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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27876137 11/17/2012 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FN Five-seveN USG, Dark Earth, Adjustable Sights, 20RD Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27876137 The FN Five-seveN® single-action autoloading pistol fires the low-recoil 5.7x28mm cartridge making it ideal for personal protection, target shooting or NRA Tactical Police Competition. It features a textured, ergonomic polymer frame with checkered panels for enhanced grip. Accurate out to about 100 years so yes, you could hunt with it. It is a pistol that fires a small rifle shell It is powerful, and nice and pointy, so not much is going to stop it. 20 rounds in each standard clip Light ammo so you can haul a shit load of it. Low recoil for easy target reaquisition after each shot fired. The only down fall. 1. cost at almost 1100 dollars, but what is your life worth. 2. ammo is hard to get, so you would need to stock up, and forget about scavenging for it later. |
| Risqman User ID: 27846381 11/17/2012 10:53 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1st and foremost: Get training and a safety course! Local law enforcement should have something like that or even a hunter training course would do actually. If you were near the Ohio/WV border area I could give you a training course since my dad was an instructor for the Baltimore City (Maryland) Police back in the late 1960's early 1970's and he drummed stuff in my head 24/7 and probably in my sleep too! Safety is most important because you can never be too SAFE when it comes to firearms. So many people kill loved ones when they hear a noise and get nervous and are quick to pull the trigger and it's just a family member getting a late night snack or sneaking in from a late date... so get that training BEFORE you buy anything! Some shooting places will have instructional courses where you & your mate can get to handle, shoot and get the experience. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27876137 11/17/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1st and foremost: Get training and a safety course! Quoting: Risqman Local law enforcement should have something like that or even a hunter training course would do actually. If you were near the Ohio/WV border area I could give you a training course since my dad was an instructor for the Baltimore City (Maryland) Police back in the late 1960's early 1970's and he drummed stuff in my head 24/7 and probably in my sleep too! Safety is most important because you can never be too SAFE when it comes to firearms. So many people kill loved ones when they hear a noise and get nervous and are quick to pull the trigger and it's just a family member getting a late night snack or sneaking in from a late date... so get that training BEFORE you buy anything! Some shooting places will have instructional courses where you & your mate can get to handle, shoot and get the experience. What this guy says, even if you don't want professional help. and once you get it, shoot it, shoot it, shoot it. So much can go wrong. ammo problems clip problems cycling problems accuracy issues You want to figure that out before your life depends on it. |
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| zenobiaphobia Dancing to the beat of a skinless drum User ID: 27968504 11/17/2012 11:00 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have trained with them for my whole life. The reality is... In a pinch, I have my favorites. Quoting: Travis Bickle Great advice. Guns are very personal, and you really have to develop your relationship with them. In a pinch I always reverted to my .22 target pistol (ancient Browning Challenger my grandfather customized). Laugh if you will, but I knew if I shot it I would hit exactly where I aimed, and it would never jam. Books relevant to our current situation will appear here at random: [link to www.gutenberg.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27455453 11/17/2012 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Buy a double action revolver. A .38 special. There are no safties to forget to click off, no slides to forget to rack. You pull the trigger and it goes bang, every time. No jams, no surprise discharges that take your kids' head off, far fewer accidents. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27855972 Revolvers are much easier, safer and more reliable for a beginner such as yourself. I agree a quality 6 shot .38 loaded hot with hollowpoints is more than enough to take any man down. better yet go with a .357 magnum 6 shot, you can also shoot .38 special out of a .357 magnum. If she decides magnum loads are to much to handle in a smaller frame revolver. verstale gun. Sure you have less bullets, but you can easily keep a couple speed loaders nearby or in the purse. semi autos are great. But don't skimp and go cheap. Glock is a great gun, rather dull..but they are reliable. I CCW a revolver now. I gave up on semiautos, to bulky. I have alot more firepower than nearly any semi auto, san's a 10mm auto, with buffalo bore .357 magnum rounds. Can drop a black bear if i wanted. |
| Kirk User ID: 25384388 11/17/2012 11:20 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For all you new gun people. This is the first three guns you should by in order. Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence 12 gauge pump. Excellent at home protection and hunting. Easy to shoot and hit what your shooting at with little to no training. Next is the ruger 10/22. There cheap and so is the ammo. You can stockpile thousands of rounds in a shoebox. Excellent home defense and hunting. Every American should own one. Then after your accustom to shooting you can pick up a nice handgun. There are hundreds to choose from in many sizes and shapes. I recommend 22 rimfire to learn what a rifle is about. That takes a lot of shooting so the rimfire wont cost so much you don't shoot. I would get a .308 for hunting and ammo should be around since it is such a popular cartridge. Transition to 308 from rimfire should be natural too. It doesn't kick much. A .243 kicks less. It is a 308 necked down to .243. Kills deer. I am just as happy with a rifle than any other weapon. If I am in pistol dueling range of a hostile I am too close. Worry is a misuse of the imagination. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27834799 11/17/2012 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a good shotgun will do the trick. Single shots range from $100 to $200 Double barrel not much more. If you want pump action lever action or semi auto youre lookin at 300+ A good beginners handgun imo is a 38 revolver, but you can jump right into glock territory with all these you tube tutorials out here, if youre willing to do your homework, if thats too much kick for you, a 22 As far as rifles are concerned, a mosin nagant m91/30 will run you about 100 bucks, its 3 screws to disassemble and its almost bullet proof as far as handling is concerned. A great first rifle if you know absolutely nothing about firearms.. Its a little cumbersome in length but its not that heavy and it will drop a mule at 200 yrds easy.. if you get surplus ammo youre gonna want to juice your barrel after use. |
