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is israel trying hard to self fulfill prophecy?

 
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is israel trying hard to self fulfill prophecy?
or does it just look that way?
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or does it just look that way?
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Yes.

If you speak to the insiders, they tell you this.

Pittyfully.
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Wait till a stray one hits the Dome.
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Wait till a stray one hits the Dome.
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Can be something dangerous be covered under that Dome or what?????
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Re: is israel trying hard to self fulfill prophecy?
No, they are just tired of being harassed by suicide bombers and other insane people all around them that want them dead 24/7.
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Re: is israel trying hard to self fulfill prophecy?
or does it just look that way?
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blinker Prophecy is from God and if the Lord wills that something will happen, then it will happen.
It dosn't matter if men do it because He has moved them to do His will.
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Re: is israel trying hard to self fulfill prophecy?
No, they are just tired of being harassed by suicide bombers and other insane people all around them that want them dead 24/7.
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and they are not smart enough to know that killing and attacking people just makes things worse for them?

i saw a video of israelis shrieking in terror at a couple little puffs of smoke in the sky, i don't think they could handle a real war.
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No, they are just tired of being harassed by suicide bombers and other insane people all around them that want them dead 24/7.
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and they are not smart enough to know that killing and attacking people just makes things worse for them?

i saw a video of israelis shrieking in terror at a couple little puffs of smoke in the sky, i don't think they could handle a real war.
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And what do you suggest they do? Nothing? Just let those savages continue to murder and harass their people? That women you saw was a civilian and not a battle hardened soldier. Israel will do what it takes.
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No, they are just tired of being harassed by suicide bombers and other insane people all around them that want them dead 24/7.
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and they are not smart enough to know that killing and attacking people just makes things worse for them?

i saw a video of israelis shrieking in terror at a couple little puffs of smoke in the sky, i don't think they could handle a real war.
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I guess you don't understand their military. They could have destroyed their enemies a long time ago, the USA keeps holding them back.

They have a very strong and very powerful military. You are misinformed.
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so if the choice is free gaza or ww3 they choose ww3?
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No, they are just tired of being harassed by suicide bombers and other insane people all around them that want them dead 24/7.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


and they are not smart enough to know that killing and attacking people just makes things worse for them?

i saw a video of israelis shrieking in terror at a couple little puffs of smoke in the sky, i don't think they could handle a real war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27817168


I guess you don't understand their military. They could have destroyed their enemies a long time ago, the USA keeps holding them back.

They have a very strong and very powerful military. You are misinformed.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


i think war will be very bad for israel and israelis

i always think of when they had that fire and needed help from the palestinians to get it under control, there are many fires in war

they'll be in big trouble!
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Not Israel, the cabal is running this show. They wrote the whole damn script. There are NO chosen people, it was a plan to take over this world by the cabal using the jewish religion.
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Re: is israel trying hard to self fulfill prophecy?
No, they are just tired of being harassed by suicide bombers and other insane people all around them that want them dead 24/7.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


and they are not smart enough to know that killing and attacking people just makes things worse for them?

i saw a video of israelis shrieking in terror at a couple little puffs of smoke in the sky, i don't think they could handle a real war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27817168


I guess you don't understand their military. They could have destroyed their enemies a long time ago, the USA keeps holding them back.

They have a very strong and very powerful military. You are misinformed.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


i think war will be very bad for israel and israelis

i always think of when they had that fire and needed help from the palestinians to get it under control, there are many fires in war

they'll be in big trouble!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27817168


If this war escalates, we're all in big trouble!
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if they are smart they should know if you can't handle a fire you should stop dumping fuel on it
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In case you don't realise....the prophecy is an agenda they planned for a long ago and rolled out worldwide convincing the religious followers that it has to happen that way and that it is a book god wrote. Well technically, god wrote the book but you really have to drill down to know who this god is and the truth will shake you to your core how the world has been deceived and held spell bound.

You should read some of the threads I made last year as I covered this topic. I'm long past the stage of believing the supposed prophecy of the bible.

