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Who is the TOUGHEST MARTIAL-ARTS STAR? Norris, Li, Chan??

 
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Who is the TOUGHEST MARTIAL-ARTS STAR? Norris, Li, Chan??
I have heard so many different opinions on this question. So who is the toughest martial arts star? Some say Chuck Norris, beyond any doubt. Others say Bruce Lee, but then many think Bruce Lee was over-rated. What about Jackie Chan or Jet Li?

UPDATE: MENTIONED IN THIS THREAD...

Steven Seagal
JCVD
Wing Chun
Tony Ja
Cung Lee
Bolo Yeung
Scott Adkins
Frank Dux

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I would say Jet ATM. I have meet two of the youngest Grand Masters of this generation. Their hands seems to bend time.
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he is lucky he didnt break his neck
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Steve Seagull (seagal) akido grand master
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who knows. Anyone can get their ass beat in the right circumstance...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Steve Seagull (seagal) akido grand master
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At least until he meets a old judo guy.
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Cung Lee. He actually competes in the UFC and just KTFO former champ Rich Franklin.
It's all in the reflexes.
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rowan atkinson
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This.
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11/17/2012 10:05 AM
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no doubt jackie chan!
God i love that entity.
I love him and i hope he reads this.
(i'm not married)

He is the greatist artist ever in film for doing all the special effects himself.
He is the bravest human being on earth and he is my lord of inspiration.
hf
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Say what you want about 'Jackie Chan' but that guy was and probably still is a fucking badass.

Bruce Lee kicked him through a wall and he has been sewn together dozens of times and broken practically every bone and part of his body.

You know you're fucked when you try to fight Jackie Chan whilst he has a mop, a bucket some step ladders and a baby.
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no doubt jackie chan!
God i love that entity.
I love him and i hope he reads this.
(i'm not married)

He is the greatist artist ever in film for doing all the special effects himself.
He is the bravest human being on earth and he is my lord of inspiration.
hf
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you do know jackie actually has NO martial arts knowledge or training, right? he's beijing opera trained. an acrobat, not a martial artist
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jackie chan has fought through so many injuries

jet li is simply amazing: once upon a time in china and ouatic 2 are definitely some of the best martial arts films
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Cung Lee. He actually competes in the UFC and just KTFO former champ Rich Franklin.
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Cung Le is my fav fighter of recent. And the cool thing was he KO'd Franklin with a punch, and he's totally NOT known for that...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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jackie chan has fought through so many injuries

jet li is simply amazing: once upon a time in china and ouatic 2 are definitely some of the best martial arts films
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Yet I still like him best in Fearless. Shit made you think, son.
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Who is the TOUGHEST MARTIAL-ARTS STAR?
 Quoting: Person445


Van Damme!

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I read a couple years back that all the martial arts stars held the consensus that It was Seagel .I don't know,guy seems like a prick .
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you do know jackie actually has NO martial arts knowledge or training, right? he's beijing opera trained. an acrobat, not a martial artist
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You can see the Wing Chun in jackie chan, not to mention bits of boxing, Kung Fu and Hapkido... and he was taught a lot at the opera.

I really dispute he wasnt trained or had no knowledge, the circles and athletic prowess he showed suggests otherwise.

Was he a pure martial artist in the sense of Bruce Lee or Tony Ja, no, probably not.

But he is and was an excellent acrobat and gymnast.
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you do know jackie actually has NO martial arts knowledge or training, right? he's beijing opera trained. an acrobat, not a martial artist
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You can see the Wing Chun in jackie chan, not to mention bits of boxing, Kung Fu and Hapkido... and he was taught a lot at the opera.

I really dispute he wasnt trained or had no knowledge, the circles and athletic prowess he showed suggests otherwise.

Was he a pure martial artist in the sense of Bruce Lee or Tony Ja, no, probably not.

But he is and was an excellent acrobat and gymnast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6188491


Martial arts should be a combination of techniques. Bruce Lee was a dancer as well, and so was Van Damme...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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I read a couple years back that all the martial arts stars held the consensus that It was Seagel .I don't know,guy seems like a prick .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24679684


Akido is pretty badass for fighting multiple people.

Its often not first nature to step into people and use their balance and strength against them though.

As people in this thread have suggested, some of these MMA fighters are monsters...those guys are fucking tough motherfuckers.

Fact of the matter is everybody has good and bad days and everybody will lose a fight sometimes to a less experienced fighter.

Strength and speed are not always the deciding factors, balance, risk awareness and stamina are often just as important.

Strength and size always almost wins against inexperience though. But if you throw stamina, experience and speed into the mix it can get interesting.
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Seagal !! hahaha
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Tony Jaa is bad ass. Ong-bok was sweet.
That is all...
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Tony Jaa is bad ass. Ong-bok was sweet.
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My vote is Tony Jaa.
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They were all actors, so what you see is not the real deal.

I have a friend that is a 5th degree black belt who auditioned for a movie and sparred the Chuck Norris and he said it was intimidating and Norris was the National Karate champion for a while.

That said, I would have to say, between the two, Bruce Lee though for his speed.

In the movie the Big Boss if he would not have destroyed the real fight scene that happened on set, we would have seen the real Bruce Lee fight.

I would imagine there are several current MMA fighters that if matched in their day could give either a serious tune up.
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Martial arts should be a combination of techniques. Bruce Lee was a dancer as well, and so was Van Damme...
 Quoting: acegotflows


Exactly.

Guys who can run away and climb up 10ft walls and shit don't need to use strength, they can use agility to survive multiple attackers and isolate them 1 vs 1 if need be.

Sometimes the only way to fight is to cheat. If that involves running away and attrition so be it.

Who is the bigger fool the 6.8ft 260lb guy who trys to stay and fight 4 or 5 guys, or the 5.6ft monkey like guy who jumps fences and splits up his attackers to make the fight even?
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I would imagine there are several current MMA fighters that if matched in their day could give either a serious tune up.
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Indeed, Mike Tyson back in the day was horrifyingly scary as a boxer.
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Martial arts should be a combination of techniques. Bruce Lee was a dancer as well, and so was Van Damme...
 Quoting: acegotflows


Exactly.

Guys who can run away and climb up 10ft walls and shit don't need to use strength, they can use agility to survive multiple attackers and isolate them 1 vs 1 if need be.

Sometimes the only way to fight is to cheat. If that involves running away and attrition so be it.

Who is the bigger fool the 6.8ft 260lb guy who trys to stay and fight 4 or 5 guys, or the 5.6ft monkey like guy who jumps fences and splits up his attackers to make the fight even?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6188491


+1

You summed it up, in a nutshell.

REAL fighters will always tell you that if you can run away, then do it!
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Martial arts should be a combination of techniques. Bruce Lee was a dancer as well, and so was Van Damme...
 Quoting: acegotflows


Exactly.

Guys who can run away and climb up 10ft walls and shit don't need to use strength, they can use agility to survive multiple attackers and isolate them 1 vs 1 if need be.

Sometimes the only way to fight is to cheat. If that involves running away and attrition so be it.

Who is the bigger fool the 6.8ft 260lb guy who trys to stay and fight 4 or 5 guys, or the 5.6ft monkey like guy who jumps fences and splits up his attackers to make the fight even?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6188491


In this case, the monkey like guy


"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Re: Who is the TOUGHEST MARTIAL-ARTS STAR? Norris, Li, Chan??
Bolo Yeung is pretty bad ass as well. I always loved Jim Kelly because I felt I could relate for obvious reasons. MY favorite recorded kick at 2:39


"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"

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