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Which is Satan's second greatest decption since Eden? Catholicism or 'evolution'?

 
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Neither. The answer is the rapture.
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Why? I don't think it's caused anyone that much harm. I feel bad some people think Jesus will swoop in and take them before the Tribulation, and they are in for a lot of suffering they didn't count on, but I don't think the deception is on such a large scale as the Catholic church or even Evolution. It also doesn't have as much of a consequence.

I know a guy who just started an organization to teach people the Rapture doesn't exist. At least the pre-trib notiion of being taken up in the clouds. Trouble is, he also believes Christ won't return for hundreds, possibly a thousand years and thinks all prophecies were fulfilled before 70 A.D. If you scratch below the surface, his father was a Baptist minister who believed Jesus would return about 1988. Obviously he didn't, and this guy was embarrassed for his father. Why? So Dad was mistaken, big deal.
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Ahh.... the ultimate blasphemy, good call;
" I, even I, have said in my heart with regard to the sons of mankind that the [true] God is going to select them, that they may see that they themselves are beasts. 19 For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity. 20 All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust. 21 Who is there knowing the spirit of the sons of mankind, whether it is ascending upward; and the spirit of the beast, whether it is descending downward to the earth? 22 And I have seen that there is nothing better than that the man should rejoice in his works, for that is his portion; because who will bring him in to look on what is going to be after him?" Ecc3:18
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oops2 Whoa... So are you saying that this verse is saying no one is going to Hell?
 Quoting: Kamon

Right, there is no hell-fire in the bible. Hell (English for the Greek Hades) is the common grave for all mankind where even Jesus was for three days until resurrestion. The 'lake of fire' means eternal destruction.
"For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin." Ro6:7
 Quoting: DGN

Hell is not eternal it will be the destruction of the wicked. Hell is real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


It is the real grave for everyone but the dead are not alive there;
"For as respects whoever is joined to all the living there exists confidence, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion. 5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun." Ecc9:4
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No way are these two Satan's great deceptions. The Muslim religion is more evil and deceptive than either of the two.You really are an idiot for posting this!
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He's not an "idiot" for posting this at all.

Catholicism and evolution are both MAJOR deceptions.
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Agreed. I think a case could certainly be made for Islam, but it was a relevant question.
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Neither. The answer is the rapture.
 Quoting: Chip


Why? I don't think it's caused anyone that much harm. I feel bad some people think Jesus will swoop in and take them before the Tribulation, and they are in for a lot of suffering they didn't count on, but I don't think the deception is on such a large scale as the Catholic church or even Evolution. It also doesn't have as much of a consequence.

I know a guy who just started an organization to teach people the Rapture doesn't exist. At least the pre-trib notiion of being taken up in the clouds. Trouble is, he also believes Christ won't return for hundreds, possibly a thousand years and thinks all prophecies were fulfilled before 70 A.D. If you scratch below the surface, his father was a Baptist minister who believed Jesus would return about 1988. Obviously he didn't, and this guy was embarrassed for his father. Why? So Dad was mistaken, big deal.
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No way are these two Satan's great deceptions. The Muslim religion is more evil and deceptive than either of the two.You really are an idiot for posting this!
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Than learn history first! Muslims are the result of the catholic church, this beast system which is the woman riding on the beast has caused all nations to drink her wine. This system controls the world, all presidents, dignitaries, prime ministers, religious sects all bow to the head of it. The pope claims to be God, the church claims the right to forgive sins, they claim Mary is a co-redeemer with Christ and still the whole world follows the beast. The so called prophet Mohammed married a rich catholic woman.
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oops2 Whoa... So are you saying that this verse is saying no one is going to Hell?
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Right, there is no hell-fire in the bible. Hell (English for the Greek Hades) is the common grave for all mankind where even Jesus was for three days until resurrestion. The 'lake of fire' means eternal destruction.
"For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin." Ro6:7
 Quoting: DGN

Hell is not eternal it will be the destruction of the wicked. Hell is real.
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It is the real grave for everyone but the dead are not alive there;
"For as respects whoever is joined to all the living there exists confidence, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion. 5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun." Ecc9:4
 Quoting: DGN


The dead are alive and subjected to their allotment according to their sins. Some will burn longer but not eternally.
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Right, there is no hell-fire in the bible. Hell (English for the Greek Hades) is the common grave for all mankind where even Jesus was for three days until resurrestion. The 'lake of fire' means eternal destruction.
"For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin." Ro6:7
 Quoting: DGN

Hell is not eternal it will be the destruction of the wicked. Hell is real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094


It is the real grave for everyone but the dead are not alive there;
"For as respects whoever is joined to all the living there exists confidence, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion. 5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun." Ecc9:4
 Quoting: DGN


The dead are alive and subjected to their allotment according to their sins. Some will burn longer but not eternally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094

"For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin." Ro6:7
See the contrast between religious philosophy and Jehovah's word?
"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." 2Ti3:16

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Matthew 10:11-15

11 Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. 12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13 If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. 15 Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.