There are other explanations to why Israel is doing these and why now! It might be too late for many especially the staunch religious followers to break free of this sorcery on their minds. However if you indeed thirsty for the truth and you ask the right questions, you will get the answers.

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Their trying hard to not be overran with Obamas soldiers then his goal of global control.
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Re: is israel trying hard to self fulfill prophecy?
or does it just look that way?
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blinker Prophecy is from God and if the Lord wills that something will happen, then it will happen.
It dosn't matter if men do it because He has moved them to do His will.
 Quoting: Judethz


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Prophecy is from God and if the Lord wills that something will happen, then it will happen.
It dosn't matter if men do it because He has moved them to do His will.

Quoting: Judethz

Very well said. If something is going to happen from God, we can not undo it.
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...... the USA keeps holding them back.
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You sure it doesn't have something to do with signing this??

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 273 (III)

May 11, 1949
In the fall of 1948, Israel had applied for membership in the United Nations but failed to win the necessary majority in the Security Council. In the spring of 1949, the application was renewed This time, armistice agreements having been signed between Israel and Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon, Israel was admitted by 37 votes in favour, 12 against, with 9 abstentions. The text of the Resolution of admission follows: Having received the report of the Security Council on the application of Israel for membership in the United Nations,

Noting that, in the judgment of the Security Council, Israel is a peace-loving State and is able and willing to carry out the obligations contained in the Charter,

Noting that the Security Council has recommended to the General Assembly that it admit Israel to membership in the United Nations,

Noting furthermore the declaration by the State of Israel that it "unreservedly accepts the obligations of the United Nations Charter and undertakes to honour them from the day when it becomes a Member of the United Nations",

Recalling its resolutions of 29 November 1947 and 11 December 1948 and taking note of the declarations and explanations made by the representatives of the Government of Israel before the Ad Hoc Political Committee in respect of the implementation of the said resolutions,

The General Assembly

Acting in discharge of its functions under Article 4 of the Charter and rule 125 of its rules of procedure,

1. Decides that Israel is a peace-loving State which accepts the obligations contained in the Charter and is able and willing to carry out those obligations;

2. Decides to admit Israel to membership in the United Nations.
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Thread: TRYING TO FORCE THE END: The Ashes of the Red Heifer and the Ark of the Covenant (the Temple rebuild)
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Prophecy is from God and if the Lord wills that something will happen, then it will happen.
It dosn't matter if men do it because He has moved them to do His will.

Quoting: Judethz

Very well said. If something is going to happen from God, we can not undo it.
 Quoting: Will of God 10552346

Would that include this section of prophecy?

De:4:27:
And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations,
and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither the LORD shall lead you.
De:4:28:
And there ye shall serve gods,
the work of men's hands,
wood and stone,
which neither see,
nor hear,
nor eat,
nor smell.
De:4:29:
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
De:4:30:
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;

De:4:31:
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.



As far as I can tell the 'few in numbers' is for the time the 144,000 are sealed. That means it ties into this other part of the same prophecy and I'm also pretty sure we aren't at this part of the program.

Eze:39:23:
And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity:
because they trespassed against me,
therefore hid I my face from them,
and gave them into the hand of their enemies:
so fell they all by the sword.
Eze:39:24:
According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them,
and hid my face from them.

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Those sheep who cannot awake and are in denial...who believe this is a "self-fulfilled" Prophecy, are too far in denial concerning biblical prophecy, they are willfully ignorant. There is a place in hell for the "willfully ignorant". They choose not to awaken. Most of the "willfully ignorant" are atheists and we must pray for them.
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Judah was sent into Babylonian captivity for 70 years. The decree from Persia ended this captivity. However, before that decree came, Our Almighty put it into the hearts of the king of Babylon to allow a small contingent of militaristic Jews to return to the land under several conditions; namely, that they peacefully stay within their assigned borders, that they do not look to the horses and chariots of Egypt (military) for their protection and that they put their sole faith in HIM for their success and protection.

