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Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?

 
Myron Goldblatt
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Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
I am Jewish and do not understand the Second half of the book that the Christians call the Bible. I know the Jewish scripture, but do not see that Allah is satan. Granted, the Islamic Religion has caused a lot of discord in the world, but that does not equate to the god of Islam being the God of the nether world.

Can an Christian please explain this to me.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
Christians make Satan look like a good guy.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
Yes. Islam is the doctrine of the AntiChrist. The devil.
John 3:16 is Right
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
No, Koran speaks of God of Abraham.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
Allah, Yahweh, God....all the same.

It's man's misinterpretation of that loving energy (including the authors of the holy books) that has caused all this trouble.

One God. One brotherhood.

Simple concept but so hard for ego-driven folks to understand or apply.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
No, Koran speaks of God of Abraham.
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...and then changes the meaning of it to something else...
John 3:16 is Right
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
You sound pretty intelligent to me. What about the New Testament is so far beyond your comprehension? firstly
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
No, Koran speaks of God of Abraham.
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...and then changes the meaning of it to something else...
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Did you read it, really? I did. And you are wrong.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
Allah, Yahweh, God....all the same.

It's man's misinterpretation of that loving energy (including the authors of the holy books) that has caused all this trouble.

One God. One brotherhood.

Simple concept but so hard for ego-driven folks to understand or apply.
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applause2
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
Yes. Islam is the doctrine of the AntiChrist. The devil.
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No, it´s the talmudic Judaism.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
Have you read Torah or the JPS of 1913? The way Isaiah says it is to be read, line upon line?

This quote got me banned for 4 weeks before, but I hope it does not this time.

I SAMUEL 5:4,5

"And when they arose early on the morrow morning, behold, Dagon [was] fallen upon his face to the ground before the ark of the LORD; and the head of Dagon and both the palms of his hands [were] cut off upon the threshold; only [the stump of] Dagon was left to him.

Therefore neither the priests of Dagon, nor any that come into Dagon's house, tread on the threshold of Dagon in Ashdod unto this day."

Allah is a moon god not the Sun of Righteousness.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
You sound pretty intelligent to me. What about the New Testament is so far beyond your comprehension? firstly
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The New Testament effectively changes God from the one that the Jews worhsipped to a New Type of God who supposedly indwells the individual. I can not grasp this, because individuals who have supposedly been "born again" seem to be just as evil as they were before the were born again. Sometimes it takes a few weeks for the religious zeal to wear off, but people seldom do become transformed as Christian money grabbing preachers say they will.

In fact the only place where I have seen lasting life conversion is in prison converts who really put on a good show of piety and faith until they get out of prison. Then they usually revert to their criminal selves.

If you think I am wrong, show me where this conversion of self with the indwelling of the Spirit of God has changed people on a permanent basis. You might get me to be a believer.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
Satan is a guy named Steve.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
I am Jewish and do not understand the Second half of the book that the Christians call the Bible. I know the Jewish scripture, but do not see that Allah is satan. Granted, the Islamic Religion has caused a lot of discord in the world, but that does not equate to the god of Islam being the God of the nether world.

Can an Christian please explain this to me.
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Its about as true as THEIR GOD being Satan as well. WHY? Both religions...Christianity and Islam were based off the "Abrahamic Religions."

They're ONE IN THE SAME. Thats's the reason why in the Old Testament, Christians had a "jealous and ANGRY God." And, its also the reason why Islam would believe in "Jihad" and "Holy Wars."

Same God...different branch of the same religion. Most Christians just aren't very educated...that's all.

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watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
No, everyone from the Abrahamic faiths worships the same God.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
Satan is a guy named Steve.
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So Steve is the guy who is telling everybody to cut people's heads off? I have seen those beheadings with the dull knives that they use, and I am convinced that it is very painful.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
You sound pretty intelligent to me. What about the New Testament is so far beyond your comprehension? firstly
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The New Testament effectively changes God from the one that the Jews worhsipped to a New Type of God who supposedly indwells the individual. I can not grasp this, because individuals who have supposedly been "born again" seem to be just as evil as they were before the were born again. Sometimes it takes a few weeks for the religious zeal to wear off, but people seldom do become transformed as Christian money grabbing preachers say they will.

In fact the only place where I have seen lasting life conversion is in prison converts who really put on a good show of piety and faith until they get out of prison. Then they usually revert to their criminal selves.

