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| DGN (OP) Revelation in real time User ID: 27870140 11/17/2012 02:39 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things? 6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." 2Thes2:3 I'm afraid I don't really understand... You're saying the popes try to appear to be above God, and in fact claim to be gods themselves? Yes. [link to www.dgnglobal.com] "The meek will inherit the earth, and indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace" Ps37:11 [link to www.watchtower.org] [link to www.jw-media.org] To review previous posts enter my user ID in the 'advanced search'. [link to wol.jw.org] |
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| Simple_Man User ID: 15977994 11/17/2012 03:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people man... Quoting: KonspiracyKitty You all claim to be experts on Catholicism, how it's all evil and only your brand of Christianity is the right one. The Catholics are the only church with apostolic succession, they can trace their roots back to Christ's personal buddies. The rest of the Christian religions however, broke away from the Catholic church a looong time later, and don't have that claim to back up their legitimacy. Catholics do not worship saints. When they pray to saints or Mary or whatever they are basically saying "Hey. I'm here on earth and you're up there in heaven, closer to God than I am, and you probably have his ear. Do you think you could do me a favor and pass my prayer along to God? Put in a good word on my behalf?" it's called INTERCESSION. Catholics do not claim the pope is God, they do not worship the pope, they do not pray to the pope. They believe he is infallible in matters of the Church, but that's as far as it goes. He is a man same as everyone else in every other respect. And no, I'm not a Catholic or any other sort of Christian, or any other religion for that matter, I'm an agnostic. I ain't no fan of organized religion, but all this Catholic bashing and flat out incorrect bullshit you all spout nonstop pisses me off. You all worship the same God, all believe in Jesus. You are all CHRISTIAN. Sheesh! This is one aspect of religion I really dislike. If there is another religion that doesn't completely agree with yours, despite the fact they share 99% of your beliefs, they're wrong, and they're evil and they worship Satan! "My religion is right, yours is wrong, and you're going to hell so nyaaah!" Grow the fuck up. Your brand of bullshit ain't better than anyone else's. I never said they were going to hell.....I believe that people that are unbelievers and people that worship God in ignorance will be judged according to their works (how they treated their fellow man) just like Jesus said in Matt 25 they would be at the great white throne judgement he also said that the deception would be so close at the end of times that it would decieve the elect if it was possible He also called the Pharisees and the Saducees ....snakes in the grass and they were religious the apostles also warned of heathens coming into the church preaching false doctrine So....there will be people who worship God thru Christianity correctly and there are people who think they are serving the Christian faith correct Y but they are deceived The Bible warns of wolves in sheeps clothing ....these are unbelievers disguised as believers There is nothing wrong with identifying these people or organizations /churches by the scriptures but .... God will judge whether they enter into his kingdom or thrown into the lake of fire Take Mother Teresa for example....even tho I believe she worshipped in the anti Christ system.....she truly loved her fellow man and she gave them food when they were hungry.....she nursed to sick when they where sick....she gave comfort to the uncomforted and in Matt 25 ...Jesus says that she will be granted eternal life I don't hate Catholics.......I hate the catholic system I don't hate sinners ......I love sinners ....I hate sin There will be people from all faiths ....denominations.....atheists ....agnostics ......that even tho they didn't serve God ...because they treated their fellow man with love......they are granted eternal life just for this The Bible says that Jesus and his Bride(people who served him correctly) will live inside the kingdom of God... but it also says that their will be people living outside the new Jerusalem that populate the new earth ....these are people that are granted eternal life because of their good works towards fellow humans.....the people that live inside the new Jerusalem are judged according to faith....these people served God by Faith and it pleases him .....they have Faith in the Blood of Christ and recieve eternal life But the people outside the new Jerusalem are people are granted eternal because of one things .....good works.....in other words .....loving their fellow man they asked Jesus what are the two greatest commandments and this was his reply love The Lord you God with all your heart ,mind and soul this is the commandment that his chosen people abide by ....the people who will live inside the new Jerusalem The second greatest commandment was this.....love thy neighbor as thy self ......this is the basis that all the other people will be judged by Jesus said that no man comes unto the Father unless the Son draws him first ......so .....a person can't even be a Christian unless God draws him first ....and he doesn't draw every human So God being. Just God ....gives the ones he doesn't draw a chance at eternal life too by saying this......love thy neighbor as thyself .....because God doesn't hold people accountable to that which he doesn't show someone..... God will not toss people into the lake of fire just because they aren't christians....because he never drew them unto himself in the first place ...so how could he hold that against them ....he doesn't .....to all the people that he doesn't draw to himself he still gives them an opportunity at eternal life in the new earth.....love thy human neighbors as thy self....just treat people with love this is seen with the thief on the cross.....he lived up sinful life but because he showed love towards Jesus he was granted eternal life There will be millions upon millions if not billions of people that werent christiansthat are granted eternal life and populate the new earth ....they just won't live in the NewJerusalem like the tru believers will....which is a special honor because they will live with Jesus Christ himself My God is a just and loving God Last Edited by Simple_Man on 11/17/2012 03:39 AM |
