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Any computer genuises here?

 
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11/16/2012 06:33 PM
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Any computer genuises here?
My first Thinkpad died when the Nvidia vidcard died. My second Thinkpad is now dead with ..... a broken Nvida vidcard. These machines were apparently not designed for easy or cheap repairs.

I sure don't want to get in this position again but I'd like a PC I can take with me on the road. Is there a laptop brand designed for easy maintenance? Are All-In-One computers designed for maintenance?

Suggestions? Ideas?
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11/16/2012 06:38 PM
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Re: Any computer genuises here?
HP Elite Book (miles better than there crappy consumer range)
rugged military grade you can bounce them on the floor and they still work + very easy to service just pop off the back (don't even need a screwdriver)

[link to h10010.www1.hp.com]
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11/16/2012 06:41 PM

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Seriously, get a macbook 13" my kids have had one for three years, never had a problem (hardware or OS) and they have been absolutely hammered, Oh and they hold their value unlike windows machines.

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Thinkpad should be the toughest laptop you may get, except those militry equiped.

Got a Thinkpad X60, T410, for like 2~3 years, still working like charm, you sir should really check your habbit of using.
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11/16/2012 06:43 PM
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Re: Any computer genuises here?
its hit and miss, best bet is to sort by price, then read reviews of products in your price range.

laptops are so different model to model even with same makes, you never know if your going to end up with a problem or a blessing.

so read the reviews.

that's my best advice.
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11/16/2012 06:46 PM
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computers are the devil
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11/16/2012 06:48 PM
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thinkpads are usually a whole lot sturdier than other laptops, but they are a bitch to disassemble (and reasssemble). just get a repair manual for it.

or buy a ruggedized laptop (panasonic toughbook, ...).
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11/16/2012 06:51 PM
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Thinkpad should be the toughest laptop you may get, except those militry equiped.

Got a Thinkpad X60, T410, for like 2~3 years, still working like charm, you sir should really check your habbit of using.
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My first Thinkpad was a T61. My second one was a T510. Both units were fully loaded, bought new from Lenovo and adult operated.

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Seriously, get a macbook 13" my kids have had one for three years, never had a problem (hardware or OS) and they have been absolutely hammered, Oh and they hold their value unlike windows machines.
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Pt 1 - true, pt 2 - BS. With rare exception, NO computer "holds its value", Apple or not. All computers become obsolete quickly, and as a matter-of-fact, Apple purposely devalues their line after short periods of time by constantly releasing new products.
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you had, twice, a graphic card die on you, in a thinkpad.
if there's one thing that thinkpads usually aren't build for, it's heavy graphics work.
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11/16/2012 07:40 PM
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Re: Any computer genuises here?
My first Thinkpad died when the Nvidia vidcard died. My second Thinkpad is now dead with ..... a broken Nvida vidcard. These machines were apparently not designed for easy or cheap repairs.

I sure don't want to get in this position again but I'd like a PC I can take with me on the road. Is there a laptop brand designed for easy maintenance? Are All-In-One computers designed for maintenance?

Suggestions? Ideas?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27733308


One of the first things you look for while buying a laptop is the warranty period. For Dells, HP Elitebooks and some other laptops there is a 3 year limited warranty if I can recall correctly. There is always the option of extending the original warranty period, but it requires you to pay for the extended warranty coverage.

As far as laptop build quality is concerned... Well... Let me just say that I'm a computer repair tech and I've worked with all the brands and ranges that have been mentioned in this thread so far. One of the more common problems I work with is repairing cold solders that develop on laptop motherboards. Big BGA chips like chipsets and GPUs tend to develop cold solders over time because of excessive heat and the type of solder (lead free solder which gets brittle over time as the BGA chip heats) used to solder them on to the motherboard. We use BGA rework stations to take the chips off and solder them back on to the motherboard with new solder balls once we clean the old solder off. There is no such thing as an indestructible laptop especialy now when the manufacture has been almost exclusively outsourced to you know where :p. Some are just better built like the more expensive Thinkpads (T,W and X series), Panasonic Toughbooks or HP Elitebooks for instance, but they all can and do have problems.
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Re: Any computer genuises here?
Assemble a Desktop PC hf

Low cost,easy to maintain , long lifespan , high performance 5a
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Re: Any computer genuises here?
My first Thinkpad died when the Nvidia vidcard died. My second Thinkpad is now dead with ..... a broken Nvida vidcard. These machines were apparently not designed for easy or cheap repairs.

