting: ET emissary


Kimmels message are vacant of God, just as is your work here ET. I kept up with them for a bit. Everywhere you post here, there is no God in your work, I feel only antichrist from you. Other than your heart statements and those too are insufficient, as you leave out meditation and proper use of mind. There are people full of heart who are also full of god in the context, but they have no understanding of God and of cosmology. They are just nice people who live nice. I meet them all the time, but there is no concept about God in them, some don't attend church or anything, thank god, some will mention god, others do not, but in them is the Father by the fruits of how they live.

this is copied from a post you made above, on page 50

You have made-up your mind with your ego & it is pointless arguing with you

Earths transformation is Not(& was never) about Jesus or esu or whatever you wish to label him

Its your choice to continue worshiping the False-God character 'Christ Michael' & all that other information(bestowals, fictitious names of the universe, how it functions etc) that you read & do not know if it is true


i know it is a Deception from the points i made in earlier comme


We have never said, and you continue that frail frail lie above, that earth's transformation is about Jesus. NONE ONCE. Both that played the role of Jesus, as it has become to be taught, are here only in service to clean up this sector of the creation and educate man so that man can lift himself up. this is what we all do and much more than the education.

The UB is correct in its teachings of cosmology, that it is time for this world to know. Please make an extensive list of quotes from the cosmology and prove them wrong. You cannot do so, but you can try. And don't take a one line and put it out of context as your proof. You have no ability to debate whatsoever because the knowledge is not there within you to debate. If you are not Mark Kimmel than I can tell you never read the book. And if you are Mark Kimmell, you took a great fall to get cia help. And if you are Mark Kimmell, you didn't read the PJ's. And we can tell you didn't read the PJs no matter who you are.

You cannot make informed debate and arguments of material you are not familiar with. Or are unable to reason about. Fail big time.
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i am not mark kimmel

i read his messages because there is real truthfully intelligent valuable information within it

i sense no cia manipulation

Just because others do not go along with your egoic messages filled with fear & lies does not mean it is the 'cia'

i did not have to read the entire urantia book(+pjs) & every single word in order to realize that it is BS

All i had to do was read some sentences, pages, concepts, belief systems here & there & my inner spiritual alarm immediately rang distinguishing it as simply being pure BS


The urantia book is not authentic information because it is basically a modern new age bible created by the same manipulating entities who created ordinary religious bibles & dogmas

It is some truths mixed with extraordinary amount of disinformation, lies, fake orders, fake names, fake rules, fake history & just plenty of fakeness page after page with tons of walls of empty text that does not resonate at all with my sensitive & high energies

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Re: I have had I think a prophetic dream. I saw Angels and this is what they said..
They said that they are here to help bring peace and stop any wars. They are here to save and free the planet. they said they speak with the authority of God.
And that we must not be afraid and to believe this.
hf
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You are hearing from the WRONG ANGELS.... even satan came as an angel of light!
 Quoting: Little Miss Sunshine

How can you judge? The antennas for the spiritual truth are others than for rational realization.
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We can judge because what OP is saying does not line up with the Bible. I choose to beleive the Bible
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If you choose to believe and follow the Bible then you would not judge
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Re: I have had I think a prophetic dream. I saw Angels and this is what they said..
Op I think your dream is true and his message real.
As to you "know it all xtians" you always shoot the messengers uh?
That is the problem with the world today, they are quick to condemn the person and totally miss the point of the message.
I would love to know how you can take a message of peace i.e wars are not permitted and turn it into evil and against god?
Most of you do not know the true god or follow the true message of christ.
If you did your words and actions would be totally different.
I have had dreams that are similar and prophetic but I rarely share them anymore because of people like you.
You will be your own undoing at the end......
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You are hearing from the WRONG ANGELS.... even satan came as an angel of light!
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beacht9 And now the thread is 51 pages long. Which just goes to show that the great majority of people like the comforting lies of false prophets. Nothing has changed since the days of ancient Israel.

Jer 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love [to have it] so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

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Sorry I started all of this. I don't want to start a argument between the saviors of my race and my race. By the way, can you give us an approximate date of the 3DD? enough atleast to say if it happens this week or not..People are going crazy about this weekend being huge...
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It will never happen

They have given dates in the past for numerous & massive predictions

& none of them ever happened...