| Simple_Man User ID: 15977994 11/17/2012 03:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do protestants accept the Bible canon called by what they claim is an antichrist religion? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3767410 The belief that the Catholic church is an instrument of Satan isn't something that the mainstream of the protestant community accept, is it? I always figured it was more of a fringe belief held by really religious GLP types? It's not accted anymore but that's only been since the start of the 20th century .... All reformers and even people like issac newton believed that the Catholic Church was the anti Christ Whore mentioned in the book of revelations ...this can easily be verified thru a google search |
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| DGN (OP) Revelation in real time User ID: 27870140 11/17/2012 10:11 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're no lover of the Truth, so God is letting you believe the lie. The anti-Christ will attempt to abolish the most Holy Eucharist (a soul saving hint for you). After all this you still believe Catholicism is not demonic, but holy? Last Edited by DGN on 11/17/2012 10:11 AM [link to www.dgnglobal.com] "The meek will inherit the earth, and indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace" Ps37:11 [link to www.watchtower.org] [link to www.jw-media.org] To review previous posts enter my user ID in the 'advanced search'. [link to wol.jw.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1253914 11/17/2012 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people man... Quoting: KonspiracyKitty You all claim to be experts on Catholicism, how it's all evil and only your brand of Christianity is the right one. The Catholics are the only church with apostolic succession, they can trace their roots back to Christ's personal buddies. The rest of the Christian religions however, broke away from the Catholic church a looong time later, and don't have that claim to back up their legitimacy. Catholics do not worship saints. When they pray to saints or Mary or whatever they are basically saying "Hey. I'm here on earth and you're up there in heaven, closer to God than I am, and you probably have his ear. Do you think you could do me a favor and pass my prayer along to God? Put in a good word on my behalf?" it's called INTERCESSION. Catholics do not claim the pope is God, they do not worship the pope, they do not pray to the pope. They believe he is infallible in matters of the Church, but that's as far as it goes. He is a man same as everyone else in every other respect. And no, I'm not a Catholic or any other sort of Christian, or any other religion for that matter, I'm an agnostic. I ain't no fan of organized religion, but all this Catholic bashing and flat out incorrect bullshit you all spout nonstop pisses me off. You all worship the same God, all believe in Jesus. You are all CHRISTIAN. Sheesh! This is one aspect of religion I really dislike. If there is another religion that doesn't completely agree with yours, despite the fact they share 99% of your beliefs, they're wrong, and they're evil and they worship Satan! "My religion is right, yours is wrong, and you're going to hell so nyaaah!" Grow the fuck up. Your brand of bullshit ain't better than anyone else's. Thank you for being positive. |
| DGN (OP) Revelation in real time User ID: 27870140 11/17/2012 12:01 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people man... Quoting: KonspiracyKitty You all claim to be experts on Catholicism, how it's all evil and only your brand of Christianity is the right one. The Catholics are the only church with apostolic succession, they can trace their roots back to Christ's personal buddies. The rest of the Christian religions however, broke away from the Catholic church a looong time later, and don't have that claim to back up their legitimacy. Catholics do not worship saints. When they pray to saints or Mary or whatever they are basically saying "Hey. I'm here on earth and you're up there in heaven, closer to God than I am, and you probably have his ear. Do you think you could do me a favor and pass my prayer along to God? Put in a good word on my behalf?" it's called INTERCESSION. Catholics do not claim the pope is God, they do not worship the pope, they do not pray to the pope. They believe he is infallible in matters of the Church, but that's as far as it goes. He is a man same as everyone else in every other respect. And no, I'm not a Catholic or any other sort of Christian, or any other religion for that matter, I'm an agnostic. I ain't no fan of organized religion, but all this Catholic bashing and flat out incorrect bullshit you all spout nonstop pisses me off. You all worship the same God, all believe in Jesus. You are all CHRISTIAN. Sheesh! This is one aspect of religion I really dislike. If there is another religion that doesn't completely agree with yours, despite the fact they share 99% of your beliefs, they're wrong, and they're evil and they worship Satan! "My religion is right, yours is wrong, and you're going to hell so nyaaah!" Grow the fuck up. Your brand of bullshit ain't better than anyone else's. Thank you for being positive. Last Edited by DGN on 11/17/2012 12:02 PM [link to www.dgnglobal.com] "The meek will inherit the earth, and indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace" Ps37:11 [link to www.watchtower.org] [link to www.jw-media.org] To review previous posts enter my user ID in the 'advanced search'. [link to wol.jw.org] |
