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The Israeli mission into GAZA that is more likely than not coming.

 
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This is not what goes down.
At least not according to what's written in PSALM 83 and ISAIAH 17.

Lebanon will be drawn into this conflict.

You will see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1159544


You forgot Obadaiah, go back and read it again.

Notice the parts that Israel takes in verses 18, 19 and 20.
Doesn't have to be now but why not, especially if they wipes them out, now that would definitely spark Ps.83 and then Ezekiel 38-39.

Isaiah 17 and also Jeremiah 49 definitely can come in anywhere among these and the order of events can be any basically.

But Israel should soon realize that Hamas charter ( [link to www.fas.org] ) proves there never can be peace and the Koran proves there can never be peace. So it will lead to extermination wars and we know these Hamas and other creeps are in that business we see that in their own charter, its just like Hitlers Mein Kampf, they are very clear in their goals.
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But, it hasn't arrived yet. haha, just kidding. but, you are right. It's only 2012 because my electronics tell me so. The aliens told me it is actually 2014 too. But, that was before I stopped the space time continuum and slipped back to 2012, so I do know that it's 2012 now.
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That's the usual type of response from someone who doesn't understand

Not your time yet bro, keep making other people smile, you seem to be good at it
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Is that you Michael Tsarion?
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11/16/2012 11:15 PM
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You are still looking at basically a militia going against a real military force...
 Quoting: SHR


Soon to be played out on American soil...
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as soon as they try and chip us or confiscate firearms, it's on.....
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Hi SHR! Your take here is absolutely right. For the last two years I have been blasting the Admin's position on the ME until I put it all together and posted in someones thread about 8 mos ago. My hypothesis was all the Admin's ME moves went in one direction that was destabilazation of the major ME players. The purpose of this is to weaken the gov and prevent any concerted action against Israel. An Egypt under Mubarak/Libya under Ghaddaffi/Syria under a strong Assad all represented a serious challange to the continued existence of Israel. Especially when you throw in Iran/Lebanon etc.. A strong leader in charge of these armies presented a clear and present danger as they would follow them wherever. No matter who won control in these countries they would not be able to maintain the complete military control that previously existed. Also, a side effect could well be that these nations could be set on some type of path to establish democratic governments not immediately neccesarily but some time in the future. Your assessment bears this out. Both Egypt and Syria are for the most part neutralized. Libya is a quagmire. Iran is so preoccupied with western naval disposition that it welched immediately when Israel decided to handle the Hamas issue. The Hizzies in Lebanon are nation building and thus they have been playing nice. If I am right the gamble paid off big time.
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Israel couldn't back down now even if they wanted to (which I don't think they do.) If Israel stood down now, all you'd hear for the next 5 years is how Hamas whooped Israel's ass and sent them packing. That and for Israeli leaders it would be political suicide. The rockets would continue, Bibi would lose in a landslide in the coming election and rightfully so. Also, the IDF didn't amass huge columns of tanks, infantry and heavy vehicles just to let them sit by the border fence doing nothing. No excuses either about world opinion not allowing it. They have the tacit, if not outright approval of most of the western world.
As sure as night follows day they are going in.
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I don't think Israel is going to follow through. For years they have approached these situations with big rhetoric about their security, but don't have the nerve to really ruffle any feathers. Cast Lead was pretty much the maximum effort. I remember Netanyahu saying Olmert decided to end Cast Lead "prematurely" and that if Prime Minister, he would have finished off Hamas.

We're about to find out if Netanyahu meant that. I think he's grown soft unfortunately.
 Quoting: ISO

I agree that Bibi is the one factor that could yet derail the campaign. But I think he's painted himself in a corner he can't back out of both politically or militarily. And what would he say to the people of Israel when the rockets inevitably start back up after squandering the chance to stop them?
Interesting discussion.
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I think Israel will back down out of pressure not to repeat Cast Lead, and Bibi will just ignore it, just like the Olmert govt' ignored the humiliation of Lebanon, as if it never happened. In other words, the Israeli government talks a big game about security, but when the public is behind them, they drop the ball.

Israel is the only country in the world where the government gets public approval for the war effort to ensure their future security, and then collapses anyway and fails to follow through, leaving the public holding the bottles of rhetoric in their hands.