Plainly scripture tells us here that some will be judged harsher than others. The judgement day is when Christ comes back with His reward.
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Hell is not eternal it will be the destruction of the wicked. Hell is real.
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It is the real grave for everyone but the dead are not alive there;
"For as respects whoever is joined to all the living there exists confidence, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion. 5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun." Ecc9:4
 Quoting: DGN


The dead are alive and subjected to their allotment according to their sins. Some will burn longer but not eternally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094

"For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin." Ro6:7
See the contrast between religious philosophy and Jehovah's word?
"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." 2Ti3:16
 Quoting: DGN


Whoa dude back up some. The scripture if you go back is referring to the old self which we must take off and put on the new self. We are to destroy our old self and put on the full armor of God.
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Protestantism....as its name describes. No other reason other than the 33,000 sects of protestantism. Actually, OP is ignorant of biblical theory, so this is just a dumb question from some farm raised red neck that goes to some snake charming church that is told what to believe.
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It is the real grave for everyone but the dead are not alive there;
"For as respects whoever is joined to all the living there exists confidence, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion. 5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun." Ecc9:4
 Quoting: DGN


The dead are alive and subjected to their allotment according to their sins. Some will burn longer but not eternally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094

"For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin." Ro6:7
See the contrast between religious philosophy and Jehovah's word?
"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." 2Ti3:16
 Quoting: DGN


Whoa dude back up some. The scripture if you go back is referring to the old self which we must take off and put on the new self. We are to destroy our old self and put on the full armor of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094

That's a great, life time challenge scripture but it's not this one;
"But YOU did not learn the Christ to be so, 21 provided, indeed, that YOU heard him and were taught by means of him, just as truth is in Jesus, 22 that YOU should put away the old personality which conforms to YOUR former course of conduct and which is being corrupted according to his deceptive desires; 23 but that YOU should be made new in the force actuating YOUR mind, 24 and should put on the new personality which was created according to God’s will in true righteousness and loyalty." Eph 4:23
Good call.
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Protestantism....as its name describes. No other reason other than the 33,000 sects of protestantism. Actually, OP is ignorant of biblical theory, so this is just a dumb question from some farm raised red neck that goes to some snake charming church that is told what to believe.
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But 1 catholic church that prays to Mary, worships Mary and dead saints is acceptable. The pope claims to be God on earth, claims evolution and the Bible are compatible, claims tradition over scripture and all the sects of protestants are corrupt? I have personally watched EWTN channel for the last month to see if the catholic church is Biblical but they all put Mary as a co-redeemer with Christ, they claim she is without sin and it is disgusting. No rosary is needed, no hail Mary is needed, no intercessor but Christ. AMEN
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The dead are alive and subjected to their allotment according to their sins. Some will burn longer but not eternally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094

"For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin." Ro6:7
See the contrast between religious philosophy and Jehovah's word?
"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." 2Ti3:16
 Quoting: DGN


Whoa dude back up some. The scripture if you go back is referring to the old self which we must take off and put on the new self. We are to destroy our old self and put on the full armor of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094

That's a great, life time challenge scripture but it's not this one;
"But YOU did not learn the Christ to be so, 21 provided, indeed, that YOU heard him and were taught by means of him, just as truth is in Jesus, 22 that YOU should put away the old personality which conforms to YOUR former course of conduct and which is being corrupted according to his deceptive desires; 23 but that YOU should be made new in the force actuating YOUR mind, 24 and should put on the new personality which was created according to God’s will in true righteousness and loyalty." Eph 4:23
Good call.
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What's your point here?
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angels having sex with women and creating a new race
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Protestantism....as its name describes. No other reason other than the 33,000 sects of protestantism. Actually, OP is ignorant of biblical theory, so this is just a dumb question from some farm raised red neck that goes to some snake charming church that is told what to believe.
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Hey, that was a great slammer, way better than most! Btw what is bible theory, is this an unwitting confession of ignorance?
I'm with ya on protestantism, they recognize the tyranny of the church and escaped only to fall into the same trap, making up their own religion, in all it's confusion.