| jdb User ID: 2426721 11/17/2012 12:55 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That God is going to burn people in hell for eternity. This has kept people in bondage for millenia now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27377744 Ahh.... the ultimate blasphemy, good call; " I, even I, have said in my heart with regard to the sons of mankind that the [true] God is going to select them, that they may see that they themselves are beasts. 19 For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity. 20 All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust. 21 Who is there knowing the spirit of the sons of mankind, whether it is ascending upward; and the spirit of the beast, whether it is descending downward to the earth? 22 And I have seen that there is nothing better than that the man should rejoice in his works, for that is his portion; because who will bring him in to look on what is going to be after him?" Ecc3:18 Right, there is no hell-fire in the bible. Hell (English for the Greek Hades) is the common grave for all mankind where even Jesus was for three days until resurrestion. The 'lake of fire' means eternal destruction. "For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin." Ro6:7 Hi DGN! Hey DGN...you are misleading people by twisting Scripture here...for example, you chose to use Rom 6:7 to teach the idea that people don't go to hell for eternity...but Rom 6:7, when read and applied *in context* is teaching us that when one surrenders to The Most High God, Jesus Christ, their *former selves* are *dead to sin*! 2 Cor 5:17 correspondingly teaches us that we become *new* creatures! One must be very careful when using Scripture DGN! Any that would like to learn more about the watchtower and JW’s should check out this link: [link to www.evangelicaloutreach.org] folk's, please know that the watchtower *is* a bona fide cult that denies the Diety of Jesus Christ – salvation does NOT come through the watchtower God Is! We're not! Let's knock off all the nonsense! |
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| DGN (OP) Revelation in real time User ID: 27870140 11/17/2012 01:38 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: DGN Ahh.... the ultimate blasphemy, good call; " I, even I, have said in my heart with regard to the sons of mankind that the [true] God is going to select them, that they may see that they themselves are beasts. 19 For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity. 20 All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust. 21 Who is there knowing the spirit of the sons of mankind, whether it is ascending upward; and the spirit of the beast, whether it is descending downward to the earth? 22 And I have seen that there is nothing better than that the man should rejoice in his works, for that is his portion; because who will bring him in to look on what is going to be after him?" Ecc3:18 Right, there is no hell-fire in the bible. Hell (English for the Greek Hades) is the common grave for all mankind where even Jesus was for three days until resurrestion. The 'lake of fire' means eternal destruction. "For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin." Ro6:7 Hi DGN! Hey DGN...you are misleading people by twisting Scripture here...for example, you chose to use Rom 6:7 to teach the idea that people don't go to hell for eternity...but Rom 6:7, when read and applied *in context* is teaching us that when one surrenders to The Most High God, Jesus Christ, their *former selves* are *dead to sin*! 2 Cor 5:17 correspondingly teaches us that we become *new* creatures! One must be very careful when using Scripture DGN! Any that would like to learn more about the watchtower and JW’s should check out this link: [link to www.evangelicaloutreach.org] folk's, please know that the watchtower *is* a bona fide cult that denies the Diety of Jesus Christ – salvation does NOT come through the watchtower 1. "For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin." Ro6:7 God forgives sin when the price is paid by death, let rest in peace until they're resurrected to a second chance. 2. "God, who long ago spoke on many occasions and in many ways to our forefathers by means of the prophets, 2 has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things. 3 He is the reflection of [his] glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power; and after he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places. 4 So he has become better than the angels, to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs." He1:1 Last Edited by DGN on 11/17/2012 01:55 PM [link to www.dgnglobal.com] "The meek will inherit the earth, and indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace" Ps37:11 [link to www.watchtower.org] [link to www.jw-media.org] To review previous posts enter my user ID in the 'advanced search'. [link to wol.jw.org] |
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| eve incognito User ID: 27803051 11/17/2012 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if we're talkig Lucifer here, he didn't really lie in the garden, he was a bit patronizing, but in his defence, eve was like this anatomically correct cat. anatomically correct for sex that is, which apparently lucifer invented as a present to his gf. only when he arrived, he didn't find her -his amzing very unique gf - he found eve insted. he thought eve was charming, but very simple, but he was very glad to see her and determined to get his gf out of eve. soon he will find out that he will have to become a cat himslef, coz there is just no safe way to extract his gf from inside eve anymore. we do not know, mainly coz i am making up this story, was Lucifer disappointed when he saw eve, was she not pretty enough for him, or conservative enough, or in a hurry to tell him all the things she was forced to participate in, while she was stuck in