If you think I am wrong, show me where this conversion of self with the indwelling of the Spirit of God has changed people on a permanent basis. You might get me to be a believer.
 Quoting: Myron Goldblatt 16674316


Not "changes God" but reveals him.
Study the how Jesus fufilled the festivals and every prophecy concerning the Messiah.

As for allah being satan.. Well the bible calss satan "the Father of Lies".
The quran describes allah as "the Greatest Deceiver".

As for the change... it's real, but your belief must be real also.

Good luck.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
You sound pretty intelligent to me. What about the New Testament is so far beyond your comprehension? firstly
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The New Testament effectively changes God from the one that the Jews worhsipped to a New Type of God who supposedly indwells the individual. I can not grasp this, because individuals who have supposedly been "born again" seem to be just as evil as they were before the were born again. Sometimes it takes a few weeks for the religious zeal to wear off, but people seldom do become transformed as Christian money grabbing preachers say they will.

In fact the only place where I have seen lasting life conversion is in prison converts who really put on a good show of piety and faith until they get out of prison. Then they usually revert to their criminal selves.

If you think I am wrong, show me where this conversion of self with the indwelling of the Spirit of God has changed people on a permanent basis. You might get me to be a believer.
 Quoting: Myron Goldblatt 16674316


Not "changes God" but reveals him.
Study the how Jesus fufilled the festivals and every prophecy concerning the Messiah.

As for allah being satan.. Well the bible calss satan "the Father of Lies".
The quran describes allah as "the Greatest Deceiver".

As for the change... it's real, but your belief must be real also.

Good luck.
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I will look into this conversion thing more closely. I find it amusing though that God did not reveal himself as this indwelling spirit during the 4000 years that the Jewish people worshipped him. Our Jewish faith has been around for a long time, and somehow we supposedly missed this indwelling spirit thingy?????? None of the prophets told us about the indwelling spirit of God. None of the judges or our kings did either. So why did the Christians get this revelation when God did not send it to the Jews?

Forgive me if I seem confused, but quite frankly, I am.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
Allah = El = Elohim. Simple as that, just a common word around ancient languages that indicates a lord, or god for that matter. Indeed, they're the same, as Christianity, Islam and Judaism are all Abrahamic religions. Easy as that. Depicting 'Allah' as a different God, a devil even, was simply a ploy to make the crusades more favourable. It hung.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
Allah = El = Elohim. Simple as that, just a common word around ancient languages that indicates a lord, or god for that matter. Indeed, they're the same, as Christianity, Islam and Judaism are all Abrahamic religions. Easy as that. Depicting 'Allah' as a different God, a devil even, was simply a ploy to make the crusades more favourable. It hung.
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Exactly.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
You sound pretty intelligent to me. What about the New Testament is so far beyond your comprehension? firstly
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The New Testament effectively changes God from the one that the Jews worhsipped to a New Type of God who supposedly indwells the individual. I can not grasp this, because individuals who have supposedly been "born again" seem to be just as evil as they were before the were born again. Sometimes it takes a few weeks for the religious zeal to wear off, but people seldom do become transformed as Christian money grabbing preachers say they will.

In fact the only place where I have seen lasting life conversion is in prison converts who really put on a good show of piety and faith until they get out of prison. Then they usually revert to their criminal selves.

If you think I am wrong, show me where this conversion of self with the indwelling of the Spirit of God has changed people on a permanent basis. You might get me to be a believer.
 Quoting: Myron Goldblatt 16674316


Not "changes God" but reveals him.
Study the how Jesus fufilled the festivals and every prophecy concerning the Messiah.

As for allah being satan.. Well the bible calss satan "the Father of Lies".
The quran describes allah as "the Greatest Deceiver".

As for the change... it's real, but your belief must be real also.

Good luck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


I will look into this conversion thing more closely. I find it amusing though that God did not reveal himself as this indwelling spirit during the 4000 years that the Jewish people worshipped him. Our Jewish faith has been around for a long time, and somehow we supposedly missed this indwelling spirit thingy?????? None of the prophets told us about the indwelling spirit of God. None of the judges or our kings did either. So why did the Christians get this revelation when God did not send it to the Jews?