* * * Here are some Classic Failed Predictions * * *

- 100% L.A. sinking under the sea 3 years ago ...
- 100% Tonga earthquake 2 years ago ...
- 100% 'Announcements' by the end of 2010 or beginning of 2011 ...
- Imminent New Madrid earthquake ...
- Imminent BP oil spill cataclysm ...
- Jupiter ignition ...
- The 'Wave' ...
- 'We will not see the end of 2011' ...
- June 2012 'Time is up' messages ...


They just endlessly make up excuses, claim more delays, change plans or change the story


This is not how true authentic beings of light communicate

& honest spiritual people would see this & figure it out by now

Don't believe their lies & deception
 Quoting: ET emissary


for God's sake Et, cannot you NOT accept we had to give a LOT OF NOTICE and when the shit heads didn't listen, they did some temporary corrections to DELAY the inevitable so folks like you could grow a mind? STFU on what you know nothing about. You will not be winning this one. God waves no magic wands and Siraya stayed the stasis Michael wanted to do a year ago. count your fucking blessings man. And quit ignoring my questions on Kimmel, because you are either him or his gofer.
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You are hearing from the WRONG ANGELS.... even satan came as an angel of light!
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:beacht9: And now the thread is 51 pages long. Which just goes to show that the great majority of people like the comforting lies of false prophets. Nothing has changed since the days of ancient Israel.

Jer 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love [to have it] so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?
 Quoting: Judethz


you however Judethz prefer the comforting and completely impossible lies of christianity. go figure.
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for God's sake Et, cannot you NOT accept we had to give a LOT OF NOTICE and when the shit heads didn't listen, they did some temporary corrections to DELAY the inevitable so folks like you could grow a mind? STFU on what you know nothing about. You will not be winning this one. God waves no magic wands and Siraya stayed the stasis Michael wanted to do a year ago. count your fucking blessings man. And quit ignoring my questions on Kimmel, because you are either him or his gofer.
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See... you are making up excuses.. providing 0 proof for any of your claims

i am not stupid enough to follow blindly without question like others

Because of that horrendous track-record you now have 0 credibility no matter how loud you kick & scream

Put up the proof & evidence

Because all i see from you & abundanthope is ALL Talk & no Walk
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for God's sake Et, cannot you NOT accept we had to give a LOT OF NOTICE and when the shit heads didn't listen, they did some temporary corrections to DELAY the inevitable so folks like you could grow a mind? STFU on what you know nothing about. You will not be winning this one. God waves no magic wands and Siraya stayed the stasis Michael wanted to do a year ago. count your fucking blessings man. And quit ignoring my questions on Kimmel, because you are either him or his gofer.
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See... you are making up excuses.. providing 0 proof for any of your claims

i am not stupid enough to follow blindly without question like others

Because of that horrendous track-record you now have 0 credibility no matter how loud you kick & scream

Put up the proof & evidence

Because all i see from you & abundanthope is ALL Talk & no Walk
 Quoting: ET emissary


Et this is fucktard behavior out of you, all dark, no god. The plans changes, we have to give notice by weeks etc, and I and kibo and others do go to ship and sit at the table on this stuff. you obviously do not.

I would suggest you throw in the rag and stop wasting all your typing time, because it will change exactly NOTHING. In due time, those that are still here are going to get the truth publicly. Unless of course the planet roles over.

Your doing all this changes nothing. Have you not learned THAT one yet? Why are YOU NOT UP THERE?
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Et this is fucktard behavior out of you, all dark, no god. The plans changes, we have to give notice by weeks etc, and I and kibo and others do go to ship and sit at the table on this stuff. you obviously do not.

I would suggest you throw in the rag and stop wasting all your typing time, because it will change exactly NOTHING. In due time, those that are still here are going to get the truth publicly. Unless of course the planet roles over.