"“Believe me, woman, The hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will YOU people worship the Father. 2YOU worship what YOU do not know; we worship what we know......  Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him.  God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.” 25 The woman said to him: “I know that Messiah is coming, who is called Christ. Whenever that one arrives, he will declare all things to us openly.” 26 Jesus said to her: “I who am speaking to you am he.” Jo4:23
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angels having sex with women and creating a new race
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Angels cannot procreate.
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marijuana that doesn't get you high!
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Protestantism....as its name describes. No other reason other than the 33,000 sects of protestantism. Actually, OP is ignorant of biblical theory, so this is just a dumb question from some farm raised red neck that goes to some snake charming church that is told what to believe.
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Hey, that was a great slammer, way better than most! Btw what is bible theory, is this an unwitting confession of ignorance?
I'm with ya on protestantism, they recognize the tyranny of the church and escaped only to fall into the same trap, making up their own religion, in all it's confusion.

"“Believe me, woman, The hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will YOU people worship the Father. 2YOU worship what YOU do not know; we worship what we know......  Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him.  God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.” 25 The woman said to him: “I know that Messiah is coming, who is called Christ. Whenever that one arrives, he will declare all things to us openly.” 26 Jesus said to her: “I who am speaking to you am he.” Jo4:23
 Quoting: DGN


^^^^
This

Protestantism started off good because it was people breaking off from their whore mother.....the Catholic Church

But just like the bible prophesied ....the daughters have returned to their mother
Of course the daughters are Protestant denominations

find an unafillated non denominational church that follows the Word of God and they don't rely on spiritual boards or council to determine things....the tru church of God just obeys the Word of God(Bible) all of it

It's pretty simple....just do what the Bible says and your golden
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marijuana that doesn't get you high!
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Yeah tell me about that one. When a friend and I deserted the Navy in 1970 from Moffet Field Ca another friend gave us six lids of weed thinking he'd never see us again. The stuff wouldn't give a high no matter hard we smoked it. We finally realized it was male weed, no THC.
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Protestantism....as its name describes. No other reason other than the 33,000 sects of protestantism. Actually, OP is ignorant of biblical theory, so this is just a dumb question from some farm raised red neck that goes to some snake charming church that is told what to believe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23859706

Hey, that was a great slammer, way better than most! Btw what is bible theory, is this an unwitting confession of ignorance?
I'm with ya on protestantism, they recognize the tyranny of the church and escaped only to fall into the same trap, making up their own religion, in all it's confusion.

"“Believe me, woman, The hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will YOU people worship the Father. 2YOU worship what YOU do not know; we worship what we know......  Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him.  God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.” 25 The woman said to him: “I know that Messiah is coming, who is called Christ. Whenever that one arrives, he will declare all things to us openly.” 26 Jesus said to her: “I who am speaking to you am he.” Jo4:23
 Quoting: DGN


^^^^
This

Protestantism started off good because it was people breaking off from their whore mother.....the Catholic Church

But just like the bible prophesied ....the daughters have returned to their mother
Of course the daughters are Protestant denominations

find an unafillated non denominational church that follows the Word of God and they don't rely on spiritual boards or council to determine things....the tru church of God just obeys the Word of God(Bible) all of it

It's pretty simple....just do what the Bible says and your golden
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Excellent insight, here's your back up;
"And he carried me away in [the power of the] spirit into a wilderness. And I caught sight of a woman sitting upon a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and was adorned with gold and precious stone and pearls and had in her hand a golden cup that was full of disgusting things and the unclean things of her fornication. 5 And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.” 6 And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus." Rv17:3
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Navy buddies eh?
Air Force are even worse!
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Protestantism....as its name describes. No other reason other than the 33,000 sects of protestantism. Actually, OP is ignorant of biblical theory, so this is just a dumb question from some farm raised red neck that goes to some snake charming church that is told what to believe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23859706

Hey, that was a great slammer, way better than most! Btw what is bible theory, is this an unwitting confession of ignorance?
I'm with ya on protestantism, they recognize the tyranny of the church and escaped only to fall into the same trap, making up their own religion, in all it's confusion.

"“Believe me, woman, The hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will YOU people worship the Father. 2YOU worship what YOU do not know; we worship what we know......  Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him.  God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.” 25 The woman said to him: “I know that Messiah is coming, who is called Christ. Whenever that one arrives, he will declare all things to us openly.” 26 Jesus said to her: “I who am speaking to you am he.” Jo4:23
 Quoting: DGN


^^^^
This

Protestantism started off good because it was people breaking off from their whore mother.....the Catholic Church

But just like the bible prophesied ....the daughters have returned to their mother
Of course the daughters are Protestant denominations

find an unafillated non denominational church that follows the Word of God and they don't rely on spiritual boards or council to determine things....the tru church of God just obeys the Word of God(Bible) all of it

It's pretty simple....just do what the Bible says and your golden
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Amen! The counter-reformation brought protestants back to the harlot but there are still sects that do not follow this harlot.
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Navy buddies eh?
Air Force are even worse!
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I think your right because we were Navy jet mechanics. In spite of that my VW bus (Like Arlo Gutherie's.... Alice's Resturant) blew up in Eugene Organ because we didn't have enough combined sense to check the oil.
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You people man...