It makes people furious, and causes them to stop supporting Israel out of a disgust for not following through on their own policies. I think Israel's government may use election cycles as timelines for acting tough, and then panics when people protest in Israel against the first baby steps of any campaign to blast Hamas for good.
 Quoting: ISO

Good point about the tough talk happening close to election times. But this time around the election is timed so Bibi will have to back his tough words with tough actions. He can't kick the can long enough to get past the election. Even if he could who would vote for him after skulking away from battle like a dog with its tail between its legs. That's why I think it's different this time around.
I will admit though that Israel often makes me scratch my head in wonderment at some of its decisions.
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IMO this is going to be...

To disarm and remove HAMAS from command and control.

That is going to be a pretty huge campaign...not a mere assualt...but a campaign.

I see the stage set this time for Israel to vanquish Hamas once and for all as any sort of viable control group in GAZA and they are going to take the opportunity to do it...if they do?...

we can only hope that is as far as it goes...
 Quoting: SHR


you forgot to mention one crucial thing. this time around hamas has superior weapons. superior weapons if you would compare it to 2008
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This just means there will be a bigger hole in the ground when the IDF hits them.
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The level of reserve call up now surpasses the numbers of the 2nd Lebanon war and cast lead combined. My money is the incursion will come sooner rather than later. I expect after sundown Saturday.

The mobilization level reveals to me that Israel considers the risk of an expanded war is high enough to deploy early. This is the very kind of first phase I would expect before engaging Hezbollah in an offensive to the north.

An interesting week lay ahead. Perhaps the war we have all discussed many many times.
 Quoting: D. Bunker


Thanks for responding D...I didn't know the call up was beyond those numbers. I think you are right too...Israel is going to be ready for an attack from Hezbollah in the North, however I just don't see Hez doing it this time, I think they are going to sit it out.

With all that is going on?...Egypt having an new govt, Syria being a mess, Libya being a worse mess...I believe that Israel is going to seize the day and take out Hamas for good...and they don't expect any other nation to throw in and play Calvary...

We'll see...I think your time frame is on too...it's going to be days.
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I don't think Israel is going to follow through. For years they have approached these situations with big rhetoric about their security, but don't have the nerve to really ruffle any feathers. Cast Lead was pretty much the maximum effort. I remember Netanyahu saying Olmert decided to end Cast Lead "prematurely" and that if Prime Minister, he would have finished off Hamas.

We're about to find out if Netanyahu meant that. I think he's grown soft unfortunately.
 Quoting: ISO

I agree that Bibi is the one factor that could yet derail the campaign. But I think he's painted himself in a corner he can't back out of both politically or militarily. And what would he say to the people of Israel when the rockets inevitably start back up after squandering the chance to stop them?
Interesting discussion.
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I think Israel will back down out of pressure not to repeat Cast Lead, and Bibi will just ignore it, just like the Olmert govt' ignored the humiliation of Lebanon, as if it never happened. In other words, the Israeli government talks a big game about security, but when the public is behind them, they drop the ball.

Israel is the only country in the world where the government gets public approval for the war effort to ensure their future security, and then collapses anyway and fails to follow through, leaving the public holding the bottles of rhetoric in their hands.

It makes people furious, and causes them to stop supporting Israel out of a disgust for not following through on their own policies. I think Israel's government may use election cycles as timelines for acting tough, and then panics when people protest in Israel against the first baby steps of any campaign to blast Hamas for good.
 Quoting: ISO

Good point about the tough talk happening close to election times. But this time around the election is timed so Bibi will have to back his tough words with tough actions. He can't kick the can long enough to get past the election. Even if he could who would vote for him after skulking away from battle like a dog with its tail between its legs. That's why I think it's different this time around.
I will admit though that Israel often makes me scratch my head in wonderment at some of its decisions.
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Factor in Rockets hitting Tel Aviv and Jerusalem...I cannot see Israel backing down this time with THAT happening.

They have the license and the time is right for all the reasons I said...

I am more convinced right now that Israel is going to make the move to remove Hamas than I ever have been...and I think we'll know in a matter of days.
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