Your doing all this changes nothing. Have you not learned THAT one yet? Why are YOU NOT UP THERE?
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Stop raging & Please provide pictures or video next time you go sit at that special table on that ship

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for God's sake Et, cannot you NOT accept we had to give a LOT OF NOTICE and when the shit heads didn't listen, they did some temporary corrections to DELAY the inevitable so folks like you could grow a mind? STFU on what you know nothing about. You will not be winning this one. God waves no magic wands and Siraya stayed the stasis Michael wanted to do a year ago. count your fucking blessings man. And quit ignoring my questions on Kimmel, because you are either him or his gofer.
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See... you are making up excuses.. providing 0 proof for any of your claims

i am not stupid enough to follow blindly without question like others

Because of that horrendous track-record you now have 0 credibility no matter how loud you kick & scream

Put up the proof & evidence

Because all i see from you & abundanthope is ALL Talk & no Walk
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.....a hell of confusion going on.
ET...there will be no harmony and co-creation as long as man lives in denial to GODs will.
GODs WILL not yours not mine....this is one of the main lessons that needs to be learned.

To me it seems you are always looking for proof outside yourself....because that is what you present here....what you call proof is other peoples idea not your own...I'm only telling you this so you can have a look in the mirror and see for yourself that every thing you accuse others of.... others as well could accuse you of.

What kind of proof would a video or picture be? You'd probably be the first one to call it "fake". Why?.....simply because it would be coming from Candace or AH.
It is clear and plain to see that you are not fighting for truth when it comes to her....you fight a personal war here....why? Because what AH stands for doesn't fit your believes?.....I doubt that this is the reason.

The Creator changed plans for mankind many times before....way before AH came to existence.....so now you think because of you doubting...Creator can't do this anymore? Are you alone in this world?...or are there others under the ONE who just might began to wake up to the idea that there must be more....not just flesh and bones...not just living in misery....dieing....and that's it. This whole Universe is involved...
You want to be the judge? Is it your will you want to be done....so you can have your proof?
Proof of what? GODs existence?...or GODs existence the way you see it?
Where is the place i can go see your teachings, your messages? Do you provide a platform for people to share their knowing....can they share godly wisdom and knowing or only likewise to your belief? Should i call you a "cult"?



Can't you see that talk like that is getting nobody nowhere?


Let's stop this....walk your path....the one you choose for yourself....but give others the right to do the same....there will be a meeting point...sooner or later....when we all stand in truth and knowing.

Blessings
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.....a hell of confusion going on.
ET...there will be no harmony and co-creation as long as man lives in denial to GODs will.
GODs WILL not yours not mine....this is one of the main lessons that needs to be learned.

To me it seems you are always looking for proof outside yourself....because that is what you present here....what you call proof is other peoples idea not your own...I'm only telling you this so you can have a look in the mirror and see for yourself that every thing you accuse others of.... others as well could accuse you of.

What kind of proof would a video or picture be? You'd probably be the first one to call it "fake". Why?.....simply because it would be coming from Candace or AH.
It is clear and plain to see that you are not fighting for truth when it comes to her....you fight a personal war here....why? Because what AH stands for doesn't fit your believes?.....I doubt that this is the reason.

The Creator changed plans for mankind many times before....way before AH came to existence.....so now you think because of you doubting...Creator can't do this anymore? Are you alone in this world?...or are there others under the ONE who just might began to wake up to the idea that there must be more....not just flesh and bones...not just living in misery....dieing....and that's it. This whole Universe is involved...
You want to be the judge? Is it your will you want to be done....so you can have your proof?
Proof of what? GODs existence?...or GODs existence the way you see it?
Where is the place i can go see your teachings, your messages? Do you provide a platform for people to share their knowing....can they share godly wisdom and knowing or only likewise to your belief? Should i call you a "cult"?



Can't you see that talk like that is getting nobody nowhere?


Let's stop this....walk your path....the one you choose for yourself....but give others the right to do the same....there will be a meeting point...sooner or later....when we all stand in truth and knowing.

Blessings
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See what you are also doing... you have made up this Grand Fantasy & Delusion making up Every Possible Conceivable Excuse to Explain-Away the Truth...