the damn garden with wierdos, all alone and unprotected, that might make him very disappointe in her...etc...IT WAS NOT LYING IT WAS WAITING FOR THE RIGHT MOMENT- we can't possibly know this, coz this story never happened, i made it up all in my head, coz there's not way that the little kittie eve played with Lu's love snake in the garden of eden and then was left stuck with a baby, a baby she couldn't quite explain to her raging psycho dad, and she was banished to hell and didn't have time to groom herself or grow nicer teeth, or a cuter face, COZ SHE WAS BUSY SURVIVING, and not gettig broken in like a fucking pet... anyway, all this isn't important coz this is not really a realy story, no story is this preposterous, and surely Lucifer would be more understannd of how ugly his gf is, she was after all stuck inside a monkey, so this is how i can tell the story is all from my head, and thank goodnes sit be a strangly disappointing story if it was real. if we are talking about YHWH, all of his inventons are grand, he's the cleverest mother fucker, (literally), since the beging of time, literally. never underestimate him, always assume he has you right where he wants you and prepare for doom. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 754536 11/17/2012 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with them is no amount of cash will buy you tickets to heaven with them... they're sooo old school; "My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself, 2 so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment; 3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God. 6 For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment. 7 And for the upright ones he will treasure up practical wisdom; for those walking in integrity he is a shield, 8 by observing the paths of judgment, and he will guard the very way of his loyal ones. 9 In that case you will understand righteousness and judgment and uprightness, the entire course of what is good.' Pr2:1 Yeah, like an Angel in white. It's the watchtower society. |
| DGN (OP) Revelation in real time User ID: 27870140 11/17/2012 05:30 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with them is no amount of cash will buy you tickets to heaven with them... they're sooo old school; "My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself, 2 so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment; 3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God. 6 For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment. 7 And for the upright ones he will treasure up practical wisdom; for those walking in integrity he is a shield, 8 by observing the paths of judgment, and he will guard the very way of his loyal ones. 9 In that case you will understand righteousness and judgment and uprightness, the entire course of what is good.' Pr2:1 Yeah, like an Angel in white. It's the watchtower society. "And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” Mt28:19 [link to www.dgnglobal.com] "The meek will inherit the earth, and indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace" Ps37:11 [link to www.watchtower.org] [link to www.jw-media.org] To review previous posts enter my user ID in the 'advanced search'. [link to wol.jw.org] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 754536 11/17/2012 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with them is no amount of cash will buy you tickets to heaven with them... they're sooo old school; "My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself, 2 so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment; 3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God. 6 For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment. 7 And for the upright ones he will treasure up practical wisdom; for those walking in integrity he is a shield, 8 by observing the paths of judgment, and he will guard the very way of his loyal ones. 9 In that case you will understand righteousness and judgment and uprightness, the entire course of what is good.' Pr2:1 Yeah, like an Angel in white. It's the watchtower society. "And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” Mt28:19 Behold. It reveals itself even as I stated it would. |
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Chip![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 18591269 11/17/2012 06:21 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So Genisis chapter 6 is a lie? I think you drank your pastors koolaid. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
| DGN (OP) Revelation in real time User ID: 27870140 11/17/2012 06:59 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So Genisis chapter 6 is a lie? I think you drank your pastors koolaid. Those angels formed male human bodies; "Now it came about that when men started to grow in numbers on the surface of the ground and daughters were born to them, 2 then the sons of the [true] God began to notice the daughters of men, that they were good-looking; and they went taking wives for themselves, namely, all whom they chose. 3 After that Jehovah said: “My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years.” 4 The Nephilim proved to be in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of the [true] God continued to have relations with the daughters of men and they bore sons to them, they were the mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame. 5 Consequently Jehovah saw that the badness of man was abundant in the earth and every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time. 6 And Jehovah felt regrets that he had made men in the earth, and he felt hurt at his heart." Ge6:1 Last Edited by DGN on 11/17/2012 07:00 PM [link to www.dgnglobal.com] "The meek will inherit the earth, and indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace" Ps37:11 [link to www.watchtower.org] [link to www.jw-media.org] To review previous posts enter my user ID in the 'advanced search'. [link to wol.jw.org] |
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