You all claim to be experts on Catholicism, how it's all evil and only your brand of Christianity is the right one. The Catholics are the only church with apostolic succession, they can trace their roots back to Christ's personal buddies. The rest of the Christian religions however, broke away from the Catholic church a looong time later, and don't have that claim to back up their legitimacy.

Catholics do not worship saints. When they pray to saints or Mary or whatever they are basically saying "Hey. I'm here on earth and you're up there in heaven, closer to God than I am, and you probably have his ear. Do you think you could do me a favor and pass my prayer along to God? Put in a good word on my behalf?" it's called INTERCESSION.

Catholics do not claim the pope is God, they do not worship the pope, they do not pray to the pope. They believe he is infallible in matters of the Church, but that's as far as it goes. He is a man same as everyone else in every other respect.

And no, I'm not a Catholic or any other sort of Christian, or any other religion for that matter, I'm an agnostic. I ain't no fan of organized religion, but all this Catholic bashing and flat out incorrect bullshit you all spout nonstop pisses me off. You all worship the same God, all believe in Jesus. You are all CHRISTIAN. Sheesh!

This is one aspect of religion I really dislike. If there is another religion that doesn't completely agree with yours, despite the fact they share 99% of your beliefs, they're wrong, and they're evil and they worship Satan! "My religion is right, yours is wrong, and you're going to hell so nyaaah!" Grow the fuck up. Your brand of bullshit ain't better than anyone else's.
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You people man...

You all claim to be experts on Catholicism, how it's all evil and only your brand of Christianity is the right one. The Catholics are the only church with apostolic succession, they can trace their roots back to Christ's personal buddies. The rest of the Christian religions however, broke away from the Catholic church a looong time later, and don't have that claim to back up their legitimacy.

Catholics do not worship saints. When they pray to saints or Mary or whatever they are basically saying "Hey. I'm here on earth and you're up there in heaven, closer to God than I am, and you probably have his ear. Do you think you could do me a favor and pass my prayer along to God? Put in a good word on my behalf?" it's called INTERCESSION.

Catholics do not claim the pope is God, they do not worship the pope, they do not pray to the pope. They believe he is infallible in matters of the Church, but that's as far as it goes. He is a man same as everyone else in every other respect.

And no, I'm not a Catholic or any other sort of Christian, or any other religion for that matter, I'm an agnostic. I ain't no fan of organized religion, but all this Catholic bashing and flat out incorrect bullshit you all spout nonstop pisses me off. You all worship the same God, all believe in Jesus. You are all CHRISTIAN. Sheesh!

This is one aspect of religion I really dislike. If there is another religion that doesn't completely agree with yours, despite the fact they share 99% of your beliefs, they're wrong, and they're evil and they worship Satan! "My religion is right, yours is wrong, and you're going to hell so nyaaah!" Grow the fuck up. Your brand of bullshit ain't better than anyone else's.
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty

"Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." 2Thes2:3

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Re: Which is Satan's second greatest decption since Eden? Catholicism or 'evolution'?
the book of Thessalonians was included in the western canon thanks to a Catholic Council called by a Pope.

No Protestants in the Council of Nicea. They all accepted Roman Primacy.

Why do protestants accept the Bible canon called by what they claim is an antichrist religion?
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Why do protestants accept the Bible canon called by what they claim is an antichrist religion?
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The belief that the Catholic church is an instrument of Satan isn't something that the mainstream of the protestant community accept, is it? I always figured it was more of a fringe belief held by really religious GLP types?
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Re: Which is Satan's second greatest decption since Eden? Catholicism or 'evolution'?
the book of Thessalonians was included in the western canon thanks to a Catholic Council called by a Pope.

No Protestants in the Council of Nicea. They all accepted Roman Primacy.

Why do protestants accept the Bible canon called by what they claim is an antichrist religion?
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" All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." 2Ti3:16
What makes you say protestants accept Jehovah's word?
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"Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." 2Thes2:3
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I'm afraid I don't really understand...

You're saying the popes try to appear to be above God, and in fact claim to be gods themselves?
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Why do protestants accept the Bible canon called by what they claim is an antichrist religion?
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The belief that the Catholic church is an instrument of Satan isn't something that the mainstream of the protestant community accept, is it? I always figured it was more of a fringe belief held by really religious GLP types?
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty

"Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." 2Thes2:3

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