Again, by the Fruits of abundanthopes Labor there is No doubt, No possible way to deny that the information is Clearly Not coming from God, Source or any intelligent+benevolent ETs

& here is the Absolutely Undeniable Irrefutable Evidence:


* * * Massive Prediction Lies & Fear mongering * * *

- 100% L.A. sinking under the sea 3 years ago ...
- 100% Tonga earthquake 2 years ago ...
- 100% 'Announcements' by the end of 2010 or beginning of 2011 ...
- Imminent New Madrid earthquake ...
- Imminent BP oil spill cataclysm ...
- Jupiter ignition ...
- The 'Wave' ...
- 'We will not see the end of 2011' ...
- June 2012 'Time is up' messages ...


* * * False Untrue & Religious Beliefs * * *

- That the earth is overpopulated
- That everything is humanities fault
- That possession/entity manipulation is not currently possible
- That the earths transformation/liberation process is in some way, shape or form about Jesus & his 2nd coming
- That Candace is supposedly the chosen mighty messenger of Jesus & 'Christ Michael' ...

Now after all these years Not 1 ounce of Any of that has ever been Proven

Never has candace shown any proof that she is working with Jesus

It is all just authoritative intimidating empty Talk & Stories with no Substance

Thats it!


& when a real event or disaster does happen anywhere on the planet they did not predict or warn about it at all, they just use it to Twist it into their Cult/movement... Deception & Manipulation at its finest

Simply Put - The Real Authentic Creator/Source energies & ETs Do Not communicate in such a way with so many Lies, False beliefs & Inconsistencies

Just because some person, book or channeled message claims it is God or sounds Godly that does Not mean it is actually coming from God or the authentic ETs

You must learn to Discern & set-aside the ego & arrogance

Raise your Consciousness to be able to See & Feel what is True & what is not

Do you understand?


It is time to start being Truly Honest with yourselves instead of supporting & following Disinformation from the Forces of Manipulation

You people should tame your egos & Release the Fear of Questioning & Investigating these False-Gods & their Mighty Lies
(because your Ego & Fear is making you hold on to all that proven BS & old beliefs)

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ET....I do not fear at all....why should I? Why should anyone walking the spiritual path be in fear? Fear bounds, fear holds one back from Inner growth.
Why do you always bring up such a thing? Do you live in fear?

Ego....if anyone would have an ego only half as big as you claim....we'd all make big time money...living like Kings and Queens....and so on.....etc....etc....probably glorifying one another.

We do not attend in any belief systems may they be old or new....we attend in sharing our spiritual growth with people all over the globe....we attend to share what the Sovereign of this Universe.....yes your Creator...teaches to us....we attend to bring the Light of Truth and Spiritual Knowing.

Christ Michael and Candace, gave a platform to people who chose to walk the spiritual path....a platform where people can find true teachings....teachings of the Masters....the Teachers....this world had quite a few brilliant Souls who willingly shared their insight & wisdom....insight & wisdom inspired and given by GOD.
Fortunately by walking this path wholeheartedly, one will get to the point of meeting that which is DIVINE, the Origin of ones true essence.
Is your true essence not of GOD?

The Messages are given the way they are given so people can understand...plain and as simple as possible....(not simple enough it seems)

How can anybody proof anything which is of the Higher Realms to you, when all you got is earthly eyes to see with?
Should we take pictures...or make a video?....and then what?....would you have an "instant" change of heart?
You know it doesn't work that way...don't you?!

Candace has no followers...GOD does...He speaks to you also if you listen....you will hear his call.
Who ever chose to explore the essence of Life, who ever chose to find out who they really are, where they came from, what their purpose in life is, who ever chose spiritual awakening, who ever chose to find truth, live in truth...!not mans truth!....starts to walk with the Creator.

To you it may be just talk....if so...why don't you leave us alone and keep following who/what ever you like....hopefully....and I really mean this...what your own GOD GIVEN mind is trying to reveal to you.

I only "explained" YOUR truth away....not that which is of DIVINE ESSENCE.

You do not have to warn me, i used that part of my will which is "free"....I chose.