HIStory repeats - Daniel saw the '70 year' captivity in terms of the last days...Israel (the people), to this day, live in the world system of Babylon. In 1948 we saw this Babylon approve the return of Jews to a defined geographical region of Palestine. And what have they done? Enlarged their borders, armed themselves to the teeth and still place their faith in 'Egypt' - not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. To this day, they repeat the actions of their forefathers, and as then, they will see the same fate - total destruction of their armies.

All of Israel are still in Babylonian captivity. It is through Faith in Jesus that we spiritually exit this captivity. Revelation pleads for His people to come out of Babylon spiritually and physically to the extent that we can - relying on Him for our needs instead of Babylon's leaders. Our governments - the kings of Babylon - do everything they can to make us dependant on them instead of looking to Our Father in Heaven.

This captivity will end when the decree from Persia comes. Persia is the one who destroyed Babylon releasing the remaining J*e*w*s to return to the land. It is why we see Persia - Iran, India etc - rising today. There will be many skirmishes, but it will result in the same fulfillment - Babylon will fall. As Christians have dominated the western people's, we know exactly where Babylon thrives. And where and what will be decimated. Many in these lands watch the events in the country Israel unfold, and have no understanding that they are rebelling just the same as those J*e*w*s.
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not unless everyone gets to play,will be chilled out before gog magog war.
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Re: is israel trying hard to self fulfill prophecy?
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Is that way. And they hope to suck the rest of the world into their suicidal plan, instead of having the intellect to choose a peaceful path.
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The 'Light' sees Bibi....... and the lies ....There shall be a correction ;) hfpeace
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Yes this is all false and in this material temporal realm trying to bring up what has already been accomplished. And this already being fulfilled, they drew back out of that abyss of perdition/ destruction it was cast into.
Which it also was replaced in the eternal for everlasting not to ever be removed or undone by giving it to any other than who inherited it....the kingdom of the beloved Son.

So since we were forewarned many would sell even the master who bought them denying He their Master is Lord and King of this very present kingdom they can not see....because they have never seen it to begin with.

As well as those who were not unlearned or unregenerate in the church ....there is the false prophet warring for the same ends and the anti-Christ that was even from the beginning when the desolation's and destruction's were appointed and carried out upon their heads and lands.

So the times are to draw all that had not submitted their heart mind and soul....out to take up the lie instead their hearts desired honored and found pleasing unto them...

This was the separation and one to draw all men into the final judgment coming upon all mankind not a nation of old and their religion and temple or thrones of kings.....but the entire world from one end to another.

This is the point of entering the passing away of time appointed unto Salvation unto man by believing in what he could not see ...but loved anyway....even when he could not see it....Jesus the Christ who went away and would not be seen again. So the Word could go forth to come in to that mercy seat and live everlastingly.

That same Word is standing to judge all in this same end of the time of its going forth being full and fulfilled.

And so it is and so it will be....damnable heresies cause a great falling away....from the Doctrine of Christ first established unto them the Gospel of Salvation..

And to have went on past it further and corrupted the Gospel was a transgression against the Blood of the Covenant which was their spirit of truth and Grace..that gives them light to enlighten their way and that light being their light of everlasting light.

Once this has been cast off for the man of sin instead even to remake your own bread to make it your new way seen in vision for the future you want by gaining the whole world...

You have hated your own soul....and defiled your place in the covenant and trampled underfoot the blood of Christ...as though it was an unholy thing.

There is no other sacrifice nor remission for those who were once enlightened by the Light of Life given unto them...to be redeemed again.

It is dying time and has been for a while now....but the sudden death still awaits the whole that is in the whole now.

2 John 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

May He have mercy on whom He chooses to have mercy on....and may any who can go and receive their mercy buy the truth and sell Him not...

For fire walkers and flame divers are getting ready to swim it even in the depths of it....no matter how they say we fixed it or how they say peace peace safety we got it all under control......being out of Grace the blood is not covering you and you will still die even in your glory speaking..Lord Lord.

Will not save you.





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