I sure don't want to get in this position again but I'd like a PC I can take with me on the road. Is there a laptop brand designed for easy maintenance? Are All-In-One computers designed for maintenance?

Suggestions? Ideas?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27733308


One of the first things you look for while buying a laptop is the warranty period. For Dells, HP Elitebooks and some other laptops there is a 3 year limited warranty if I can recall correctly. There is always the option of extending the original warranty period, but it requires you to pay for the extended warranty coverage.

As far as laptop build quality is concerned... Well... Let me just say that I'm a computer repair tech and I've worked with all the brands and ranges that have been mentioned in this thread so far. One of the more common problems I work with is repairing cold solders that develop on laptop motherboards. Big BGA chips like chipsets and GPUs tend to develop cold solders over time because of excessive heat and the type of solder (lead free solder which gets brittle over time as the BGA chip heats) used to solder them on to the motherboard. We use BGA rework stations to take the chips off and solder them back on to the motherboard with new solder balls once we clean the old solder off. There is no such thing as an indestructible laptop especialy now when the manufacture has been almost exclusively outsourced to you know where :p. Some are just better built like the more expensive Thinkpads (T,W and X series), Panasonic Toughbooks or HP Elitebooks for instance, but they all can and do have problems.
 Quoting: N.O.S. (nli) 14376334


I have a somewhat-related question for you. What is your experience with repair rates on Toshiba laptops? I have owned 3 and all have been damn near impossible to kill. My oldest was from 1998 and it is still running nicely today and browsing the web (albeit with FreeBSD as the OS and the battery no longer works). I normally am cautious about what I recommend to people, but so far the Satellite line has seemed very durable.
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Re: Any computer genuises here?
I have a somewhat-related question for you. What is your experience with repair rates on Toshiba laptops? I have owned 3 and all have been damn near impossible to kill. My oldest was from 1998 and it is still running nicely today and browsing the web (albeit with FreeBSD as the OS and the battery no longer works). I normally am cautious about what I recommend to people, but so far the Satellite line has seemed very durable.
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In recent years Toshiba has become a less reliable brand than it was before. Satellite nad Satellite Pro ranges have severrly dropped as far as reliability and build quality is concerned. Older models cannot be compared to todays counterparts as far as build quality is concerned. Some of Toshiba Satellite and Satellite Pro range have been recalled recently because of flaws regarding batteries and other issues. Satellite L models have had problems with motherboards a few years back and so on... I've even worked with quite a few broken Qosmios as well. Porteges and Tecras are still standing firm. I'd say they are the most reliable Toshiba ranges of laptops.
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11/16/2012 08:37 PM
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Re: Any computer genuises here?
I am a pc geek from hell since Dos 2.0 days.

I have several desktops and various laptops.

I render 3d art so I must have a heavy duty graphics card, my last one was 8800oe Nvidia and retailed for $700 just for the card when new.

I have had several Nvidia and GEforce cards and I have over the years come to one final conclusion, the only conclusion that makes prefect sense.

Nvidia and GEforce cater to the gaming community.
To appease the worthless brain dead "gamers" that are always testing new faster games and graphics, both Nivdia and Geforce push out updates almost constantly to force squeeze every tiny bit of over cock and power they can get out of their cards.
Eventually I feel the constant gamer updates make the cards eventually die an early life from overwork.
As a bonus the companies just sell you more cards so it is no loss to them to push out an update that eventually fries your card.

Once I stopped taking graphic card updates my graphic cards last 20x longer now.

Just something to think about when and if you get a new graphic card, turn off the Nvidia and GEforce auto updates.

Shit, I'll probably be found dead in a few months after this post.
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computers are the devil
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This
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LOL, sorry...HAHAHA meant to type "over clock", not over cock... :) Damn, no edit buttons yet on glp?
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Re: Any computer genuises here?
My first Thinkpad died when the Nvidia vidcard died. My second Thinkpad is now dead with ..... a broken Nvida vidcard. These machines were apparently not designed for easy or cheap repairs.

I sure don't want to get in this position again but I'd like a PC I can take with me on the road. Is there a laptop brand designed for easy maintenance? Are All-In-One computers designed for maintenance?

Suggestions? Ideas?

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Yes...stop buying IBM garbage.


Dell or HP are the way to go.

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