By the way....be grateful for the Creator loves mankind beyond the imaginable....many things have been prevented from happening....because Creator saw a tiny little chance for mankind to get up from their ass and start cleaning up the mess they so joyfully took in....with not much more than the egoistic thought of sweet-comforting only ones own needs, giving not a fucking shit about anyone or anything or creation at all!
Now that mankind managed to dig a whole....to deep to get back out....the Creator sends us his help in many ways....with waves of particles coming from the sun and beyond, particles of "food" for inner growth (and no, I'm not going to do a lecture on Quantum Physics or Sun activities, you are grown enough to find out yourself)....so we can wake up, so we can recognize what needs to be done, so we can recognize who we are, why we are and what for we are....and you tell me it is all a lie?

Why should I distrust my own eyes and put trust in your eyesight....not even knowing if you ware glasses or not?

Tell me, why should I ever distrust myself and follow your path....when following is all I would be doing....??
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ET....I do not fear at all....why should I? Why should anyone walking the spiritual path be in fear? Fear bounds, fear holds one back from Inner growth.
Why do you always bring up such a thing? Do you live in fear?

Ego....if anyone would have an ego only half as big as you claim....we'd all make big time money...living like Kings and Queens....and so on.....etc....etc....probably glorifying one another.

We do not attend in any belief systems may they be old or new....we attend in sharing our spiritual growth with people all over the globe....we attend to share what the Sovereign of this Universe.....yes your Creator...teaches to us....we attend to bring the Light of Truth and Spiritual Knowing.

Christ Michael and Candace, gave a platform to people who chose to walk the spiritual path....a platform where people can find true teachings....teachings of the Masters....the Teachers....this world had quite a few brilliant Souls who willingly shared their insight & wisdom....insight & wisdom inspired and given by GOD.
Fortunately by walking this path wholeheartedly, one will get to the point of meeting that which is DIVINE, the Origin of ones true essence.
Is your true essence not of GOD?

The Messages are given the way they are given so people can understand...plain and as simple as possible....(not simple enough it seems)

How can anybody proof anything which is of the Higher Realms to you, when all you got is earthly eyes to see with?
Should we take pictures...or make a video?....and then what?....would you have an "instant" change of heart?
You know it doesn't work that way...don't you?!

Candace has no followers...GOD does...He speaks to you also if you listen....you will hear his call.
Who ever chose to explore the essence of Life, who ever chose to find out who they really are, where they came from, what their purpose in life is, who ever chose spiritual awakening, who ever chose to find truth, live in truth...!not mans truth!....starts to walk with the Creator.

To you it may be just talk....if so...why don't you leave us alone and keep following who/what ever you like....hopefully....and I really mean this...what your own GOD GIVEN mind is trying to reveal to you.

I only "explained" YOUR truth away....not that which is of DIVINE ESSENCE.

You do not have to warn me, i used that part of my will which is "free"....I chose.

By the way....be grateful for the Creator loves mankind beyond the imaginable....many things have been prevented from happening....because Creator saw a tiny little chance for mankind to get up from their ass and start cleaning up the mess they so joyfully took in....with not much more than the egoistic thought of sweet-comforting only ones own needs, giving not a fucking shit about anyone or anything or creation at all!
Now that mankind managed to dig a whole....to deep to get back out....the Creator sends us his help in many ways....with waves of particles coming from the sun and beyond, particles of "food" for inner growth (and no, I'm not going to do a lecture on Quantum Physics or Sun activities, you are grown enough to find out yourself)....so we can wake up, so we can recognize what needs to be done, so we can recognize who we are, why we are and what for we are....and you tell me it is all a lie?

Why should I distrust my own eyes and put trust in your eyesight....not even knowing if you ware glasses or not?

Tell me, why should I ever distrust myself and follow your path....when following is all I would be doing....??
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No

I am not saying that you are in fear of those predictions & information

I am definitely Not afraid of such information not only because i Know it is BS, But also because i know my state of mentality & preparedness even in such situations

I am saying that the information in itself is coming from fear & chaos beliefs

Threatening mass evacuations or else & cataclysms is Fear mongering for most people who would participate & experience such a thing

Such a thing is Not peaceful, calm & lovely


Why would such a Powerful Mighty 'Christ Michael' God with all its assistance from ETs & the Universe continue to push for such an Agenda with Nothing Ever Happening?