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| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 27089841 11/17/2012 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...you first gun and last gun ,you'll ever need..under 700.00...no recoil,shoot with one hand even after you left it under water all day...need to bring an elephant down,no problem..dont forget the "special" 12 gauge rounds for it too.. Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 11/18/2012 12:01 AM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5788499 11/17/2012 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in general, the person behind the weapon is more important than the type of rifle, shotgun, pistol, samaria sword, etc.. having a good quality firearm and knowing how and when to use it is what counts. for home defense it's hard to beat a handgun that can be kept on the night stand for fast access and the small size makes it easier to handle indoors. the Springfield XDm 9mm would make a fine house or truck gun. for concealed carry a Kahr PM9 with night sights would be a solid choice. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27455453 11/17/2012 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a good shotgun will do the trick. Single shots range from $100 to $200 Double barrel not much more. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27834799 If you want pump action lever action or semi auto youre lookin at 300+ A good beginners handgun imo is a 38 revolver, but you can jump right into glock territory with all these you tube tutorials out here, if youre willing to do your homework, if thats too much kick for you, a 22 As far as rifles are concerned, a mosin nagant m91/30 will run you about 100 bucks, its 3 screws to disassemble and its almost bullet proof as far as handling is concerned. A great first rifle if you know absolutely nothing about firearms.. Its a little cumbersome in length but its not that heavy and it will drop a mule at 200 yrds easy.. if you get surplus ammo youre gonna want to juice your barrel after use. Mosins are nice and all, but most of the barrels are fouled out. Once you scrub the shit out of the bore, and oil it up they are accurate rifles for russian surplus. the 7.62x54mm cartridge is used in Russia still for large bear in custom mosins. It's stilla popular hunting rifle out there. |
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| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 27089841 11/17/2012 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in general, the person behind the weapon is more important than the type of rifle, shotgun, pistol, samaria sword, etc.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5788499 having a good quality firearm and knowing how and when to use it is what counts. for home defense it's hard to beat a handgun that can be kept on the night stand for fast access and the small size makes it easier to handle indoors. the Springfield XDm 9mm would make a fine house or truck gun. for concealed carry a Kahr PM9 with night sights would be a solid choice. Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 11/17/2012 11:58 PM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27834799 11/17/2012 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First calibers I ever shot were 22 and 38. 22 scared the crap out of me, I guess I was a wuss. 38, scared the crap out of me even more. It helps if you pull the hammer back before shooting, if its a revolver. *noob tip Cheers. target shooting is a lot of fun. I wish I could do it more often. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27455453 11/17/2012 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FN Five-seveN USG, Dark Earth, Adjustable Sights, 20RD Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27876137 The FN Five-seveN® single-action autoloading pistol fires the low-recoil 5.7x28mm cartridge making it ideal for personal protection, target shooting or NRA Tactical Police Competition. It features a textured, ergonomic polymer frame with checkered panels for enhanced grip. Accurate out to about 100 years so yes, you could hunt with it. It is a pistol that fires a small rifle shell It is powerful, and nice and pointy, so not much is going to stop it. 20 rounds in each standard clip Light ammo so you can haul a shit load of it. Low recoil for easy target reaquisition after each shot fired. The only down fall. 1. cost at almost 1100 dollars, but what is your life worth. 2. ammo is hard to get, so you would need to stock up, and forget about scavenging for it later. the five-secen is an amazing pistol. But the rounds will over penetrate. The 5.7x28 was originally designed to penetrate plate armor, and it can with the right round. Not the civilan non nato though. but in shit hit the fan, that thing holds a ton of bullets and is deadily. |
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| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 27089841 11/18/2012 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 gauge shotgun for him, 20 gage for the misses. Ammo is cheap and plentful and very few moving parts and easy to clean. Point and shoot . Quoting: smont 27935098 Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 11/18/2012 12:08 AM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 27089841 11/18/2012 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 gauge shotgun for him, 20 gage for the misses. Ammo is cheap and plentful and very few moving parts and easy to clean. Point and shoot . Quoting: smont 27935098 Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 11/18/2012 12:09 AM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
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| MHz User ID: 25505891 11/18/2012 12:10 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go for slingshots with lots of steel ball ammo (you want things that fly straight and the only moving part is the rubber and the pouch) SilentButDeadly stealth is free. Next choice for me would be blow-darts with snooze agents. So clue me in as to why the feuds in Hillbilly country used rock salt for the load, was that so the target lived or just an economy thing where metal was scarce? Last Edited by MHz on 11/18/2012 12:14 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27552087 11/18/2012 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 gauge shotgun for him, 20 gage for the misses. Ammo is cheap and plentful and very few moving parts and easy to clean. Point and shoot . Quoting: smont 27935098 Complete moran, don't listen to this guy. |
| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 27089841 11/18/2012 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Home defense and hunting...but you will also need a good medium caliber handgun, .22 rifle and a good shotgun of your choosing...I would go .223/5.56 and/or 7.62 x 39 due to cheap and easy to aquire ammo for your rifles. Quoting: 2cents ![]() How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 27089841 11/18/2012 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 gauge shotgun for him, 20 gage for the misses. Ammo is cheap and plentful and very few moving parts and easy to clean. Point and shoot . Quoting: smont 27935098 Complete moran, don't listen to this guy. Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 11/18/2012 12:13 AM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
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