Forgive me if I seem confused, but quite frankly, I am.
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GTY.org
All your questions are answered by in my opinion, one of the best Christian preachers around.
His sermons are written or recorded.
Good luck. God has a special place for his Jewish Christians.
Basically, take God's wager... ask Him to reveal Himself and he will.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
well, as all gods, and devils, demons, angels, cherubim, nephalim, demi-gods, elves and fairies are mythology, you can pretty much say that about ALL of them. fantasy figures are indeed equivalent. bullshit is bullshit, no matter whose yard the manure pile resides in.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
I am Jewish and do not understand the Second half of the book that the Christians call the Bible. I know the Jewish scripture, but do not see that Allah is satan. Granted, the Islamic Religion has caused a lot of discord in the world, but that does not equate to the god of Islam being the God of the nether world.

Can an Christian please explain this to me.
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No not Satan
-Makaveli
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
well, as all gods, and devils, demons, angels, cherubim, nephalim, demi-gods, elves and fairies are mythology, you can pretty much say that about ALL of them. fantasy figures are indeed equivalent. bullshit is bullshit, no matter whose yard the manure pile resides in.
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Even the Cherubim?
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You sound pretty intelligent to me. What about the New Testament is so far beyond your comprehension? firstly
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The New Testament effectively changes God from the one that the Jews worhsipped to a New Type of God who supposedly indwells the individual. I can not grasp this, because individuals who have supposedly been "born again" seem to be just as evil as they were before the were born again. Sometimes it takes a few weeks for the religious zeal to wear off, but people seldom do become transformed as Christian money grabbing preachers say they will.

In fact the only place where I have seen lasting life conversion is in prison converts who really put on a good show of piety and faith until they get out of prison. Then they usually revert to their criminal selves.

If you think I am wrong, show me where this conversion of self with the indwelling of the Spirit of God has changed people on a permanent basis. You might get me to be a believer.
 Quoting: Myron Goldblatt 16674316


I can only speak for myself, but I accepted Christ as the Messiah 10 months ago and I can say from experience that he has impacted my life for the better. I'm not perfect but I can deal with my sins for the first time in my life with any sort of effectiveness. You're right about corruption in the church, but it isn't all bad. There are many wolves in sheeps clothing however. Before the 2nd coming of Christ it is said that the Jewish people will mourn for Jesus like the loss of their son, and then he will come.
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What Kind of Jew are You?
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
well, as all gods, and devils, demons, angels, cherubim, nephalim, demi-gods, elves and fairies are mythology, you can pretty much say that about ALL of them. fantasy figures are indeed equivalent. bullshit is bullshit, no matter whose yard the manure pile resides in.
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Even the Cherubim?
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even the sugar plum fairy, and tinkerbell. sorry to be the one to break it to you
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
You sound pretty intelligent to me. What about the New Testament is so far beyond your comprehension? firstly
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The New Testament effectively changes God from the one that the Jews worhsipped to a New Type of God who supposedly indwells the individual. I can not grasp this, because individuals who have supposedly been "born again" seem to be just as evil as they were before the were born again. Sometimes it takes a few weeks for the religious zeal to wear off, but people seldom do become transformed as Christian money grabbing preachers say they will.

In fact the only place where I have seen lasting life conversion is in prison converts who really put on a good show of piety and faith until they get out of prison. Then they usually revert to their criminal selves.

If you think I am wrong, show me where this conversion of self with the indwelling of the Spirit of God has changed people on a permanent basis. You might get me to be a believer.
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I think you're wrong about the NT changing God to one that indwells in the individual. I dont know Bible believing Christians who think that way. I definitely think of the God of Abraham as a difinitive being. However I believe the Holy Spirit does affect the church that believes in Jesus as their savior.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
I am Jewish and do not understand the Second half of the book that the Christians call the Bible. I know the Jewish scripture, but do not see that Allah is satan. Granted, the Islamic Religion has caused a lot of discord in the world, but that does not equate to the god of Islam being the God of the nether world.

Can an Christian please explain this to me.
 Quoting: Myron Goldblatt 16674316


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its all a concept of the mind bro...

allah is a way to the eternal light..

jesus is the messiah

muhamaed the messenger

christ resurrects because buddha knew what would happen thousands of years in the future and made sure muhamed got the messages across to the children of christ.

feel free to email me more if you want man.

satan isn't going to harm you.
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Re: Christians tell me that Allah is Satan. Is that true?
What do you think of Isaiah 53 OP? I take this as a Messianic prophecy of Jesus Christ's first coming to earth.

1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for th

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