BECAUSE the information is Simply Not authentic & definitely Not coming from the Real Source or benevolent ETs

Their plan is Not the plan of Endless Lies, Excuses, Fear & Chaos

Do you understand?


Again you are Twisting EVERYTHING to fit the Brainwashing Mentality & Stories of abundanthope


AGAIN... Candace is Not working with Jesus & those messages are Clearly Not coming from 'God'

This is Reality & Fact

The points & information i provided above Prove this 100% without any doubt


I definitely do not want people to 'walk my path'/think & act exactly as i do

However i am trying to expose what are Lies & Deceptions that do Not benefit people Mind-controlled & Trapped within Religions & Cults such as abundanthope

If people ever finally choose to see the Real Truth about these movements... then they can choose to handle that Truth in whatever way they want & not the same way as me

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If the dream is legit ..as I believe it is..why was I chosen to give the message?
I am a devout Catholic. I may have some unconventional view about some matters but my devotion to the Catholic Church is non negotiable.

So please think about this.

If Uriel did speak to me, as I believe he did, he must have known this too.

In the message nothing was said against the Catholic Church but only relating to the situations I have described
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Uriel did speak to you, and it has nothing to do with your religion. You are from the high realms and worthy and he knew you would post it. Your devotion is to
The FAther first and foremost and he knew this. You serve within the Catholic church perhaps to help enlighten those ones there? You obviously are unconventional, other wise you would not have agreed to receive the message in the first place.
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I am unconventional.
But my devotion and allegiance to the Catholic Church is not negotiable
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mine eighter....you don't throw the baby out with the bath water just because it gets "dirty"
Live and let live, for we all have our own lessons to learn.
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I beg to differ..in my opinion there is only one..Eve..what some cant get is that a woman because of love changes and becomes what pleases her lover in a positive way, and lets go of anything that is unpleasant to the one loved..when she really loves that is.
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Beloved, Eve and Lilleth has NOTHING in common or to do with each other. Otherwise, I have not a single clue what you are writing about. The definition of what a woman should do with her lover is a most perplexing statement. God is not that hard beloveds, do not make it so.
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Who is Litith? Is she somehow related to Lucifer?
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She IS *lucifer*.
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Wow, where is that in the bible...have not ever herd of this in the bible.

update:

Here is an update upon trying to find more info in the bible on this character.





[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com] attempting to verify this verse in the Authorized King James Bible, we found no such mention of Lilith, or the goat demon, but rather the following:

"The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest." (KJV)

It should be noted that the NIV translation allows for the interpretation of the previous verse to include demons and the Lilith teachings.

"Desert creatures will meet with hyenas, and wild goats will bleat to each other; there the night creatures will also repose and find for themselves places of rest.: (NIV)

The footnotes to this verse include reference to… " Desert creatures...hyenas ... wild goats. Sometimes connected with demons… night creatures. Outside the Bible a related Semitic word refers to a "night demon."

From the web site, "Lilith and the Talmud," we learned that Lilith and related topics are covered in sections of The Babylonian Talmud:

"b. Erubuin 18b: "Rabbi Jeremia ben Eleazer said, "During those years (after their expulsion from the Garden) in which Adam, the first man Was separated from Eve, he became the father of ghouls and demons and lilin." Rabbi Meir said, "Adam, the first man, being very pious and finding that he has caused death to come into the world, sat fasting for 130 years, and separated himself from his wife for 130 years, and wore fig vines for 130 years. His fathering of evil spirits, referred to here, came as a result of wet dreams." 23.

"Section b. Erubin 100b, refers to Lilith growing long hair; B. Nidda 24b refers to Lilith as a demoness with a human appearance except that she has wings;" 24.

b. Shab. 151b of The Babylonian Talmud states:

"One may not sleep alone in a house, for Lilith takes hold of whoever sleeps alone in the house." 25.

b. Baba Bathra 73-b continues with

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yo I think this OP was legit

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yo I think this OP was legit

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Yo..here I am..the she who people think is a he when I post
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where is he ?? :bumps:
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